Why do i dislike Hinduism (2)

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SOME TALKS I HAD ONLINE:

Person 1:

I only support Hinduism is because there are sects in Hinduism that strictly ban eating meat, that I support and that's not the case with Christianity. Although I like Christianity a lot because of their tolerance and not forcing beliefs but saying jesus is the only way is wrong because muslims think like this, that only their way is right.

Person 2:

your deeds decide heaven or hell not your Religion. An atheist can go to heaven with good Karma and a Christian or Hindu Buddhist Muslim... can go to he'll with bad deeds/karma. Why people mix emotions with religion and become so impractical?

Me to Person 2:

But that is a flawed view of men of "good karma", who decides that?

We all fell short in the glory of God, we are all having "bad karma".

We go to heaven because God is our Father and loves us like a father would love a children.

This is boasting, "i did better than you / i deserve better / i'm more enlightened" mentality of Hinduism and other religions.

If you have a successful son and another that failed at everything. Regardless of success or not, you are going to love both the same way and want both near you and living happy.

The other religions mentality is like a boasting, it sees others that failed to learn about the spiritual as people that "don't deserve, like me", but look well into your life, and you are going to see we are all a failure in the eyes of God. And the fact you have not perceived it, that shows what i'm talking is true.

Me to Person 1:

There are vegetarian Christians.

However, meat is the only fully digestible food, and the only with full bio-availability.

Our digestive system is more alike of a dog than a herbivore.

Herbivore normally have multiple stomachs.

But if it is the only way, then it is the only way. If 2+2=4 is the only math way, then, don't matter if you think it is cute to accept that 2+2=3 or 2+2=5, there is only one way to do math.

If God is the only way and God is our Father, then, going to our Father is of course the only way, that should be obvious to interpret, and since Jesus is the Father made flesh, then, Jesus is the way to the Father.

How can you go with God if not by God?

You can only say there are other ways if you manage to show Jesus and the Father are not one.

Person 2:

it's your conscious which decide between good and bad. Enlighment is not a mentality. It's opening your conscious to differentiate between good and bad. Accept or don't accept. Truth doesn't change. The only way to connect to God is meditation. You can be spiritual following Lord Jesus or Lord Krishna. It doesn't matter who you follow. That is the only very moment you understand the true meaning of God. Again, religion is not competition of my beliefs are right and only right. Religion is the way to connect to Supreme in any form you believe.

Me to Person 2:

But your conscious is flawed, i think everyone can agree with that. It wont have a "degree of enlightenment" where it stops being flawed, Only God is Perfect.

And how can you be sure that you are aware of what is good and doing only good?

Yes, truth does not change, and, like i said, i messed with different religions, and i noticed what is true is that we are flawed and we can't have the proper awareness to fully know what is good.

But christians also meditate, not with the same techniques, but we do.

It matters, God is our Father, we can only go to God by going to God, not other entities.

Vishnu, which is the Avatar of Krishna is flawed, not permanent, have specific qualities, don't encompass all possible virtues, have an image and more, he is not comparable to God / Jesus.

I used to believe what you believe, i still meditate and have mystical experiences, but i noticed i need only God for that.

God is almighty, imageless, perfect, encompass all qualities, he is not cyclic, he always existed and always were, abstract, like a force, and not like men.

That is like saying don't matter if you don't follow God, that is the very moment you understand the true meaning of God.

I'm very studied in other religions, including Hinduism. That is just "i say so", who are you to define that is "the understanding"?

Yes, and "The Supreme" came as flesh as Jesus, our Lord and Savior, and you can only meet the Lord if you follow the Lord.

And Jesus have tons of evidences of his physical existence, not even atheists deny him.

Person 2:

Supreme came and will come in form of Lord Ram, Lord Krishna, Lord, Jesus, Lord Buddha, And GurunanK Dev Ji. Looks like we both understand same speak same but since you read and understand only Bible and hence your conscious allow you to believe in Lord Jesus only. And that's fine. My questions to such discussions as given in this video is that "why Christians and Muslims are after minority religions to convince their Jesus or the Allah is real they will go to heaven according to their scripture and others will go to hell. This ideology is responsible for so many genocides around the world claiming my religion is best and my God is only real God.

again read all my messages again. I never said and will say that Lord Jesus was not savior and not real. He is. And so other Lord also. "Geeta' states very clearly that God will come to earth in human Saint when humanity is in destruction or real trouble. It happened in past and will happen in future also. Have a great day

Me to Person 2:

But that is your mere opinion that Jesus is the same as those other entities. By the things said and some christian axioms, it wouldn't be true.

No, i said i studied other religions, including Hinduism.

In your view, a "good karma" and "meditation" is what save. In Christianity view, Faith saves, because, God have no favoritism, God can love the sinner, the one with bad karma, the spiritually lay, the one that never meditate, the one that eats junk food... God does that because God loves his children.

Christian is not going after you, they are just preaching, you have no obligation to follow it. We are not Muslim.

God is fair, the ones that are going to hell are the ones everyone agrees that would have to go there.

Not Christianity, you are looking at Muslim and comparing them to us.

Christianity was persecuted since the beginning, Christianity don't have a "root core / nation / race", we are all children of God.

And some were not made by Christians, but on Christian lands, which could be said the same to wars that happened on India.

I understand your position, but, if that was true, then, there would have lot of contradictions between the teachings of Jesus than the teachings of Krishna and other entities that came.

I, in fact, believe all religions speak the truth, but not the correct practice.

Have a great day you too, blesses!

Person 1:

if jesus is the only God? Why did he not present himself in a way the way he presented himself to Europeans? Christians can be vegan but my question is not that. My question is does Christianity strictly prohibits meat eating!? No. Why did he create such a diverse world with diverse beliefs?

Me to Person 1:

Jesus presented himself in mid-east, the Europeans just figured it out quickly.

The word was spread to every side of the world, that is how you also know about his name.

He may also present himself in mystical experiences and more.

Because that is not the issue in Christianity. The bible is a history book, and not a book about how the spiritual works or not. That is up to the person, the bible asks us to chase wisdom and knowledge, and by that, you figure out if veganism is good or not. And i studied and figured out that we are made to eat meat.

Wanting a religion that tries to prohibit such behaviors raises red-flags in my opinion.

He created a diverse world, and all beliefs saw a truth in the existence of spiritual realms. But the problem is that those religions were led astray by the creation and not the creator, they began to worship flawed "gods" that are as "gods" as anyone. Those "gods" asks for offerings and other stuffs to attend human desire, and not God's desire.

Those "gods" are flawed, not omnipresent and omniscient, and so, they don't have the proper capacity to deal with the things they deal with, they mess with spiritual mechanics with disregard with the consequences.