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Commercial: This episode of the Ganjapreneur podcast is made possible by friendly service providers in the Ganjapreneur business directory. If you need professional help with your business from accounting to legal services to consulting, marketing, payment processing, or insurance, visit ganjapreneur. Visit the Ganjapreneur business directory today at ganjapreneur. TG Branfalt: Hey, there. You are listening to the Ganjapreneur. He has nearly 20 or more than 20 years of tech industry experience. Leafwire, the LinkedIn of cannabis, is a social network aiming to link cannabusinesses with investors. TG Branfalt: Delighted to have you on, a lot to discuss. Before we get into that, tell me about yourself, man. About a decade ago, I was CEO of a company called Plink, P-L-I-N-K, which was a Facebook credits loyalty program, which if you remember FarmVille and all those crazy games, we were basically giving social gamers the currency to play the games more, and ran that company for a while. We got to be good friends and have been networking ever since. About a year and a half ago, we had a lunch, and he told me how he had transitioned into cannabis and how Simplifya was blowing it up. They raised a bunch of rounds and are scaling really big right now. Told me about Leafwire. Said they needed someone to run it and convinced me to jump in head first. Peter Vogel: Well, one, the cannabis industry was very exciting to be in in the sense that, obviously, it still is, but a year and a half ago it was even a little more immature than it is now. I saw an opportunity similar to what I saw in technology 25 years ago that there were very few companies that were mature or that had a lot of experience or growth yet that I just saw an industry that was ready to just blow up. So one, I saw it as a huge opportunity just because of the stage of the industry. Two, I love the idea of Leafwire. Initially, we really talked about Leafwire more like an AngelList, connecting investors to cannabis, so we were connecting accredited investors to cannabis companies. They want to know about events. TG Branfalt: How many people are currently using the platform, and what are they doing on it? I mean you mentioned a lot of different things. These are all cannabis business people. These are not your typical consumers or stoners. There are some other social networks that are more focused on consumers. TG Branfalt: What are people doing most often right now? Peter Vogel: For right now, our platform is really I would call it around news, awareness, and connection. You could put up your past jobs. You could put up a variety of other things. You could essentially put up as much or as little as you want. Some people create profiles. They can create a profile for their company as well, just like on LinkedIn. They post open jobs. They promote events. A lot of people promote their own companies. People ask questions. We also have the ability for people to like posts. You can comment on posts. You can also connect with people. So in the top right corner of this site, we have a recommended connections module. Once people are connected, they can send messages back and forth on the platform. So that, right now, is what people are doing on a day-to-day basis. Peter Vogel: Sure. All this is based on demand. We get emails from people all day long asking for XYZ or suggesting we do something. One of them is jobs. Obviously, lots of people in cannabis are looking for jobs. Lots of companies are looking to hire people in cannabis. I always say that getting a job in cannabis is not something that happens by accident. You go look for a job in the industry, and vice versa. So we think once we launch this, the nichey aspect of the industry will be a big driver of people wanting to use our platform. We have people email us every day and ask if we know a lawyer who knows cannabis law in California or if we know an accountant who understands E. Multiple times a day people ask us about if we know banks or payment processors who will work with cannabis companies or CBD companies or even just ancillary companies. Because people keep asking for that, we realized we need to have a static place where we can let companies post their offerings, and then other people can go find them. They can go search for what they need, and we can help them connect. TG Branfalt: This whole thing is being built in real time based on feedback. How do I create my company? It was kind of an annoying thing that a lot of people complained about, so we actually just fixed that. TG Branfalt: What about for you personally? I think it was just a sense of there were so many years when people had to fight and band together just to get laws passed. Then once they passed, everyone had to work together just to figure out how to implement them. It was very confusing, and no one knew what to do or how it really worked. TG Branfalt: One of the taglines on your site talks about this community building. It says that you want to help reduce the stigma for industry operators. How can your website, a specialty website, help reduce the stigma for industry operators? So we provide a platform where people come on. You mentioned media advertising. Lots of platforms will sensor you. YouTube cancels video channels. Facebook cancels groups. It shuts down pages. For me, I have a lot of connections