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Search titles only. Search Advanced search…. Four Wheel Drive. Camper And Trailer. Overland Journal. Log in Register. New posts. What's new New posts Latest activity. Search forums. Members Current visitors. Log in. JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly. You should upgrade or use an alternative browser. Buying Gen1 4dr Montero in - am I sane or not? Thread starter drabina Start date Aug 13, A little intro from a new member here before I get to the topic. I currently drive a Chevy Colorado Z that I bought new. It is an OK truck size-wise but has some shortcomings that drive me crazy. I do a lot of camping with kids, drive up to the ski resorts in the winter and need to run up some fire roads when we go fishing. I do need a 4x4 with some decent cargo space. No serious offroading done or planned. So with that said, I have came up with a plan to sell my Colorado and buy two other cars. The car would be used mostly in the wintertime when 4wd is needed and for weekend trips throughout a year. The rest of the time, I would spend driving my second car that would be more of a daily driver thinking of buying the Challenger again. I am fairly handy with simple mechanical things brakes, alternator, spark plugs, etc but for a more involved jobs head gasket, transmission work, etc , I would have to take the car to a mechanic have a good one - read: not cheap but solid. There would be no mods planned to the car they way you guys mod yours. Is my plan sane or I need somebody to hit me hard and bring me down to earth? Am I going to get into a constant maintenance nightmare and frequent visits to a service shop or with some initial investment I can expect decent trouble-free ride? How about parts availability? I do have some experience with old cars but they were older Chevy's with V8 engines so parts were plenty and cheap. Look-wise the 1st gen is what I am after. The 2nd gen is OK on the inside but outside gets a bit too roundy. I also like some early Pathfinders and Troopers but I think 1st gen Montero is the classic boxy look that make it stand apart from all the other SUVs on the road. Of course I know that finding a decent 1st gen Montero won't be easy but let's tackle that later. Do it. Post pics. That's a good question drabina. I'm mostly replying to bump this post. I think most of the folks here have gen 2or 2. One member worth hearing from in Irish44j. That guy has an old Raider he is fixing up. The gen 1's look awesome. Gotta love the late 80's early 90's, but that is an old car. I hear the engine is simple and solid on the gen 1's. It's a 3. Not sure what a joy it would be climbing into the mountains loaded with kids and gear. The biggest issues for me would come down to condition of the vehicle and parts availability. What about AC? You'd need to convert the R12 refrigerant, right? The later Monteros have some foibles that need solving like leaking valve stem seals, but it's not like the 80's series Landcruisers to pick on a that ride a bit are perfect. They are underpowered too with a propensity to blow head gaskets with the later models. I had one do that on me on a test drive, and the vehicle was almost 3x the price of a Montero. Continue your research and you are best to be patient and buy the cleanest, best example, so you can maintain it, vs. Read Irish44j's thread. Lots and I mean lots of love required to bring a ride back to nice after years of so so care. Thanks for replying and your insight. The Montero would be a fun truck for me but it would need to be reliable enough to get me thru few snow days as my other car would most likely be a sports RWD. I know that with such old cars the prices do not follow blue book values but I should have a budget big enough to buy one that has been maintained and in good condition. Nothing super rigged or anything that will get me thru the zombie outbreak though but that's not needed anyway for my camping and fishing trips. I guess my main concern is the parts availability and maintenance cost. Montynv Observer. I love my gen 1, this is our 2nd one. First one was an auto this one is a manual. I drive it everywhere, I have a 19 Bison as well but the gen 1 is just fun to drive. But it can be a bit tuff when its windy, just plan on enjoying g the drive. The 6g72 is a solid motor just not much hp, they run for miles. Not a big deal to replace valve seals but most need to be done.. Come on now, you can't be serious. You are either going to need to get one that has been monitored and service to almost aircraft standards, as Beryl's LWB has and pay for it accordingly. Luck out and find one that has maintained well. Or find the norm of one that the PO has let items get past theim AC? Dependable, can be. I daily my 89 SWB because it is so damn fun to drive. Sent from my pretty good android phone. Few years back, I bought a Chevy and turned it into my daily driver. Compared to i. So nothing is impossible if the parts are available and not crazy expensive. My expectations are adjusted and I know I am not buying Civic or Corolla type of car that's reliable with good mpg that will get me from point A to B Got the link to Beryl's Montero for sale? I couldn't find it. You will probably need to search south of NJ to find a rust minimum sample as well. Click to expand I do not need the Montero to be a daily driver. Just reliable enough for few weekend trips and handful of snow days during the winter. These days I work from home so even my daily driver doesn't get any miles on it. RyanY Adventurer. No matter how well it's been taken care of it will still be a 30 year old vehicle, and things are going to break. Then you'll need to plan on that type of service for every other system on the vehicle. If you're wanting reliability that's going to be how you get it in any vehicle that old. You must log in or register to reply here. Forum statistics Threads , Messages 2,, Members , Latest member jlcameo. Total: members: 31, guests: Facebook Twitter Youtube Instagram.
