Exclusive interview - Part 2 - Lawsuit against Christian Drosten. Answers to criticism & new developments

Exclusive interview - Part 2 - Lawsuit against Christian Drosten. Answers to criticism & new developments

transcribed & translated by Corona Investigative


Good afternoon. My name is Markus Langemann. I am a publicist. This video is produced in response to the interview with the lawyer Dr. Reiner Fuellmich on September 17, 2020. The interview was published shortly afterwards, first on the website "clubderklarenworte.de" and in close succession on YouTube. The following interview is a pure audio production. The reason for this is that we can produce it quickly without much effort and make it available to you quickly. This is, I think, in your and our interest. If you do not know the 60 minute interview with Mr. Fuellmich yet, I strongly recommend that you listen to it first. (read here) The link to the interview is shown and you can find this link also under this video. I have always invited you to critically accompany my work, as long as the criticism is not hidden behind pseudonyms, but is presented with an open visor without personal insults, it is welcome. We work with clear names as well as the interview partners. I think it is part of a cultivated way of dealing with criticism that you publish it with your name and stand behind it. Not every criticism we can answer, but almost every criticism is seen and considered. If you do not share our view, you are welcome to leave the club of clear words and do not have to listen to us. This is actually quite simple. All the more I am happy if they stick with us. I would like to quote your critical questions, at least some of them, today and forward them directly to Dr. Fuellmich, who is on the line again. 


Markus Langemann: Dr. Fuellmich, apart from the often generally expressed skepticism about the plan for a class action lawsuit, whether it can be successful. Perhaps a very short interim result. How is the progress? Is there any news at all and how do you estimate your chances of success?

Dr. Reiner Fuellmich: I stick with it and now more than ever I assume that we have very good chances of success with our lawsuit project. I cannot or do not want to explain the strategy we are pursuing. I already said it the other day. We are in daily contact with our colleagues in Canada and the USA. Things are coming to a head. In my opinion, the most important thing for the prospects of success is a statement I received today from the former chief science officer at Pfizer. The heavyweight confirms everything I said in my last interview, namely that PCR tests cannot determine whether someone is identified or not. 

Markus Langemann: Now maybe you should tell us who Pfizer is.

Dr. Reiner Fuellmich: Pfizer is one of the largest pharmaceutical companies in the world. Dr. Mike Yeadon, the former chief science officer, has apparently been pointing out for the past week that we have been the victims of completely falsified data in connection with this alleged "Corona Killer Virus".


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Markus Langemann: A recurring point of criticism of some people, who commented under our discussion, was analogous: You would operate a business with potentially suit-interested, and let those people, who want to join the class action suit, first pay 800 €.

Dr. Reiner Fuellmich: We do not want to persuade anyone to join us. Anyone can normally hire a lawyer to enforce their claims for damages themselves. On average, we have an amount in dispute, i.e. damages claimed of 50 000 €. If you would hire a normal lawyer and go to court, you would have a cost risk of about 15,000 € for the first instance and possibly another 15,000 € for a second instance. We are moving in a comparatively high range. We proceed differently. We have only charged 800 € plus value added tax for those interested in taking legal action. That is not the money we pocket as a fee. That is what it says on the website, but that is not true, because I assume that this flat rate will be used for expert opinions and for paying our colleagues in the USA and Canada who have to build up the infrastructure, etc. So far not a single lawyer who works here has ever received any of this money, but we know that we will need it. We assume that we will only earn money when we are successful. That means the agreed 10 percent success fee. As I said, nobody got anything and I certainly did not.  

Markus Langemann: One of the questions that has been asked again and again and which I would like to pass on to you is: Are you close to any party or is there any hidden financing of your law firm? 

Dr. Reiner Fuellmich: No. The law firm does not receive any financing from anyone at all. My law firm also conducts completely different business. We are the ones who are involved in the Deutsche Bank proceedings for mass litigation fraud. That is how we earn our money. We have filed a lawsuit against VW and have a big bribery lawsuit against Kühn & Nagel. The Corona case is handled by my colleagues in Berlin, who are my contact persons there. In addition, there are other colleagues, some of whom cannot go public because they would lose their jobs in the pharmaceutical industry or in their large law firms. This is all done there and I am the one who pulls the strings as far as the appearance in the USA or Canada is concerned, because I am licensed in California and have a very good network there. But we will also file German lawsuits, because we have received orders in the meantime and what was reported on TV at the "Tagesschau" (Tagesschau is a German news portal close to the government) is not correct and one of several mistakes. 