I use every day. Come check it out. So one of the ways that we do help remove that stigma is just provide that safe community, that safe platform where people know they can hire people. They can promote events. Have they taken the steps that… You mentioned Facebook who does shut down groups but has recently said that they would be open to cannabusinesses advertising on their platform in legal states. Peter Vogel: Not as much. The cannabias that exists is not necessarily from LinkedIn. States are going legal with recreational or medical. TG Branfalt: When it comes to Leafwire and your user population, are you seeing more growers and dispensaries , people who touch the plant, or are you seeing more ancillary businesses? You may have a better number than I do but somewhere in that ballpark. Peter Vogel: Yeah, exactly. Those are everyone from security, lighting, fertilizer, PR companies, legal, accounting, real estate. You depend on your POS system, maybe a loyalty program, maybe a compliance company, maybe HR, maybe advertising, maybe development, a creative company, someone to design your stores, someone to guard your store. So every single one of those companies probably has 15 to 20 service providers they rely on, and so it makes sense. TG Branfalt: You had mentioned quite a variety of ancillary businesses that work with the cannabis industry. One of them I never really even thought of. You need somebody to design the store. Is there any other examples like that that stick out to you? AxisWire is another one that does PR. Another big part of the industry that people may not ever really think about is packaging. Anytime I have conversations with somebody in the tech industry, I always tell them the same thing. Peter Vogel: Yeah, for sure. I would describe it as a very similar level of excitement. I can tell you that every single one of them we had a bunch of companies, a bunch of judges, to people, and the vibe in all of those people were so excited and jazzed to learn about new companies and to be there and meet each other and talk. The energy is really great right now in the sense of people being excited about growing businesses. The big difference, though, is the regulatory environment. Tech did not have that at all really. In tech, it was off to the races. Anyone could do anything they wanted. Whereas here, it can only grow state by state as governments pass laws, and even the things you can do in certain states whether… There are certain states that have medical, but you can only prescribe cannabis for one type of seizure disorder. So the huge difference, I think, is the growth is a little bit slower and controlled, which is not necessarily an awful thing. Because everyone knows in the tech days, companies like pets. This is sort of broad, but what role do social networks have in protecting data? We are not running our business model to have that be a part of anything we do. TG Branfalt: How are you guys handling advertisements? Do you guys have any regulatory stuff that you have deal with? How are you handling advertisements? We post things about brands. We post things about ancillary companies. We post things about services and advertisements, whatnot. Peter Vogel: I mean we only work with established licensed companies who are advertising legitimate services. TG Branfalt: I noticed some things from Cody who linked us up who does the editing on these podcasts. When he mentioned you, he was telling me that you had some CBD investments. You want to talk to me about those? I was approached by some people who wanted to open some more stores, so some friends and myself decided to be a part of it. They have a bunch of stores in New Mexico as well. They want to know how it works, what the different applications are, or how much they should take, what are recommended products, and they want to talk to someone educated. I believe that in a small, boutiquey-like store, you can have a much better experience than at Walgreens. Just like a pet food store, you can buy pet food on Amazon or on Chewy, which they just bought. You can go to a huge pet food store, or you can buy it at Walmart. But in almost every nice neighborhood, you still see a nice gourmet pet food store because people who love their pets, they care about them, they want to go ask questions. They want to get unique products. Even though you will be able to buy it everywhere, people are going to want to go to stores that have 30 varieties and have the highest quality products and that have the most educated people who are working in the store that can help them. TG Branfalt: So you bring up pet food store. I have a two-year-old Boxador. Still to this day, I give him not much. You like CBD. I take CBD every day. We buy a certain kind for pets. They occasionally flavor it. Some dogs will eat anything. Peter Vogel: They flavor some of these. They flavor with them with bacon or salmon or something so they taste good to dogs. You could give your dog any type of CBD as long as you give him the right milligrams and see. Obviously, they weigh a lot less than a human, so you give them less. We actually do buy the ones for pet. My wife likes to buy that. Theoretically, one, I think it works for pets. You can really give any kind. You just have to monitor. You can find out the appropriate dosage for the weight of the dog. Peter Vogel: Definitely. The way that it displays is the