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Published: 14:48 BST, 5 March 2019 | Updated: 15:16 BST, 5 March 2019
The world's first legally-married transgender couple has spoken about their extraordinary 'multi-orgasmic' sex life - revealing how one of them has had a staggering 198 orgasms in 90 minutes, simply by thinking.
Ginny Seaboy, 58, and Julia James, 55, met on an online forum for trans women back in 2009, and married just a year later, with both praising their instant 'compatibility' - and their incredible sexual chemistry.
Having had 'zero sex drive' before her marriage, Ginny was blown away by the intimacy she experiences with Julia, who is from Nova Scotia, and says that she now feels like she experiences orgasms like any other woman - despite not having had genital surgery yet.
Opening up: Ginny Seaboy (right), 58, and her wife Julia James (left), 55, the first legally-married transgender couple, have opened up about their sex lives in an intimate interview
Intimate: The two women say that they have experienced an incredible increase in their sex drives since meeting, and despite not having genital surgery, they now 'orgasm like females'
However Julia insists that both she and her wife, who has also not yet had bottom surgery, 'orgasm like a female', with Julia revealing she is able to achieve climax simply by 'thinking about it'.
'I can orgasm standing up, not touching myself and even in seven seconds just by thinking about it,' she said.
'I orgasm like a female mostly now - which means I have rolling orgasms until I get tired, rather than constant ejaculation - and can do it up to 198 times in 90 minutes, although I am a non-op trans. Ginny is multi-orgasmic like me, and we have been very, very lucky sexually.'
Meanwhile, Ginny, who was a superstore manager when the couple met, describes Julia as her 'soulmate'.
She said: 'I told her we should take it slow, but I could feel myself falling head over heels – I wasn't very good at taking my own advice! Now, years later, I'm still with my soulmate.
'When I found her my sex life improved dramatically, too – I didn't even have a sex drive before.
'But I've never felt the need to have surgery on my genitals to be a trans woman. We are still both multi-orgasmic and our life in the bedroom is better than we ever expected.'
Despite wanting to move slowly, Julia proposed to Ginny in November 2009 by suggesting they both pose for a photo in wedding dresses as a joke - but dropping to one knee to pop the question, just as they were poised to take a snapshot.
They married in an intimate ceremony at the home of Ginny's parents in Bedford, Canada, on October 7, 2010, with just a few relatives to cheer them on.
It was exactly a year after their first lunch date at a park near Ginny's work, when they fell in love at first sight.
Excitement: The couple did not initially realize that they were the first openly-transgender couple to legally tie the knot, but were delighted when they discovered the news
Shaking it up: Ginny, pictured, admitted that she had almost 'zero sex drive' before meeting her wife, with whom she felt an instant connection
Sharing: Julia, pictured, says she is able to achieve an orgasm in a matter of seconds simply by thinking about it, and without needing to touch herself
And, on discovering through online searches and public records that this made them the world's first openly trans legally married couple, they were over the moon and keen to share their news.
In July 2005, Canada was the first country outside Europe and the fourth country in the world to pass a law allowing same-sex marriage.
With the knowledge that they could get married without any legal issue, the pair were excited to tie the knot.
Ginny, who lived as a man from 1985 to 2004, travelling the world as a bass player in over 30 country, blues, jazz, and rock bands, said: 'It feels great to know we hold that title.
'It's liberating and makes me realise we should never have to hide. We are very proud and fulfilled – I feel like it gives my life more purpose than I ever realised it had.'
Ginny is now her wife's full-time carer, as Julia receives disability allowance because of an illness she would rather not disclose.
Growing up, Ginny wanted to be just like her mom Ruth, 79, rather than like her dad, Ted, 82.
Despite saying she realised she was transgender from the age of two, it was not until 1978, when she was 17, that she decided to start publicly identifying as a woman.
Sadly, her openness did not last, as she realised it was alienating her from her musician peer group because they didn't accept her lifestyle after knowing her as a male for many years.
And, in 1981, she decided to revert back to identifying as a man, for the sake of her work.
After that, Ginny spent years trying desperately to be someone she was not, even marrying a woman in 1985 and staying with her for 10 years, although they did not have children.
She said: 'Because I didn't stick to identifying as a woman, I reckon people thought it was just a phase that I got over.'
Unique: Neither Ginny or Julia, pictured, have had genital surgery, however they say that this doesn't stop them from experiencing sex as a woman
Moving on: The couple, who both lived as men for most of their lives, say they are 'completely different people' now
She continued: 'But it was a lot deeper than that. I hated being that person and I didn't want to play the role of a man, sexually.
'My marriage was fine. I had great respect for my wife, but we weren't soul mates. We were just companions, and when we split up she understood who I really was.'
Similarly, Julia knew from the age of three that she was transgender and dreamed of herself looking like a little girl.
She also tried hard to accept herself as male - even joining the military and acting as an aggressive, masculine fighter in front of other men, but it did not work.
Julia, who left the army in 1989 and worked in business, explained: 'I had a recurring dream that I was standing in an empty city, wearing a dress and finally being a girl.
'I felt glorious – I was finally me!'
She continued: 'When I eventually did transition in 2007 I still felt like there was something missing, but when I found Ginny I was finally complete.'
While Ginny has always had naturally high oestrogen levels and developed breasts naturally, when Julia transitioned, having first bought female hormones being sold illegally online, she then asked her doctor to prescribe them.