Markus Langemann: I would like to get straight to the topic of "Tagesschau". Which party book do you have in your pocket?

Dr. Reiner Fuellmich: None. In former times, in the times of Helmut Schmidt, I voted for the SPD because this man impressed me. Later, I voted for the Greens and also the Red-Green and for some years now I don't vote at all, because I can't see anyone representing my interests anywhere. 

Markus Langemann: We have picked out a few critical comments on behalf of many thousands of comments and will now read them out. I make an exception, because some commentators hide themselves behind a name abbreviation. For example, W.S. writes: "The most important question, in relation to the last interview, was not asked or is clear anyway," he writes in brackets, "because with Prof. Drosten and Mr. Wieler, in relation to the damage, there is not much to get. Who is liable for the damage? Here the whole world will try to make amends to Germany. That will be the financial end of Germany." This or something like this is how many of the thousands of comments or questions came up.

Dr. Reiner Fuellmich: That is not right. First of all, we ourselves will not file this lawsuit, but I will help my colleagues in the USA and Canada to file the lawsuit for American and Canadian companies and individual plaintiffs as we imagine it to be against Drosten, Wieler and WHO. This is the way that Germans or anyone else who has been harmed by the PCR tests can participate on the basis of this lawsuit. The lawsuit will be filed by other people. Of course, this will not be the financial end of Germany, but Germany will have to compensate the plaintiffs, especially the German plaintiffs in the end. I had already explained. If this does not happen these enterprises go broken and thus it becomes in any case more expensive by the loss of tax receipts and loss of jobs and the associated increased transfer payments for unemployment pay and the reconstruction of the enterprises. This is very simple mathematics. The bulk of it will be directed against the WHO anyway. Let's see if it stops there. As I said before, this is a political signal. This signal is directed not only against Germany, but also against the Americans and all politicians in the countries that have announced lockdowns. 

Markus Langemann: A certain Kirsten Stüben expressed the following criticism to the last interview and I quote now simply her comment. She writes: "I don't know if I can bear to listen to this unspeakable video until the end. Right at the beginning is a gross mistake. Supposedly there would be no pandemic if the RT-PCR test for the SARS-CoV-2 virus did not exist". Then she continues, which is of course nonsense, "the Chinese doctors in Wuhan were able to diagnose the disease after a short time by imaging techniques alone, because it leaves absolutely typical damage to lung tissue. The test is then only a confirmation, the already very reliable suspected diagnosis. Furthermore, this test only reacts to genetic material of this particular virus. It reacts neither to other human corona viruses nor to human influenza viruses. Not everything that is circulated in the media is true." You may not be a medical doctor, but you are deeply involved in the subject. Do you dare to answer?

Dr. Reiner Fuellmich: Yes. Of course you have to be careful, as a non-medical person, to move too much into the medical abyss. As the former chief judge of the English supreme court said, each of us is able to use our head for more than just wearing a hat. This means that each one of us is able to listen to the opinion of the experts and try to form our own opinion. This is something that any judge without medical expertise who has to decide such matters must do, as I said the other day. So I did what others would do, such as Mr. Sieber from the Green Party and I looked at all the different opinions there are. The last and most recent opinion is that of chief science officer Dr Mike Yeadon, who used to work for Pfizer and he also pointed out that probably all positive tests are wrong. You have to think about what is an infection first. Mrs. Stüben writes about the disease. Nobody has ever doubted, at least not me, that the coronavirus can cause diseases with serious courses. But this also happens with any normal flu. But we do not talk about that at all. We are only talking about the question if the PCR test can detect an infection if it is positive. The answer is NO. It cannot. You always need a physical reaction to detect an infection. There are no asymptomatic infections, according to the Swiss professor Dr. Beda M. Stadler. Even the one woman in China who came to Germany and who was originally believed to have no symptoms, was recognized in the end as having symptoms. So what is an infection anyway? The infection that we mean is the one that causes the virus to spread in the body and then is able to infect someone else in the first place. Infection in this sense, according to Mike Yeadon, is a hot infection, which differs from the cold infection in that others can be infected by it. As long as this is not the case, we are not dealing with an infection, and the aforementioned Professor Dr. Stadler and Dr. Mike Yeadon say that no PCR test can do this. You need more than just the PCR test. 

