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Return to Board Index. Caravanistan A Silk Road travel forum Skip to content. Quick links. Outdoor adventures All things concerning hiking, skiing, horse riding, cycling, Forum rules Looking for a hiking buddy or to sell your outdoor gear? Please post your request in the hiking buddy travel sharing forums, not here. Thank you! First post. Hello fellow travellers. I am planning on doing the 3 day Shymbulak to Big Almaty hike near almaty. The only issue is that I cannot find any GPX You can also look here: you can download the app also in English or German incl. Early Season Hiking by bshearing » Thu Mar 09, pm. Hi all! Hoping to travel through Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan and Uzbekistan in the last three months of April. I'm hoping I can get some For Uzbekistan, you can go hiking near Nurota. There are gorges you can connect with some low passes over steep ridges. It's possible to do Hello all My partner and I will be selling our 3 fantastic horses plus equipment saddles, pack saddle, saddle bags etc - everything thing needed Hello everyone, does anyone have expirience with gear rental in peak touristic month of August? My trip to Kyrgistan will be bit short and I would I have gotten an update that the cartographic institute in Bishkek is closed. Any news regarding that is welcome. Otherwise, any news regarding good You can get your maps from this place located in Bishkek: They also sell navigation systems. I bought some maps from here just 1 week ago. According to this website September Yes, you can consider September. Snowfall is not impossible. Southern Kyrgyzstan has a warmer and more stable climate. Portable solar panel Bishkek, Kyrgyzstan - where can I buy? Hello all Anyone know where I can buy a portable solar panel in Bishkek, Kyrgyzstan? If not - has anyone ordered such equipment into the country? 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On my next trip to Kyrgyzstan in August , I am motivated to trek the Ala Kul route, but I have doubts because I have read that it is dangerous The only river crossing is a wide gentle stream. You will probably need to take off your boots and roll up your pants to your knees. All real river Carrying a knife by IronChris » Wed Jan 25, am. Hi guys, I wonder if carrying a knife is a problem in Russia, Kazakhstan, Usbekistan and this region. I am talking from a normal, fix blade of about Hi, I'm planning to ride a bicycle in solo from Beijing to Paris, I will pass by Mongolia and Russia, that would be my first time. Do you think there There is a plenty of information on Internet on how to avoid these predators while in the wild. Most of them will not attack you unless they are Does anyone know any airlines who charge reasonably for I also travelled several times on Turkish Airlines and would recommend them as bike-friendly. Good place for cycling and hiking early in the season? I'm planning a cycling trip in the Kyrgystan Tian Shan in July, but since I'll have many months off next year, I'm wondering if there's somewhere I I can't say it's great for cycling, because basically, there is one decent road, and only a couple of rough side roads, but once I cycled in early I'm about to enter Kaz over the next couple of weeks, and will be working my way down to the Pamir Highway. Looking to pick up a stove relatively Hi, I'm looking for a camping air mattress either in Kochkor or Naryn. Anyone experience with that? A yoga mattress is also fine, its only for a Hi Everyone, rather than camping with a tent I like to bivvy , and so have several questions: 1. What temps can I expect at this time of the year I think any of the Sportmasters in Astana should have cheap pegs. Or buy online from Decathlon Kaz and have them posted to your hotel. 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The Long Riders' Guild. Their 1, kilometre 1, miles trip ended in Eastern Kazakhstan, at the village of Tapalovka, close to Lepsy. It would be our pleasure if we can ourselves contribute to the Guild by helping other horse travelers. Finding Your Horses Criteria of choice:. Being two persons, our goal is to buy 3 horses: 2 riding horses and 1 pack-horse. Our preference lies towards geldings and, given the choice, we try to avoid buying mares or stallions. We wish to acquire horses that have been bred and raised in high altitudes, making them more adequate and tougher for the mountain areas and high passes where our itinerary will take us. We especially look for pacers trotters. This special trot is much more comfortable for the riders, allows the horses to cover longer distances without tiring and is particularly good for a pack-horse to limit the risks of friction injuries with the packs. Buying the horses:. It is possible to buy horses on the animal bazaars usually held once a week in the major cities. The best horses are sold after the grazing season though, in autumn. Most of the horses there are tall, crossed with part draft horses and Russian breeds and are destined for meat for the Kazakh market. At-Bashy bazaar southern Kyrgyzstan, close to the city of Naryn : smaller market than the one in Tokmok but horses there are bred and raised in the surrounding mountains. They are mostly of the Kyrgyz breed: smaller between 1,40 m and 1,50 meters tall , more used and adapted to high altitudes, very hardy and used to cover long distances. Papers and formalities:. It is easier to go to the animal market with a local to help with the negotiations, the translation and the payment. Horses are bought on the spot and paid for in cash. It is therefore important