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I've been owning more wrenching than driving Mitsubishis since I was 15, and I still have my first car in the garage, a Eagle Talon TSi. After getting suckered into the Mitsubishi offroad scene by the Auto-Offtopic podcast crew my girlfriend and I are now addicted to all things Montero damn you! Brad and Andrew promptly got me up to speed on what to look for, and ADD helped give a little push as well! Browsing craigslist nationally, I happened to find this beauty and promptly picked it up. It is a 2. The person selling the car still lived in Oregon, but his cousin was keeping the vehicle for him in Bay City, MI. Long story short, the seller was up in the mountains without service, but we somehow worked out a deal with his brother and cousin, and drove away with the truck and title! The ride home was interesting, as this was both our first time driving a montero. Upon getting it home, I noticed the throttle return spring was binding and not allowing the weber carb to fully open to WOT, only two of the plates were opening. Fixed that up and now it drives quite nice! It is nearly rust free, only surface rust on some subframe components. It has a weber carb that needs tuning, and some toyota 15x7 wheels and 31x I will be working with my new-to-mitsubishi-wrenching girlfriend to restore this beauty to its true glory. Plans are: -Maintenance cathcup: all fluids, belts, plugs, wires, brakes, etc. Making progress. The GF cleaned the original carpet with a powerwasher, pulled the seats, and washed the seat cover upholstery. Next step is cleaning up the base shell, and finding some sound deadener to lay down before the carpet. Mechanicals getting some attention too: fluid change for the transfer case, rear diff, front diff, and transmission. Engine looks clean! More progress! Finished the full fluid swap, valve cover gasket, spark plugs old plugs some were finger tight :o , and roughly tuning the carb. Interior deep cleaning is nearly complete, seat covers were pulled and washed in the washing machine, carpet power washed. Will be adding sound deadener material on the carpet, and on various parts of the body before we re-install the interior. I called a local audio shop, they quoted waaay to high but the sales person was nice enough to give some cheaper recommendations. We installed the piping insulation in the doors inside, and outside panels, and then recovered the factory plastic seal using a plastic drop cloth and permatex right stuff. The doors now sound extremely sold when closing, haven't driven the car to see how it improves road noise but it must be better than the stock bare metal. There is a lot of good info out there on proper sound insulation, basically you need some mass damper on any panel that will vibrate. This cheap stuff works good enough. There's a product you can spray on called lizard skin, but its very expensive. To do this the right way, I would've bought some legit mass dampers for sound deadening, but this was on the cheap and I needed something today! Started with this AFTER cleaning, everything was covered with a thick layer of california desert dust! Had to powerwash and degrease the whole interior first! Since we dont have rear carpet yet, we will wait to do the wheel wells. Busted our butts today getting the front end rebuilt and finishing the interior. Pics to come of the finished interior, it may have ended up with some Sedona, AZ style kitchy seat covers and steering wheel cover to protect them and keep a sweet retro desert theme. Got the front end done on the both sides finally! New rotors, pads, and re-greased the sliders on the calipers both sides were frozen! Need to do a string alignment to get it close, but it should drive much nicer now! Also had the chance to use some of this excellent 'Shinetsu' grease on all the door seals. It really restores the softness to the rubber seals, also works great on trim, works much better than Back to Black. Need to update this with latest info, this was all from a couple years ago when we first bought the truck. Not much has changed except for a carb rebuild, added fuel pressure regulator weber doesn't like stock fuel pressure , got some new tires, added a vintage Clarion radio, and took it to Radwood Detroit! My uncle used to have a Dodge Raider badged version from the same timeframe. They're nice little rock crawlers. Because of this post I just ordered a tube. Strangely excited about rubbing down all the unseen bits on my '91 LS I ordered a tube too. Good to see you here. The time travel confused me for a second since i knew about the truck from IG first. Weather is beginning to cool off here. It's almost Montero season in Vigo-land. Really the 4G54 is not bad, as long as you don't go bigger than 31' tires! It does just fine in Detroit traffic :. The early V6 engines were not much more powerful hp vs hp and the 4-banger is ridiculously easy to work on. Yeah, I want nothing to do with Starion engines lol. I've known several people with those cars and they cursed those engines! The main thing with the V6 is its availability and ability to swap to the newer 3. I want to build mine more along the lines of the Dakar Pajeros granted, they