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: large number of feminists now support the spanking of boys, provided it is : done by women and not men.
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< cdd...@ouray.cudenver.edu > wrote: >Debbb80148 ( debbb...@aol.com ) wrote: >: There seems to be considerable misunderstanding of why at least a >: large number of feminists now support the spanking of boys, provided it is >: done by women and not men. > > Are there any feminists out there who would like to rally to >Debbb80148's banner?
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Debbb80148 ( debbb...@aol.com ) wrote: : There seems to be considerable misunderstanding of why at least a : large number of feminists now support the spanking of boys, provided it is : done by women and not men.
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cdd...@ouray.cudenver.edu wrote: > > Debbb80148 ( debbb...@aol.com ) wrote: > : There seems to be considerable misunderstanding of why at least a > : large number of feminists now support the spanking of boys, provided it is > : done by women and not men. >
> Are there any feminists out there who would like to rally to > Debbb80148's banner?
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Thomas Manuel wrote: > > cdd...@ouray.cudenver.edu ( ) wrote: > > >Debbb80148 ( debbb...@aol.com ) wrote: > >: There seems to be considerable misunderstanding of why at least a > >: large number of feminists now support the spanking of boys, provided it is > >: done by women and not men. > > > > Are there any feminists out there who would like to rally to > >Debbb80148's banner? > > > > > >Chris, who thinks hitting is bad for children of either sex. > > In this day of feminism and total equality for the sexes I think girls > should be spanked as much and as hard as boys. This should not only > apply for the same offences done by girls and boys but also for > comparable offences -- analagous to equal pay for comparable worth.
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LaVonne Carlson < carl...@maroon.tc.umn.edu > wrote: >Thomas Manuel wrote: >> >> cdd...@ouray.cudenver.edu ( ) wrote: >> >> >Debbb80148 ( debbb...@aol.com ) wrote: >> >: There seems to be considerable misunderstanding of why at least a >> >: large number of feminists now support the spanking of boys, provided it is >> >: done by women and not men. >> > >> > Are there any feminists out there who would like to rally to >> >Debbb80148's banner? >> > >> > >> >Chris, who thinks hitting is bad for children of either sex. >> >> In this day of feminism and total equality for the sexes I think girls >> should be spanked as much and as hard as boys. This should not only >> apply for the same offences done by girls and boys but also for >> comparable offences -- analagous to equal pay for comparable worth. > >In this day of feminism and total equality for the sexes, I think it >is time we stop hitting both our little boys and our little girls.
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Blair Zajac wrote: >In article <5fm152$ 7...@kira.peak.org >, god...@kira.peak.org (Marg >Petersen) wrote: > >snip > >> I agree! Hitting our children leads to......? Them, in their >> turn, hitting their children. We DO have the brains to find other >> better, less violent means of solving childish disobedience. Why >> not use them? Hitting children serves NO purpose at all, NONE. >> Other than allowing the parent or childcare giver an outlet for >> their own anger and frustration. >> >> >> Marg > > >Ya Ya. Lock the little demons in a dark room, or put them in a corner such >that they behave. Then the poor kid has dark roomitis and/or corneritis for >the rest of his/her life.
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In article < look-ya02408000R...@news.isomedia.com >, Blair Zajac wrote: >In article <5g5hlf$ 3...@kira.peak.org >, god...@kira.peak.org (Marg >Petersen) wrote: > >> In article < look-ya02408000R...@news.isomedia.com >, >> Blair Zajac wrote: > >snip > >> > >> >Ya Ya. Lock the little demons in a dark room, or put them in a corner such >> >that they behave. Then the poor kid has dark roomitis and/or corneritis for >> >the rest of his/her life. >> >> It is obvious (to me) that with your limited intelligence, you can >> think of NO other means of solving childish disobedience that locking >> them in a dark room or putting them in a corner. Please do NOT have >> and/or raise children. >> >> >I would think that spankitis would disappear by the time the kid is a >teenager. >> >> Yeah, I'll bet! Especially if that "son of a bitch" grows up to be >> bigger, heavier and stronger than you. Beware. >> >> Marg >> >snip > >You are too late Marg.