to plan for the withdrawal of enough cash. The price of the horses is established based on the amount of meat on a horse: the taller and the fatter the horse is, the more expensive it is. Bought directly to from an indvidual. Planning Your Route Tools used:. We followed the advice of the locals to find our way through the technical paths or complicated passes but also to find the areas where the grass will be sufficient in quantity and quality to feed the 3 horses and where there would be plenty of water. Maps : topographical maps bought in Bishkek for Kyrgyzstan. We did not find any maps for Kazakhstan however. View ranger : used as a navigation application from topographical maps, available for most of the countries worldwide and even comes sometimes with registered planned itineraries. Soviet military maps : used as a navigation application from topographical maps. This is the app we mostly used in Kazakhstan. The paths, roads and villages are out of date, but the topographical markers are extremely precise. In Kyrgyzstan :. We therefore followed a general direction towards the east from our starting point in Tash Rabat. We followed the high-altitude valleys where there was enough grass and water for the horses, we stayed high in the mountains average of m altitude. We avoided cities or areas that were too populated or even agricultural plains for safety reasons and to make sure that we had enough grass resources for the 3 horses. Most of the lower valleys grass is saved for hay cutting in summer so it is a bit more complicated to let the horses graze in these areas. In Kazakhstan :. The country is larger and drier; we started by following the mountain range heading straight west, and then we headed north, towards our goal which was the Altai region. We remained in the mountains in the east of the country, close to the Chinese border. In this area, we faced quite a large number of documentary or identity checks because the border area is a strategic point. Even though time- and patience-consuming, these checks always ended well. Our papers were all in orders. The grass and water resources remained sufficient to feed the 3 horses. We only needed once to use a truck to cover km of particularly deserted land. We decided to stay mainly at high altitudes. It was very cold at night, with temperatures below 0 and some snow and hail storms. The days were milder but with many thunderstorms in June and early July. When we reached the bottom of the valleys, on the outskirts of the big lake of Issyk-Kul, the climate became more temperate, warm in the day and mild at night. Kazakhstan — August to October:. Overall, dry climate in this area of Central Asia and rain is not a big deal. In August we were at lower altitudes than in Kyrgyzstan, it was hot to very hot during the day and the nights were mild. It was more difficult to find water as we moved away from the mountains and glaciers. The climate was generally very dry with a less abundant grass resource. In September the days remained mild, especially in the valleys. We had our first few days of snow in the mountains and the nights were cold. In October it was mild to cool during the day. However, it was very cold at night with frost as soon as the sun went down at around 7 p. That is not the case in Kazakhstan though. For example, when it is easy to replace missing ropes, horse shoes and such in small villages or directly from the shepherds in Kyrgyzstan, it was impossible in Kazakhstan. It is possible to find people to sew, adjust, or mend the tack in the bazaars once in the country. Horse tack:. Bought on spot:. Bought in France:. Blacksmith tools: hammer, shoe puller, a flat knife and a big hunting knife that was, after all, the most effective with the hammer to cut the extra. Human gear and equipment Baggage : Trail Backpack Large waterproof compression pouches, waterproof bags and Ziploc. Clothing per person :. Warm hat, cap, scarf, gloves, sunglasses and hood. Down jacket, fleece jacket and equestrian rain cape extended protection to saddlebags. Camping equipment : Sleeping bag, silk sheet, survival blanket and camping mattress. Tent, string, tarp, camping lamp and headlamp. Wood stove, set cooking, 1 2-litre pan, 1 multifunction knife, 1 tea ball. Health: Marseille soap and antibacterial soap. Toothbrush and toothpaste. Nail scissors, tweezers, ear and hair brush. Microfibre towel, moon cup, toilet paper. Essential oils, almond oil, shea butter, tiger balm, spirulina, sunscreen and after-sun lotion. Pharmacy Kit and Emergency Suture Kit. Electronic Equipment :. Solar charger and external battery. Garmin GPS. Accessories and official papers. Notebook, pen, pack of cards and dictionary Lighter and sewing kit Digit-code padlock, belt to hide the cash, international payment card Tear gas bomb Passport, photo ID, international vaccination certificate, insurance Topographical maps, binoculars, compass. Horse Care. This is the most worrisome problem for someone who is not used to shoeing himself. Even if these horses from the mountains are not usually shod when they stay on the pasture and even if they have overall very good feet and hard hoofs, the many stones and the very dry terrain makes the horse shoes almost mandatory. However, managing to find good quality horse shoes, nails and people to actually shoe them properly with the appropriate way of cutting horn prior to the shoeing is quite complicated. To cut the horn, we managed to do it ourselves with a good knife and a hammer. Then we had to either find a shepherd to shoe them again or do it ourselves. We would always carry with us a spare set of horse