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Anonymous wrote: I was at the meet and applaud Hamlet for stepping up to host, especially as the last ASR meet was in 2019. I do not belong to Hamlet.
My observations:
The volunteer marshals in the “one event viewing” bleacher area did their best trying to keep traffic moving in one direction and having people move all the way down to fill in as best as possible. Parents didn’t make their lives easy by not listening, arguing, not moving down, and trying to enter via the exit. All of this was clearly communicated as well by the marshals.
The one perm bleacher area was once again taken by Division 1 teams (namely Chesterbrook, Tuckahoe and Overlee), and there were more swimmers than parents in the bleachers. If seating was an issue, maybe OP can ask the division 1 teams to back off in future years?
Yes, it was unfortunate it rained the night prior and there was mud. The volunteers did put down a walkway near the bleachers and Coach area, the mud just overpowered it after awhile.
Someone commented on the team rep area only allowing two team reps, and that is normal for NVSL meets as most pools have 1-2 reps. If your pool chose to have more than two, well then you will need to figure that out and share time instead of arguing.
Finally, I heard the livestream was great. Great camera angles and just a short delay to the actual meet.
All the all star meets always suck. There is always little seating. None of this is new. The kids always have to walk far because no pools have room in the regular pool areas for all the teams that come to All Stars. Again - this is not new.
No one wanted to host either all star meet this year. I say a huge thank you to the Hamlet for stepping up.
Nvsl is mostly run by volunteers, so not sure what sort of extra support you expect them to provide. Why don’t you volunteer your time to help them run the All Star Relay meet next year rather than complaining on this site?
Anonymous wrote: Lol! So only the teans with a chance of winning the meet should be allowed to occupy the prime real estate?
Anonymous wrote: I was there. Div 2 team with a lot of relays participating. I had 3 kids swimming in 6 events. I applaud Hamlet for stepping up. All of their volunteers did the best they could, especially the marshals running the bleachers. The drop-off area was great. It was brutally hot, but there was plenty of space for teams to hang out. The clerk of course was at least in the shade.
If parents would follow the rules and get out when their kids aren't swimming, it would have made everything better. The bleachers were tight but there was enough room for each event if people would move. Maybe they give out tickets for each event and you need one to be in the spectator area. Otherwise, you hang out outside the pool.
What about using the Saint James? Or another indoor facility? Or just get rid of parents all together. Parents just make everything worse. If you want to see the meet, you volunteer. Otherwise, stay home and watch the livestream. I heard it was good.
Anonymous wrote: Lol! So only the teans with a chance of winning the meet should be allowed to occupy the prime real estate?
Anonymous wrote: Lol! So only the teans with a chance of winning the meet should be allowed to occupy the prime real estate?
Anonymous wrote: Hamlet volunteered because guess what - NO OTHER POOL STEPPED UP.
So if they had not had it - it would have been virtual again. The league is still volunteers and a lot of the senior leadership left and never trained replacements. Did not even occur to them.
I actually like your idea of an entrance fee - $50 a team with part of the money going for port a potties/bleachers/water stations, etc. And part of it going to the host team to make money - because concession sales will be great, but added money is better.
Anonymous wrote: I was there. Div 2 team with a lot of relays participating. I had 3 kids swimming in 6 events. I applaud Hamlet for stepping up. All of their volunteers did the best they could, especially the marshals running the bleachers. The drop-off area was great. It was brutally hot, but there was plenty of space for teams to hang out. The clerk of course was at least in the shade.
If parents would follow the rules and get out when their kids aren't swimming, it would have made everything better. The bleachers were tight but there was enough room for each event if people would move. Maybe they give out tickets for each event and you need one to be in the spectator area. Otherwise, you hang out outside the pool.
What about using the Saint James? Or another indoor facility? Or just get rid of parents all together. Parents just make everything worse. If you want to see the meet, you volunteer. Otherwise, stay home and watch the livestream. I heard it was good.
Anonymous wrote: Hamlet volunteered because guess what - NO OTHER POOL STEPPED UP.