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> Petersen) wrote: > > snip > > > I agree! Hitting our children leads to......? Them, in their > > turn, hitting their children. We DO have the brains to find other > > better, less violent means of solving childish disobedience. Why > > not use them? Hitting children serves NO purpose at all, NONE. > > Other than allowing the parent or childcare giver an outlet for > > their own anger and frustration. > > > > > > Marg > >
> Ya Ya. Lock the little demons in a dark room, or put them in a corner such > that they behave. Then the poor kid has dark roomitis and/or corneritis for > the rest of his/her life. >
> I would think that spankitis would disappear by the time the kid is a teenager. >
> -- > Life is hard. First you take the test, then you learn the lesson. > > Blair Zajac > bza...@isomedia.com
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Marg Petersen wrote: > > In article < look-ya02408000R...@news.isomedia.com >, > Blair Zajac wrote:
> >Petersen) wrote: > > > >> In article < look-ya02408000R...@news.isomedia.com >, > >> Blair Zajac wrote: > > > >snip > > > >> >
> >> >Ya Ya. Lock the little demons in a dark room, or put them in a corner such > >> >that they behave. Then the poor kid has dark roomitis and/or corneritis for > >> >the rest of his/her life. > >>
> >> It is obvious (to me) that with your limited intelligence, you can > >> think of NO other means of solving childish disobedience that locking > >> them in a dark room or putting them in a corner. Please do NOT have > >> and/or raise children. > >>
> >> >I would think that spankitis would disappear by the time the kid is a > >teenager. > >>
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George Chatzipetros wrote: > > Careful now. I'm not saying that such things WILL happen, but that they CAN > happen as a result of spanking. Every child is different and reacts > differently. However, a large percentage of spanked children will carry > this psychological legacy of spanking with them during their whole life. > So, spanking doesnt leave you at your teens and affects you in a subtle way > that cant be easily recognised.
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John wrote: > > I'm not sure that spanking has any effect on children becoming violent > criminals and I'm not convinced that it could be proven, no matter what > books say. Many people were spanked who turned out ok, including me. For > every criminal who was spanked there must be hundreds of spanked kids > who turned out ok.
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> Marg Petersen wrote: > > And with your very misogynistic attitude, I hope to the Goddess you > > have NO daughters. Ours is studying physics, math and literature. > > You know, like father/mother like daughter? :-) By the way, I too > > have two sons, one graduated from Electrical Engineering and CS and > > running his own company and the other working on his PhD in Math. > > Neither of them was *spanked*. > >
> I and many others were spanked as children. I and they turned out ok. > Maybe neither situation has the detrimental effect that people would > like to think.
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> And with your very misogynistic attitude, I hope to the Goddess you > have NO daughters. Ours is studying physics, math and literature. > You know, like father/mother like daughter? :-) By the way, I too > have two sons, one graduated from Electrical Engineering and CS and > running his own company and the other working on his PhD in Math. > Neither of them was *spanked*. >
> >Blair Zajac > > Marg > > -- > Marg Petersen Member PSEB: Official Sonneteer JLP-SOL > god...@peak.org http://www.peak.org/~petersm > "At ease Ensign, before you sprain something." - Capt. Janeway
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In article < 33270B...@sx.com >, John < w...@sx.com > wrote: >I and many others were spanked as children. I and they turned out ok. >Maybe neither situation has the detrimental effect that people would >like to think.
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: spanking to be more effective than consistent, positive, warm, and : involved parenting without spanking, why would anyone spank? : Subjecting a child to a needless risk with no proven benefit is : difficult to justify.
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: let me offer that "spanking" in and of itself, doens't appear, IMO, to : either limit or guarantee success.
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cdd...@ouray.cudenver.edu wrote: > > LaVonne Carlson ( carl...@maroon.tc.umn.edu ) wrote: > [snip] > : Considering that absolutely no research that I am aware of shows > : spanking to be more effective than consistent, positive, warm, and > : involved parenting without spanking, why would anyone spank? > : Subjecting a child to a needless risk with no proven benefit is > : difficult to justify. > > Actually, it is quite easy to justify if one abandons all pretense > of concern for the child's welfare and just says, "she's MY child and I'll > do what I *want* to do to her in order to meet MY OWN NEEDS! So put > *that* in your aluminum foil cigarette and bite my crank, Poindexter!!!" > > Yes, quite easy indeed...
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Marg Petersen wrote: > > In article < 33270B...@sx.com >, John < w...@sx.com > wrote: > >I and many others were spanked as children. I and they turned out ok. > >Maybe neither situation has the detrimental effect that people would > >like to think. > > Perhaps and perhaps not. However, when there ARE other less > violent means of dealing with childish disobedience, why would > *anyone* in their right mind wish to take that chance?
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> > I wonder whether Clinton was spanked as a child for telling lies? It has > gotten so bad, that his hand motions while speaking are an indication of > lying. >
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Blair Zajac wrote: > > In article <5gb3dt$ s...@carbon.cudenver.edu >, cdd...@ouray.cudenver.edu ( )
> wrote: > > > LaVonne Carlson ( carl...@maroon.tc.umn.edu ) wrote: > > [snip] > > : Considering that absolutely no research that I am aware of shows > > : spanking to be more effective than consistent, positive, warm, and > > : involved parenting without spanking, why would anyone spank? > > : Subjecting a child to a needless risk with no proven benefit is > > : difficult to justify. > > > > Actually, it is quite easy to justify if one abandons all pretense > > of concern for the child's welfare and just says, "she's MY child and I'll > > do what I *want* to do to her in order to meet MY OWN NEEDS! So put >
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