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Should we put our children in chastity belts? That's what one South African manufacturer would prefer, especially when children as young as six are talking about having sex, "in the bush, in the bathroom, under the bed". They say, according to research done in Zambia, that "sex feels nice".
Is such research "disgusting" as some in Kenya have told Rob Pattman of Britain's Open University research team? Or is it a legitimate expression of one of the things parents fear most: the sexuality of their children? He says adults impose a "wished innocence on children" and this carries serious consequences when children are abused or face HIV.
The Sex and Secrecy conference held at the University of the Witwatersrand this week heard papers on issues ranging from bizarre chastity belts for children tuned into vehicle hijack tracker systems, to hate crimes against lesbians, the use of music videos to spur discussion with adolescents about masculine roles to myths about rich men that have sex with poor women and then pay them "coffin money" - because Aids has been passed on.
The Fourth Conference of the International Association for the Study of Sexuality, Culture and Society saw more than 300 delegates from around the world present more than 150 papers over three crammed days. It became clear from a number of papers that when issues around sexuality are repressed, particularly open discussion between parents and children - deviancy, risk-taking behaviour and sexual violence is more likely to emerge and even predominate.
"Protecting children" by refusing to share sexual information, or that about illness, rarely did that and was often code to protect parents. Henry Baringye, a Ugandan paediatrician, argued for the right of children to be told they were HIV-positive.
"There is a conspiracy among people to 'spare them' , but actually they are not sparing the children, they are sparing the adults." He spoke of a mother who told her child that her bad skin was due to smallpox. "The child asked me if she had smallpox, I told her it had been eradicated.
"Then she said, the children at school don't want to sit next to me, they say I have Aids, but my mother says I have smallpox, why does she lie to me?" He says the reasons are most often because the parents don't want their own HIV status to be known, or they fear the child will be stigmatised or physically or psychologically traumatised, but, "it hurts them more to be lied to".
One HIV-positive 15-year-old was put onto anti-retroviral medication without being told why because her parents wanted the truth kept a secret. She lived with her father, and when her mother died of Aids she was not told. She became distressed because letters to her mother went unanswered, her schoolwork deteriorated and she began rejecting her medication.
It was a year before she was told of the death of her mother, but two years later, her father still refuses to allow her to be told of her HIV status, "her drug treatment is failing and there is now a concern that she is involved in risky sexual behaviour".
Violence against women was a major theme. Katarina Jungar and Elina Oinas of the Abo Akademi University in Finland argued that many feminist writers portrayed women in developing nations as "passive victims... the sad women of the South versus the powerful women of the North". Delegates argued that much sexual violence was "not about normative masculinity but about complicity" - among men and women in not acting to expose or prevent violence.
Lucy Steinitz, a Namibian delegate, expressed concern that while considerable attention was given to men attacking women, too little attention was given to more prevalent violence - men harming other men. And as an example, Sasha Gear of the Centre for the Study of Violence and Reconciliation presented a fascinating paper on sexuality in men's prisons.
She said that new prison inmates were often forced into gangs. A member of the Big Five gang, known as the doctor, would often determine gender roles by listening to a man's pulse. A certain beat would mean that a man would be classified - usually for the rest of his incarceration, "as Free Moscow, or woman" but if "your blood is full, you are a soldier".
Aggression was seen as manliness. A typical path for being "made a woman" is to accept acts of kindness. "Women" or "wyfies" are allocated "husbands" who provide materially for them and have the right to expect sex on request.
Gear's research provides a fascinating glimpse into male attitudes towards themselves and women. "Men" are aggressive providers, "women" are submissive. Accepting gifts from a "man" is often seen as giving him the right to sex, consensual or not. And perceived weakness such as poverty or fear, or attempting to be equal to the "men", is punished with rape.
These conclusions appear to be borne out by the work in the lowveld of the University of Pretoria's Isak Niehaus, who reported that women were often raped after accepting food or gifts and then refusing sex.
Considerable time was spent on trying to figure out masculinity.
Claudia Ford, a Wits academic who adopted a five-month-old baby who had been raped, and is the mother of three adult sons, asked: "How can we socialise young black men to be non-violent when private acts of aggression appeared to be the only outlet their fathers had for expressing their anger against legalised social denial and dehumanisation?
How can we socialise young white men to be non-violent when public acts of aggression were sanctioned the myth of their fathers' superiority of gender and race?" She believes that parents have a powerful role to play in bringing up children who reject violence.
At the closing session of the conference organisers complained that none of the papers dealt with joyful sex or the pleasures of heterosexual sex. But then again, the conference theme, Sex and Secrecy, suggested sex that carried shame or taboos.