Markus Langemann: Finally in the critical view I would like to come completely gladly again with them on tagesschau.de to speak. A Mr. Wulf Rohwedder of Tagesschau.de referred in an on-line article of 22.09.20 to your class action suit and commented in counterstatement and critical analysis your statements. I would like to try to quote some of them and ask you to comment on them. Among other things, he speaks in the article of the US Supreme Court, which limits the possibility of legal action. He quotes a certain Professor Hess, who is very critical of the strategy of the lawyers from his circle, and I quote from the online article: "That such a lawsuit in the USA against German companies and institutions is problematic with regard to German claims for damages is also the opinion of Burkhard Hess, Professor at the Max Planck Institute Luxembourg for International, European and Regulatory Procedural Law" and then his quote: "This should not be easy", he told tagesschau.de. According to a landmark decision of the U.S. Supreme Court, in principle no class actions by foreign aggrieved parties for foreign offenses in the U.S. may be accepted. Besides the court decided that also other US Federal Courts are not responsible for such complaints." What is your position on this? 

Dr. Reiner Fuellmich: Yes, it is quite clear from this answer that Mr. Rohwedder has tried by all possible means to discredit what we do. But unfortunately it did not work. Neither of the two professors got the right information and the second one had to admit, I don't want to say "had" to admit, but I assume that information was withheld from them. Nevertheless he explained that they could sue. It is not at all about foreign victims filing a class action lawsuit in the USA for foreign crimes. I had just said that. Americans or Canadians will file a class action lawsuit because these PCR tests, as advertised by Drosten, Wieler and the WHO as lobbyists for big tech and pharmaceuticals, cannot do what was claimed, but have caused massive damage. I am doing this with these defendants, the WHO is not a German citizen, so that it is possible for Germans and others worldwide to join in when this class action suit is admitted. That is the way it works. So I will not file a lawsuit for a German in the USA or Canada. That would be stupid. Professor Hess would be right. As I said, I do not intend to do that. 

Markus Langemann: Finally, can you say something about the current status? Where do you stand acutely with the entire procedure now? 

Dr. Reiner Fuellmich: We are also in the process of creating this possibility for the entire German-speaking region, i.e. for Germany, Austria and Switzerland, as well as worldwide, to join our project, the assertion of claims for damages due to these PCR test based lockdowns. We train our colleagues in this respect. To make it clear once again. As I have said from the beginning, I will do this at no cost. There will be other colleagues in France, Italy, England, Namibia, everywhere and everywhere else doing exactly the same thing I am doing here. But I have nothing to do with that, except to explain to the colleagues firstly, how does it work with the PCR tests, to give a short hint again, the New York Times ¹ has also been very critical and called the common practice with more than 30 cycles dubious. As far as I know the Drosten test is set to 40 or 45 cycles. So, we will create the possibility to make this PCR problem understandable as a central point to all colleagues who are travelling all over the world, up to Bangladesh or elsewhere. We will explain with a video in German and English language, which we will also translate into all other languages, how this works, so that they, after they have, so to speak, combined the contingents in their own countries, can easily get into the admission of the class action there. 

Markus Langemann: Dr. Fuellmich, thank you for making yourself available for critical questions. If we stay in touch and follow your work, I hope that this will also be possible in the future to simply allow the critical questions to be answered. In this sense, many thanks for the renewed conversation.

Dr. Reiner Fuellmich: I thank you for this clarifying opportunity.



If you are interested in joining the class action lawsuit, you should find out if it is already possible in your country and if not what could be done.


The best thing is to write an email to Dr. Reiner Fuellmich: info@fuellmich.com



References:

(1) Your Coronavirus Test Is Positive. Maybe It Shouldn’t Be.



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