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The uppermost ash bed, dated by three independent methods (K/Ar, U/Pb, and Rb/Sr), and from as many as three different minerals (felspar, biotite, and zircon), yields a date of about 72 .5 Β± 0 .4 million years ago (Ma) (weighted mean of several analyses .
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Radiometric dating is consistent with the luminescence dating method (Thompson n .d .; Thorne et al . 1999) . Radiometric dating gives results consistent with relative dating methods such as "deeper is older" (Lindsay 2000) . The creationist claim that radiometric dates are inconsistent rest on a relatively few examples .
Consistency of radiometric dating comes from selective reporting ( Talk .Origins ) Radiometric dating gives unreliable results ( Talk .Origins ) Radiometric dating falsely assumes rocks are closed systems ( Talk .Origins ) KBS Tuff shows the flaws of radiometric dating ( Talk .Origins ) Radiometric dating falsely assumes initial conditions are known ( Talk .Origins ) Radiometric Dating (Creationism vs . Science) Variable C14/C12 ratio invalidates C14 dating ( Talk .Origins )
There are three main assumptions that must be made to accept radiometric dating methods . These must be accepted on faith in uniformitarian and naturalistic frameworks . Recent research by a team of creation scientists known as the RATE (Radioisotopes and the Age of The Earth) group has demonstrated the unreliability of radiometric dating techniques . Even the use of isochron dating , which is supposed to eliminate some initial condition assumptions, produces dates that are not reliable .
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There are several chemical methods for relative dating : fluorine dating measures the amount of fluorine absorbed from groundwater since burial, and nitrogen dating looks at how much N 2 has been lost through the decay of amino acids in collagen . The rates of both processes depend on local conditions
These techniques are utilized in many other fields as well . Geologists, for example, apply absolute dating methods to rock sediment in order to discover their period of origin . Some examples of both radiometric and non-radiometric absolute dating methods are the following: Amino acid dating ; Archaeomagnetic dating
Most people know something about carbon dating and some are aware of rock dating using other radiometric dating methods , but few in the general public have heard about any of the many other dating techniques . One very popular type is trapped charge dating . Just like radiometric dating , trapped charge dating is based on unprovable assumptions . .
The conflicting age estimates can be due to a number of problems . The dating methods themselves can be unsound, based on faulty presuppositions (the position of young earth creationists) . They can be due to local anomalous conditions that do not apply to most great age estimates (position of most old age creationists and evolutionists) .
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See the talk .origins isochrone FAQ for more on radioactive dating . When applied to rocks on the surface of the Earth, the oldest rocks are about 3 .8 billion years old . When applied to meteorites, the oldest are 4 .56 billion years old . This very well determined age is the age of the Solar System .
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