shoes and nails for each of the three horses. The horses were rubbed at the withers only towards the end of our trip, because of a saddle not properly placed on their back once. One day of inattention was enough to create wounds that were extremely hard to heal. We treated them with shea butter and very effective anti-bedsore plasters for humans. We then cut wool felt into the shape of their withers to limit friction until the wounds closed. One of our horses also had an abscess on his foot. We made him a clay plaster to make it ripen and then cleaned it with Marseille soap. In addition, we injected him with intramuscular penicillin for five days. Penicillin can be found in any small village store. Two of the three horses had an episode of very strong fever and were down for a few days, probably due to piroplasmosis. We gave them penicillin for five days intramuscularly. This was hard on them and since it was towards October and the grass, because of the snow and frost, had lost most of its nutritional value, they did not completely recover from the disease. This is also what sped up the end of our trip mid-October: the horses needed rest. The bivouacs along the rivers often cause the horses to graze in areas more likely to be infested with intestinal parasites: we have de-wormed the horses twice with de-worming that we had bought from local veterinarians. It did them very good each time. Learn from the Locals. To tie the horses:. Tie the hind knots to the forelegs of the horses at night with flat ropes so as not to hurt them. Use strong pegs and about 15 metres of rope. First five metres should be of solid rope in case the horses walk on it and then ten metres of softer rope. To prevent colic and hypothermia:. Never let the horses drink during the day when we are crossing rivers: the water of the glaciers is too cold and may make them sick because of the temperature difference between it and their body during the effort of the day. Always let them cool off first. At lunch break: we left the horses saddled so that they did not catch cold; we only loosened the girths. We removed the bridles to let them eat but did not make them drink until the very end of the break time, just before leaving. At the end of the day: we tied the horses without being able to eat, saddled but with the girth loosened so they could cool off for at least 2 hours. Only after that period of time, we removed the saddles and the bridles that hindered them and let them eat. We only watered at the very last moment of the day, just before night and first thing in the morning. To feed them:. Optimizing the grass intake: we moved the tethering picket as often as possible so that the horses ate as much good and fresh grass as possible. We moved them first thing in the morning at 5 AM so they would wake up and go back to eating until the bivouac is undone and we would be ready to leave. We tethered them only in places where they could not wrap themselves around rocks, bushes or tree trunks; this would limit their time to graze during the night and they need every precious hour. Or else, we would wake up in the night to untangle them. To find the equipment for the horses and get to know the country better:. Tips from locals to know where to find the material, which type is most suitable for local morphologies and uses. Our horses did run away from us quite a few times, especially at the beginning when the caravan was not yet welded; the locals who know their territory were very helpful in helping us to find them back. Locals also introduced us to their way of living and traditions. This introduction helped us to better communicate with shepherds and mingle with them along our route. Food Horses:. We have always managed to feed our horses only on grass. It grows in abundance in Kyrgyzstan, a little less in Kazakhstan. So, we made our riding days shorter in Kazakhstan to allow them more time to graze. No problem to find water in Kyrgyzstan with the many rivers that flow from the glaciers, a little drier in Kazakhstan at some places. We always managed to find some water once a day. We had the opportunity to restock regularly in the markets or in small shops in the villages. Our pack horse allowed us to have an autonomy of 15 days - 3 weeks 2 pack bags and rations for 2 women. Our food was mainly based on dry foods rice, lentils, polenta, pasta that we could cook with wood fire, seeds and dried fruits that we could nibble during the day squash seeds, figs, dried apricots, almonds, etc. We could occasionally buy fresh bread, meat, kumis and eggs from shepherds in yurts. Most of the time and thanks to their amazing sense of hospitality that was offered to us. No problem to drink water from rivers with our filter bottles or without, no need to use water disinfection tablets. Safety In general, we had no problem travelling while being only 2 single women in Kyrgyzstan and then with a larger group up to 5 people with a man in Kazakhstan. In Kyrgyzstan:. A herd of mares near the yurts was often the reassuring sign of the presence of a woman inside. We did not have any specific issue to communicate only with our knowledge of Kyrgyz and Russian. In Kazakhstan:. Unlike Kyrgyzstan, the shepherds go up in the mountains without their wives and families during summer. We did not have any particular problem as the caravan was bigger at that time and 1 male team-mate had joined us. We set up a preventive fire to keep bears away. We did not encounter any problem with wild animals, only with a few shepherd dogs. Finding Your Horses. Planning Your Route.

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