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Some people believe that boys and men preform better in sports if they've practiced celibacy for the week prior to an athletic event. My nephews both play Little League baseball and they say that the star players on their team are kept in chastity before a really important game. They say that the belts go on about a week before and are only removed for hygiene once a day and under adult supervision. After the game the belts are, of course, removed and put away until needed again. Since all Little League players wear hard cups as part of their required uniforms it's impossible to say who is, or is not, in a device.
After a lot of questions the boys said that they'd like to give it a try just once to see if it made any difference in their performance. My brother (their dad) purchased two chastity belts. But when the boys saw the belts and the time came to be put in them they got cold feet and balked at the idea. I think a big part of it was the fear that if they submitted to chastity for sports they might be forced into it for other reasons. In any case their chastity belts have never been used. Does anyone have similar stories and if so how were the boys handled? Do you have any advice on how to get the boys to take the plunge and submit to wearing a chastity belt?
Hi - just came across this - live in UK and am at University - have a g/f a long distance away and wanted to make sure I stayed faithful to her - I felt I couldn't trust myself so decided on a chastity device - first had one called a Holy Trainer but now wear a Queens Keep (look up on internet) I'm very disciplined about it and mostly wear it as it is very discreet below clothes. found that my sexual energy became enormously re-directed into study or sports. Play soccer for the University and my mates see my focus and killer instinct becuase of the re-directed sexual energy. Know guys who wear one to make sure not to lose their virginity. I think that young guys have to want to do this and need to have the benefits fully explained to them - I wouldn't go back now.
I'm a girl age 13 and still a virgin. I have a bf also 13. We want to date but my dad says we can't unless Max, my bf, is under chastity. Dad isn't talking about full time, he means chastity only for date nights. Max hasn't quite made up his mind about that yet but I hope he'll do it. I think it would be romantic to date a boy who's wearing a chastity device.
I'm a boy and I am 14. When my girlfriend found out that my parents installed on my chastity belt, she was very happy and said that it was a very nice and romantic to be friends with the boy, and she admires me because a lot of patience is required for this. She is very excited by the realization that I can not remove the sexual tension. She was pleased that I stand with dignity the test.
I'm 16 and am about to be fitted with one of these things. I don't really know much about them, how do they work? I know they are designed to stop you $%!@ing but do they actually stop erections? If not if I get one is it uncomfortable or painful? I think that I will have to wear it all the time inclding at night so what happens when I get hard during the night and have wet dreams, will the pain wake me up? I don't thinkit's fair that I have to have this but my parents say I spend far too much time $%!@ing and thinking about sex and is distracting me from schoolwork and other stuff so they say it's for my own good.
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that's one of the reasons why i like this forum so much, the different opinions on the different topics give me strength and inspiration π
Esteban Next to that, what I find quite funny on this forum is that we can very quickly go from a refined conversation (phylosophical or intellectual) to a very trashy conversation (with a strong sexual connotation)
As long as it is consensual,I think too chastity can be used,and maybe even useful.I read a story,even if it was used not as it is intended,but still not as a fetish or a game,about a couple who used to both wear chastity devices during a part of the reviewing of the lessons for the partiels and during the exams to concentrate in studies,and not be distracted.Not sure at all it was true,but it is a good example of an useful and consensual use of a chastity belt.
And I agree with you,many people tend to think men would always like some things,and women would always like other things.Many people would feel strange a man who like to spend time decorating the house,or a woman who like to repair cars...
I think too.Often people would think he's gay,and,if a woman like masculine things,they would think she's lesbian.
i am very feminine of my character, yet i am bi . i think our behavior says nothing about our sexual orientation π
I think too,but many people tend to link these,even if it is not related at all.And they're pretty sure they're right,so it is difficult to make them understand they're wrong,even with good arguments and examples.
Vanessa
I am conventional girl! Maybe more interested in History an Geography than average girl, but pretty conventional! π
i think there are too many prejudices today. a man who is gay can still be male and a woman who is lesbian can still be female π
I agree with you,but a lot of people don't understand it.
Angelina it is definitely something i would buy for my daughter, but nothing my father (or many other parents here) would accept
It can be useful,sometimes,yes.But my parents won't accept it instead of the chastity belt,too.
Angelina but when we are married I will think about it again π
Would Camryn like it?And do you consider wearing one yourself,when married?
Ines In the field of chastity belt, there is only a worse thing: use a belt as punishment.
Forced permannet wearing is worse,in my opinion.
Ines I think your approach even not totally wrong, in fact some girls here started to wear the belt as protection, I think the conceptualism of the girls as victims is not the main motivation under modern belting of the girls.
I think, that in most cases, parents think in "preservation" before than in "protection". They, in general, are not in panic about rapes, more well they are fear of girls bad steps before marrying.
Thanks to your post you have highlighted a subtle distinction but of capital importance.