dogs just chew constantly on their joints. Yeah, we have seen a big difference. TG Branfalt: The other thing that Cody was telling me about is that you have an animal rescue project. Can you tell me about that? Is it linked to the cannabis industry, and if so, how? He runs something called No Kill Colorado. They have 12 different policies. If you enact these 12 policies, you can get your shelter to almost a zero kill shelter. Just to give two examples of this so it makes sense. One, when they go pick up a dog… Say a dog has been found. The shelter will go pick it up. Rather than just take it back to the shelter, they walk around in a three-block radius to every house and ask every single person if they know where the dog is from. They just pick the dog up, take it back, put it in a cage, and forget about it. I have to give it up. They go to them, and they pressure them to adopt these principles and work with the city, work with the county to pressure them to do it. Their goal is to get all of Colorado to zero percent kill shelters. We want to start to throw a lot of events, bring in cannabis companies to help support this cause and throw their resources, money behind it. Peter Vogel: Yeah. Peter Vogel: … money from cannabis companies. So this is part of a national organization. TG Branfalt: Super cool, man. I really appreciate you telling me all about that. You learn something new every single day of this industry. Where can people find out more about you, more about Leafwire? Peter Vogel: Well first, we encourage everybody, obviously, to come join Leafwire. Just come join. Create a profile. You can connect with me on Leafwire. Anyone that wants to shoot me an email or connect directly, you can also just go to peter leafwire. Really a breath of fresh air in the industry, I think, especially for being new into it. Definitely try to keep me updated on this No Kill Colorado campaign. We should get him to get on with you, and he can tell you. He started it here, so he can really tell you about it. Again, I really appreciate you taking the time to come on the show. TG Branfalt: You can find more episodes of the Ganjapreneur. On Ganjapreneur. You can also download the Ganjapreneur. This episode was engineered by Trim Media House. Thanks for listening. Listen to the podcast: Read the transcript: Commercial: This episode of the Ganjapreneur podcast is made possible by friendly service providers in the Ganjapreneur business directory. Peter Vogel: Doing great. Thanks for having me on. TG Branfalt: Tell me about Leafwire and what convinced you to jump in head first. TG Branfalt: Yeah, absolutely. TG Branfalt: Making candy. TG Branfalt: Interesting. TG Branfalt: Yes. TG Branfalt: You said that your dog has achy joints. Have you noticed a significant difference? TG Branfalt: Wow. TG Branfalt: Really? Peter Vogel: All right, thank you Tim. Popular Episodes. Get daily updates. Promote Your Business. What is 'live resin? Full-spectrum CBD vs.

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Vogel buying marijuana

In , the Vermont Legislature essentially removed all state-level criminal penalties for the use and possession of marijuana for patients who got a letter from a physician. Now, 13 years later, the list of diseases for which some doctors prescribe marijuana has greatly expanded, and so has the number of patients using it. The first reason they give is that marijuana use is dangerous for adolescents. But treatment facilities for people with most types of addictions are inadequate. And both arguments could be made in regard to alcohol and tobacco — which can also be harmful to adolescents. Both cigarettes and alcohol are regulated by the State and neither can be legally sold to minors. One might argue that selling tobacco and alcohol in stores makes it easier for teenagers to obtain them, and maybe that would also be true of marijuana if it were legalized. Surely a more sensible and effective approach would be to develop a system based on the one we use to regulate the sales of tobacco. Just as we do with cigarettes, we could tax marijuana and use some of the proceeds to educate people, especially young people, about the potential harmful effects of misuse. But to oppose legalization simply on the basis of the potential for abuse in the wrong hands ignores the fact that nearly all over the counter drugs, including aspirin, can be misused, and can be harmful - and even potentially fatal - to adolescents. Sign In. Support Us. Vermont Public is independent, community-supported media, serving Vermont with trusted, relevant and essential information. We share stories that bring people together, from every corner of our region. New to Vermont Public? Start here. Play Live Radio. Next Up:. All Streams. Explore our coverage of government and politics. Vermont Public By John Vogel. Facebook Twitter LinkedIn Email. John Vogel. John Vogel is a retired professor from the Tuck School of Business. His tenure at Dartmouth began in , where he taught Real Estate and Entrepreneurship in the Social Sector, among other subjects. See stories by John Vogel. Latest Stories. Can Vermont use cannabis tax revenue to fund education and lower property taxes? At this college fashion show, Indigenous students wear their favorite and often, their own designs. A Vermonter was reportedly kidnapped in the Philippines, and a search is underway.

Vogel buying marijuana