TSL о победе Алины Загитовой на ЧМ-2019
nonameИз выпуска TSL, посвященного ЧМ-2019 (расшифровка)
https://youtu.be/Tk-X-wJIjP0?t=4299
Действующие лица:
1: Dave Lease (ведущий)
2: Jennifer Kirk (бывшая фигуристка, 1 место ЮЧМ 2000, Ч4К 2002)
3: Jonathan Beyer (соведущий, оперный певец)
Jennifer: Alina. Jonathan, you have strong feelings?
Jonathan: I do have strong feelings! Thank you for noticing. You know, I just wrote this does nothing for the sport, and I guess that's my takeaway -- with great talent comes great responsibility.
You are an Olympic champion, you're world champion. What are you doing to push the sport forward and make it better than ever? And all I take away from the Carmen is choppy-choppy-choppy flailing-flailing-flailing. And I don't think that this represents what we want the sport to represent.
This is not about Alina because I think she has great spin. She obviously has great talent. I think this is about the material that is being given to her. And unfortunately, why would they change it, because it seems to always be winning and getting marks that, it in my opinion, doesn't deserve. But I just see choppy and clutter, and it makes it difficult for me to get behind.
Dave: Well, I noticed that if you actually look at her choreography and the transitions, they cleverly do it so that she's always doing back crossovers, and she has really hunched pained back crossovers where she's trying to stick her head up, and her back is a little bit arched, and it looks like she is gonna have a back injury at any moment, and it looks... I kind of feel like they've pushed this as far as it can go. Look, I don't see her ever surpassing this moment, but British Eurosport said it was the best Carmen we've ever seen. So I was confused...
Jonathan: No, they didn't!
Jennifer: They love everyone, and that's why everyone likes them as commentators. Because they love everyone. They just...
Jonathan: I just wonder, and this, I guess, falls a bit to the choreographer of choice there, which I guess is Danny G, but it's sort of The Phantom of the Opera, there's like a beautiful lyrical phrase, or as beautiful as it can be in Phantom and she's like kicking aggressively, and doing all these sharp movements, and I was, like, are you listening? Do you hear how this would be like a spread-eagle or spiral moment, not a flail-and-kick moment.
And again, the Сarmen, it was just... it's how it applies to opera? Because, again, there was no story!
So why you choose a story piece, I'm unsure. But it was just the lack of control in her body, as we talked about like choreo things like that. I feel like gravity and her extremities are determining her body position. And to me it's just not what skating is supposed to be. So it's hard to see it so rewarded.
Jennifer: Yeah, it's just a lot. And the thing is when she does things like the kick out with blast, kick to the side, she has nice lines, gorgeous lines! They just don't let her have lines and I don't think any of this is her fault. I respect so much that she's been so consistent. I did not predict that she would skate as well this season as she has. She's grown and I mean respect to that she's been able to keep it together. I thought her lutz-loop in the long was underrotated...
Dave: Yes! What do you make of her lutz entrance, because she has a very Nicole Bobek, Tonia Kwiatkowski pattern going in, like all her own, of like BS, right!
Jennifer: This is a technique, a lot of Russian skaters do it. Where you wanna - it helps with momentum, cuz you're going from inside to outside edge. It also is supposed to help you with the outside edge, because it's hard to do the fold where you're just gonna stay out, like Paul Wylie stays on the outside edge for so long, there's gonna be a tendency foryour body to want to come to the inside. So it's a quick let's get on the outside edge. It's not aesthetically pleasing, but it works for her. I mean, just everything is so rushed. She needed more lipstick in the short program!
Dave: Prettiest face, right? Like she's got a great model face...
Jennifer: She's gorgeous! She needs to be in all photographs.
Jonathan: Аnd has a great ability, and that's what makes it more frustrating, because these spins are great, and she has so many wonderful qualities and so - It's why I applaud Evgenia for at one moment realizing "I know this can be easier and I know I'm kind of getting by in certain areas" so she goes and seeks it out. It's a tremendous character, it's a true disciple of the sport, but this is just gonna maintain and just turn out more of the same...
Dave: Would you continue at this moment? If you were her? I feel like this must have taken 50 years off of her life to like win the World title.
Jennifer: You can sense the relief when she walked off that ice and Eteri hugged her! You could sense she was just like think "thanks God it's over!" The pressure that woman must have been feeling... I would not continue, I would be... she's a celebrity, go to college, you know!
Dave: I think she could have her own reality show. Maybe she could host something skating shows and like make that Sotnikova money. I would be, like, "thank you, Eteri", like, give her flowers, cuz Evgeniya didn't. So you have to give her the flowers and then you can move on, right? You can just, yeah...
Jennifer: Yeah, you move on! Like she proved that she was able to handle pressure this season, come back, that she's, you know, great. She's a phenomenal skater. But maybe she loves it, and she wants to stay in it, and maybe she doesn't know anything else, so who knows what's going on with her. I'd just respect to Eteri though.
Dave: What do you make of her? We can't really know what Eteri's thinking, cuz she likes fillers, yeah (мерзко хихикают), but I'm so fascinated by her! Like, throughout the season, like, she deserves an Academy Award, like, all of her (...). Like, she...
Jennifer: My favorite, I didn't know if you guys have talked about it, but when they asked her who her favorite skater is ... (неразборчивый общий гвалт и хихикание с визгом)
Dave: What do you make, okay, so her assistants -- they have a new hottie at the rink who's working with the young ones. Because if you notice that Danny G has also aged like 50 years! It looks like vodka and cigarettes. He's not even 30 yet and, like, "he had his moment last season, we need a new pretty boy".
Jennifer: This is how they do it!
В комментах (прямая ссылка на коммент):
alexander bakulin
the american ignorance is astounding. look how this people are constantly talking about choreography, but their understanding of choreographical language are not goes beyond crappy skating programs and some crappy tv shows (dancing moms or whatever, sorry. i don't know what this is). they don't even aware that carmen in not just an opera, but also a ballet, it's obvious even for an ape that alina uses rodion shchedrin version of carmen, so the choreography is mimicking a ballet from 1970s. and look how they discuss the classical moves of maya plisetskaya that alina tries to immitate. omg. what a bunch of ignoramuses. they better be watching dancing moms, lol
Jonathan Beyer
she’s skating to the Bizet score, which is solely an opera.
alexander bakulin
go watch dancing moms. lol. that's what's alina program is all about https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zwLLF7zGuU
IS
http://www.isuresults.com/bios/isufs00101053.htm
Free program music. It is Rodion Shchedrin.
alexander bakulin
i mean, how can you even be more ignorant? and this guy is an OPERA SINGER. i just can't
Jonathan Beyer
bye Felicia.