So if they had not had it - it would have been virtual again. The league is still volunteers and a lot of the senior leadership left and never trained replacements. Did not even occur to them.
I actually like your idea of an entrance fee - $50 a team with part of the money going for port a potties/bleachers/water stations, etc. And part of it going to the host team to make money - because concession sales will be great, but added money is better.
Anonymous wrote: Hamlet volunteered because guess what - NO OTHER POOL STEPPED UP.
So if they had not had it - it would have been virtual again. The league is still volunteers and a lot of the senior leadership left and never trained replacements. Did not even occur to them.
I actually like your idea of an entrance fee - $50 a team with part of the money going for port a potties/bleachers/water stations, etc. And part of it going to the host team to make money - because concession sales will be great, but added money is better.
If it’s about $, make spectators pay $5 each.
Anonymous wrote: Hamlet volunteered because guess what - NO OTHER POOL STEPPED UP.
So if they had not had it - it would have been virtual again. The league is still volunteers and a lot of the senior leadership left and never trained replacements. Did not even occur to them.
I actually like your idea of an entrance fee - $50 a team with part of the money going for port a potties/bleachers/water stations, etc. And part of it going to the host team to make money - because concession sales will be great, but added money is better.
Anonymous wrote: I was there. Div 2 team with a lot of relays participating. I had 3 kids swimming in 6 events. I applaud Hamlet for stepping up. All of their volunteers did the best they could, especially the marshals running the bleachers. The drop-off area was great. It was brutally hot, but there was plenty of space for teams to hang out. The clerk of course was at least in the shade.
If parents would follow the rules and get out when their kids aren't swimming, it would have made everything better. The bleachers were tight but there was enough room for each event if people would move. Maybe they give out tickets for each event and you need one to be in the spectator area. Otherwise, you hang out outside the pool.
What about using the Saint James? Or another indoor facility? Or just get rid of parents all together. Parents just make everything worse. If you want to see the meet, you volunteer. Otherwise, stay home and watch the livestream. I heard it was good.
Anonymous wrote: I know that that All-Star Relays is a logistical nightmare, but I've been to a lot of them, and this one was by far the worst run meet I've ever been to, bar none. You'd think one of the largest and most prominent leagues in the country would put its best foot forward for one of its two signature meets, but this year's ASR was a complete disaster.
No one thought about simple logistics. They brought in three measly sets of bleachers for a meet that was going to feature almost a thousand swimmers. There were 3 port-a-potties for the swimmer area when there are hundreds of swimmers. I counted - at one point the line was 40 deep. Because the number of port-a-lets was so inadequate, the whole site reeked of port-a-potty half-an-hour into the meet. The walk to clerk was perilous for kids, and there had been no forethought given to putting down any sort of mat to protect kids from stumbling over tree roots, rocks, etc.
The Hamlet personnel were rude, abrasive and obviously never wanted to host the meet. I am not sure I blame them. There has got to be a better way to run this meet. Charge every team a $100 relay entry fee and use the money to rent bleachers and to entice a pool that actually wants to host as opposed to the outright hostility of the Hamlet folks.
The NVSL should be utterly ashamed tonight. What a travesty....
Anonymous wrote: I was there. Div 2 team with a lot of relays participating. I had 3 kids swimming in 6 events. I applaud Hamlet for stepping up. All of their volunteers did the best they could, especially the marshals running the bleachers. The drop-off area was great. It was brutally hot, but there was plenty of space for teams to hang out. The clerk of course was at least in the shade.
If parents would follow the rules and get out when their kids aren't swimming, it would have made everything better. The bleachers were tight but there was enough room for each event if people would move. Maybe they give out tickets for each event and you need one to be in the spectator area. Otherwise, you hang out outside the pool.
What about using the Saint James? Or another indoor facility? Or just get rid of parents all together. Parents just make everything worse. If you want to see the meet, you volunteer. Otherwise, stay home and watch the livestream. I heard it was good.
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