were heavily-worked 4G54s so i can use it for recce at stage rally events and stuff like that. So would prefer something with a bit more oomph eventually. Plus, it's a multi-hour highway drive to the nearest real ORV trails, so having a bit more power on the highway would be nice. That said, I'll probably buy whatever the 'best deal' that pops up is, regardless of engine or transmission. Ah you're right about availability, those v6s were put in everything. We have a gen2 Montero as well that needed a new cylinder head, found one that came from a Chrysler minivan! Good luck on your search, I'd recommend checking the Facebook montero group for trucks too. And funny you posted the Dakar gen1, recently ran into a local who is is replicating the livery, pretty sweet! We aren't that ambitious but a paint job is in the future. What is the 6 car? I want to say S14 Nissan but it's not quite right. Maybe Thunderbird but not quite right either. I'm going to Radwood Austin next month and for whatever reason I never once thought about taking my Montero. That seems like a weird oversight now that i think about it, but it kinda gets lost in the shuffle considering basically ALL my cars are Radwood stuff. It's probably my most reliable radwood-era vehicle, though!! Dang, I just bought one! I need to fabricate a flange for it though, since I just have the upper manifold and it goes down to a 3 bolt? I really would like to do a turbo conversion, seems like its pretty easy if you can find G54B donor parts; turbo, exh manifold, intake manifold, throttle body, distributor, engine wiring harness. Is that it other than custom fab work? Blow through carb seems like a pain in the ass, and standalone is too expensive. I have a starion exh manifold, intake manifold, and a tbi unit that needs to be rebuilt. I was planning to run it off microsquirt. I don't have an actual starion turbo but i was planning to use an adapter plate to a T3 which i have a bunch of old ones sitting around. Turbo oil feed comes off an oil filter housing sandwich adapter which i have. Oil return goes into the front timing cover iirc so i'll just drill and tap a fitting into my timing cover. I'm actually more ok with the tbi-ness of it than i am with running the stock computer setup. I don't think it'll be very limiting once it's on a standalone. It seems the main failing point isn't the tbi fuel distribution or injector limits, it's just that people don't get their head around how it works and end up blowing it up and giving up on it before they get decent results. Seems like MegaSquirt is the way to go then for sure! What do you need to do for ignition adjustment under boost? Does the Starion distributor have a boost reference for load, or can you reuse the Montero distributor? I found a somewhat local deal on a Starion whole engine and ECU setup, very tempting to jump on that and look into the turbo swap. I think the question is: can I make the Starion ECU and wiring harness work, or would I be better off with a standalone megasquirt from scratch? Since its only controlling 2 injectors, no spark control, should be pretty easy to make a wiring harness. I figure if kept at low boost, and a new replacement clutch, should be OK to withold the extra torque and keep trans happy. Any more torque than the stock clutch can handle may put the trans at risk. So to summarize parts list needed, basically unbolt everything from the intake and exhaust side of Starion 2. Really we only drive it lightly on road and a turbo probably wont make much of a difference off road. My inner boost boi says yes! You'll need to log in to post. Login Digital Edition Subscribe. Check out my IG engiekev for pictures and videos of the truck! The doors now sound extremely sold when closing, haven't driven the car to see how it improves road noise but it must be better than the stock bare metal There is a lot of good info out there on proper sound insulation, basically you need some mass damper on any panel that will vibrate. Before the work, after a thorough degreasing and power washing. Front end getting some love. Before Finished. Before: After: The dirt and old rubber that comes off with the grease: Before on trim: After:. Thanks for posting. Mitsubishis don't get a lot of love. Monteros are cool. This is my daily, autocrossed it a few weeks ago when my Miata wouldn't start. I've had it for 10 years. Great car. Love these! In reply to irish44j : Really the 4G54 is not bad, as long as you don't go bigger than 31' tires! In reply to engiekev : Funny how similar these two dissimilar liveries are. In reply to John Welsh : That's a Thunderbird alright, looks like a to my eye. No real updates, but we did take it to Radwood Detroit last fall and had a blast! Take the montero! It was definitely a hit at Radwood Detroit, the only one there. Probably could get away with some colder plugs and always run 93 octane. Vigo I need your guidance! Jump To More like this tperkins mitsubishi descent into madness evo 3, 6, 7 starion and pajero. Please help me stop overanalyzing gear ratios for a street car. Try Our Other Magazine. Get our newsletter Sign up. Follow us on. All rights reserved. Site by Rise.
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