Neither has felt the need to have genital surgery, but they love being openly trans and hope telling their story will encourage more people like them to come out of the shadows.
Ginny said: 'When we look back at our lives before we came out and started being openly trans, it feels like we're looking at completely different people.
'Now most of our friends and families accept us and are proud that we've had the courage to face who we really are.
'There is no right or wrong way to be transgender. Like everyone else, we're all different. But, like Ginny and me, I want anyone who thinks they're trans to come out and enjoy being who they really are.'
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How I Lost My Virginity As A Transgender Woman
a touchpoint true story by Corey Rae
Catholic Church’s Oppression Against Trans People Will Again Backfire
W e’re expected to lose our virginity on a special night with someone we love, so we can remember it forever. Like many high schoolers, I couldn’t wait to lose my virginity. But unlike any high schooler I knew, I had extenuating circumstances that prevented it: I was born transgender .
Ever since I was six years old, I fantasized about what my life would be like as a woman. I had no interest in losing my virginity — or doing anything sexual — as a “boy.”
Having sex with the body I was born in didn’t feel right; I was uncomfortable with myself, and I knew I wasn’t “gay.”
So while I had opportunities to have sex prior to transitioning, I was disinterested, and I’m proud that I waited.
I was in 8th grade; he was in 6th. I was his homeroom mentor. The first day of school, I remember thinking how cute he was. Even then, I appreciated a good piece of eye candy. At our respective young ages we could feel the strong energy we shared, but neither of us knew how to act upon it.
While he was making the transition from middle to high school, I was beginning a transition of my own: from male to female.
This didn’t prevent me from having many of the same experiences as my peers, including hooking up. He was the first person to kiss me with passion. The first to kiss my neck, my chest, up and down my body. The first to try unbuttoning my shorts — and the first to be denied. The whole experience was invigorating. But as excited and anxious as I was to release all that built-up sexual tension, I was still wishing I could fully experience a “normal” hook up.
It was the summer between my freshman and sophomore years at Hofstra on Long Island.
I had undergone the painful and extensive process of gender reassignment surgery. I was nineteen years old.
Regardless of the unpleasant healing process, I was ecstatic to get up every morning and put on whatever clothes I wanted. Especially thongs! After wearing a Victoria’s Secret bikini, it was time for me to conquer my next big step as a woman: have sex with a man.
I had to wait at least eight weeks to do any physical activity, so as I counted down the days, I planned. My high school fling and I had kept in touch over the years, making out a couple times, and he was intrigued that I had completed my surgery. He was my first choice to take my virginity, and when he invited me over, I rushed to his house. We made out for a while, and I took pleasure in pleasuring him. Then, finally, he fingered me…and…
I had waited so many years to be played with yet all I felt was an awkward tickle. I think he was nervous to go farther, but I couldn’t wait any longer. I knew the opportunity to have him as my first might not happen again. Plus, I had no interest in going back to Hofstra a virgin; decent guys were slim pickings there. So after some hesitation, he put on a condom.
Eleven minutes and two positions later, it was over. And it was…weird.
Not painful like I expected, but it definitely didn’t feel as good as I thought it would.
On the drive home, I sang as loud as I could to the song “ I Just Had Sex ,” which was probably the most enjoyable part of the night.
With the weight of virginity finally off my shoulders, I began to make up for lost time, having sex with practically any attractive guy who looked my way. Sex was great, and a lot of sex was even greater. Although I know now that most of them were never deserving of me, I don’t regret it. I learned so much about myself through my sexual explorations in college.
The timing was never right. And though on occasion we Snap each other, I have no plans to see him again. If our paths do happen to cross, and the timing is right for a fun night, I will absolutely have sex with him again. For the story. And the orgasms .
Yes, the orgasms. There’s a big misconception about how transgender people have sex. Some never have surgery and are satisfied with their natural born parts, but want to be perceived as the opposite gender. Those who have surgery, like me, sometimes don’t have the same positive results. Some may never be able to get wet on their own. Some can’t open up their vagina without dilation (they use a dildo with lube to stay open). Some don’t have any vaginal or clitoral feeling at all.
In general, the younger someone properly identifies with their preferred gender, the better the results of hormone therapy and surgery.
I’m lucky to have gotten the surgery when I did. Lucky to not have any of those complications. Lucky to be able to have and enjoy sex. Like many women, it takes a lot to get me off, but I feel blessed to have a beautiful vagina with feeling.
I’m now waiting for the day where I meet a guy, we start dating, and I can express to him (or he could read and know from this) that I want the first time with him to be romantic, I want it to be special. I want to get to know him, make that connection, enjoy our sexual tension, and then finally be able to have him in me, and then have him forever (or until our relationship runs its course). I long for that. I am so lucky to be able to have sex as a woman, and now I can’t wait to have it with the right man.
Ps. Because we’re accustomed to identify as either boy or girl when we are very young, we transgender individuals often say “I’m a girl trapped in the wrong body,” etc. But really, we’re just transgender , something that has been around since the cavemen.
The Aztecs, Incans, and Mayans, all had gender nonconforming or all-gender sex-related beliefs and fetishes (examples of this can be found on their pottery and other art made from clay.) The Indonesians recognize a third gender, “Intersex.” It is recent in our history that we’ve become so closed minded to anything besides “straight and male and/or female.” Gender is over, and someday transgender individuals will be treated like everyone else.
I wasn’t born a boy, and I wasn’t born a girl; I was born transgender, and that in itself is a very real lifestyle.

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