Indeed, according to you, the main motivation of parents to wear the belt to girls would be to preserve their virginity rather than protect them against possible rape.
So if we push the argument a little further, it means that these same parents would feel less affected (or less distressed) if their daughter would lose her virginity against her acceptation (in case of rape) than if their daughter had lost his virginity by making love to a boy with all his heart.
And here I must admit that I am deeply revolted that some parents can think that way.
Indeed, in such a case, it is clear that it is the ego (or pride) of parents who prevails over the emotional security of their daughter.
It simply shows a deep selfishness on their part and I will never be convinced that such parents can act out of sincere love for their daughter.
In fact, it is not their daughter that protects but their own pride (their own vainness) and it shocked me deeply.
I consider that the primary mission of a parent is to protect his daughter from any external physical and psychological danger without affecting her consent or sexual fulfillment.
For my part that parents who sincerely love their daughters must put their physical and emotional safety above the honor or reputation of their daughter.
I think a good family man claiming sincerely loved his daughter, should invest in this kind of equipment:
I honestly think it's a great invention to protect the girl against potential abusers while leaving her full of sexual freedom.
If for example the girl is a bit drunk during an alcoholic evening she can not be sexually abused against her will.
it is definitely something i would buy for my daughter, but nothing my father (or many other parents here) would accept π
Esteban if their daughter would lose her virginity against her acceptation
You can just ignore this case, most of girls lose their virginity with full consent.
Angelina
You can also buy one for your girlfriend.
I would call it "smart emotional protection"
Esteban
Esteban, thankfully, losses virginity in Western countries is very much likely that be raped.
And I think that most of parents here think that maidenhood is a good for the own girl.
Even wrong, parents are not so selfish!
hmm I think my father will unfortunately not be enough π
but when we are married I will think about it again π
Ines
Sorry Ines but I consider that the parents are selfish when they impose chastity on their daughter and that she does not adhere to this value.
In this case, the parents are selfish because they prefer to sacrifice the happiness of their daughter by making her unhappy rather than questioning an archaic and sexist principle of another age.
For me chastity imposed will always be regarded as an unacceptable intrusion of parents into the intimate life of their daughter.
In this case I say that it is a selfishness because a child can not be considered as a material property of his parents.
The child is being endowed with reason and he has to make his own life choices.
If parents impose lifes choices on their child, that is equals mental cloning.
Nothing good can be said about this. But the principles in which is based, I think it is not selfish.
They think they are doing the right.
Anyway, they are wrong.
In conclusion would you agree with this ?
To propose a course of action to one's child that one thinks is the best for him is an acceptable thing.
(we stay in education)
To impose this course of action against his intimate will is unacceptable (we are not in the field of education but in forced training)
Esteban
Of course.
Force someone to wear a belt is a huge mistake. In the field of chastity belt, there is only a worse thing: use a belt as punishment.
but also only in the field of the chastity belt π there are far worse punishments π
Ines In the field of chastity belt, there is only a worse thing: use a belt as punishment.
Vanessa Forced permannent wearing is worse, in my opinion.
I noticed that you disagreed about the chastity belt used as punishment. For one is much better (Vanessa) while for the other is worse than anything (Ines)
But in reality you do not have the same approach at all and your disagreement is not real.
It is obvious that in Vanessa's mind the use of the chastity belt as punishment is largely preferable for her because the duration of her sentence was necessarily for a limited period of time (several weeks)
Once the punishment time had passed, Vanessa know that she would regain the freedom to masturbate at some point once the punishment was over.
Once released from her belt, she still had the opportunity to avoid futur punishment (and therefore the wearing of the belt) by behaving in an exemplary manner or avoiding getting caught. She had a partial control of her masturbations and orgasms (to note that the masturbation that is fundamental for HER but not for YOU)
And in Vanessa's mind since the belt is no longer used as a punishment it is obvious that the belt can only be used to force her to be a sexually irreproachable woman until the day of her marriage.
And use in the belt in this design is will impeach Vanessa of masturbating for an indefinite period of which she does not will know the end.
Vanessa feels then in the same state as a prisoner sentenced to life while under the punishment's regim Vanessa knows his time of penance.
It is obvious that in INES's mind the fact of using the chastity belt as a punishment against elle is absolutely detestable since it would mean that his parents would force him to wear the belt in order to PUNIR. (which they have never done until today)
No wonder that Ines would be deeply revolted against this type of approach because it would have no say. His consent, his opinion, would no longer be respected by his parents. And in his mind There would be breach of the contract of trust between her and her parents.
In INES 'mind, using the chastity belt as a punishment would make him lose control of his consent and trust in his parents.
So to summarize YOU HAVE EVERY BOTH REASONS in your views but because you dont have the same starting approach according to your main expectations.
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