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Submissive And Obedient
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Adjective
( en adjective )
Willing]] to [[comply#Verb, comply with the ( l ), orders, or ( l ) of those in authority.
Jessica was so intensely obedient of her parents that her brother sometimes thought she was a robot.
Adjective
( en adjective )
Meekly obedient or passive.
* 1756 , Edmund Burke, The Works of the Right Honorable Edmund Burke , G. Bell & sons, page 314:
The powerful managers for government were not sufficiently submissive to the pleasure of the possessors of immediate and personal favour, sometimes from a confidence in their own strength natural and acquired; sometimes from a fear of offending their friends, and weakening that lead in the country, which gave them a consideration independent of the court.
* 1913 , Edward Lee Thorndike, Educational Psychology , Teachers college, Columbia university, page 92:
If the human being who answers these tendencies assumes a submissive behavior, in essence a lowering of head and shoulders, wavering glance, absence of all preparations for attack, general weakening of muscle tonus, and hesitancy in movement, the movements of attempt at mastery become modified into attempts at the more obvious swagger, strut and glare of triumph.
* 2007 , Brian Watermeyer, Disability and Social Change: A South African Agenda , HSRC Press, page 269:
Once oppression has been internalised, little force is needed to keep us submissive .
Derived terms
* submissively (adverb)
* submissiveness (noun)
Synonyms
* docile
* meek
* slavish
* timid
* obedient
Antonyms
* dominant, domineering ( ruling )
* defiant, rebellious ( ignoring )
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Submission and obedience—they are one in the same. Wait, are they? Pause before you answer this question because it isn’t what you’re probably quick to think.
If you’ve been reading A Woman of Virtue for any length of time, you will know that when I say submission, obedience is usually right behind. And rightfully so—they usually go hand-in-hand. In reality though, they are actually two completely different things.
You see, as of lately God has been bringing me back to the basics. Aren’t the basics just so good? The trouble arises when we forget the basics. Take the foundation of our salvation, for example. God sending His one and only son to die for our sins—HUGE! But we can forget that at times, can’t we?
Case in point—the basics are a BIG DEAL!
So God is bringing me back! And how is He doing that? Well, by allowing me to fester in my sin and see my true need for Him. By allowing me to revel in unrest in my marriage, He is showing me that I have missed something along the way. These are the basics I speak of. You will see in a moment, how what I have missed is so foundational to making a house of peace a permenant reality.
When I talk about submission to our husbands, I often throw obedience right along with it. They really do work side-by-side. But I am learning they are entirely different, although they may not look like it on the surface.
This is where I have picked up clues as to why my fighting with my husband still exists to a certain extent. It is true, we cannot have one without the other, but learn with me:
Obey — : to follow the commands or guidance of
//Falling objects obey the laws of physics.
Submi t — : to yield oneself to the authority or will of another : SURRENDER
: to defer to or consent to abide by the opinion or authority of another
: to permit oneself to be subjected to something
This changes everything, Wife! You know why? Because instead of being a one-step process, this whole creating a house of peace thing by getting rid of the fighting is now a two-step process. I know it can seem like more work. But anything good is worth fighting for and a good marriage, united with blessing is what we’re after!
Obey your leaders and submit to them, for they are keeping watch over your souls, as those who will have to give an account. Let them do this with joy and not with groaning, for that would be of no advantage to you.
We are to obey AND submit. One is external and one is internal.
Let me give an example here. My husband just the other day asked me to call the DMV and get tabs for the truck. That is an order coming from him, and he expects that I will obey what he has said.
If you love me, you will keep my commandments.
But Peter and the apostles answered, “We must obey God rather than men.”
As obedient children, do not be conformed to the passions of your former ignorance,
It usually involves physical movement .
To flesh this out, John 14:15 could be alluding to (and is) the great commission and going into all the world to spread the gospel. It is submitting to our husbands which usually involves an outward action. Keeping His commandments is OUTWARDLY (including inwardly) OBEYING whatever He has told us to do.
Acts 5:29 is in reference to the specific account when the apostles were not required to obey authority because it contradicted an order given by a higher authority (Jesus). They were brought to be questioned by the high priest. Verse 28 says, “ We gave you strict orders not to teach in this name,” he said. “Yet you have filled Jerusalem with your teaching and are determined to make us guilty of this man’s blood.” That is when Peter and the other apostles said, “We must obey God rather than men.” This is a case of OUTWARD OBEDIENCE.
1 Peter 1:14 is likewise a command of OUTWARD OBEDIENCE to not live the way we used to.
Just like we can “do” all the right things without a true changing of our hearts, we can have salvation without obeying God’s commands. This is scary because it is considered false submission and we do not understand the true condition of our hearts.
We allude to submission by outwardly obeying, while still in our hearts fighting for our own way.
I have found that merely obeying my husband, without submitting to God, leads to my being in a constant angry state because I am fighting for my rights ON THE INSIDE. I can look the part of an obedient, submissive wife void of true submission. You may want to check out my post Understanding True Submission to dig deeper into this topic.
Now, I wasn’t false in my claim that submission and obedience go hand-in-hand. They undoubtedly do. I was false to allude to them being one in the same. Perhaps I made it clear but in my opinion, it wasn’t clear enough. It is clearer to me now than it was before.
Submission is a matter of will and authority and honor .
Whose will? Mine and God’s, which often contradict each other. Whose authority? God’s. Why honor? Because whoever we honor ( fear, have reverence toward ), is who we will ultimately submit to. This is confirmed in Acts 5:29 when Peter and the apostles feared God more than man.
Peter and the apostles were submitting to God’s authority when they disobeyed the high priests’ orders. Stay tuned for a post titled, When Disobedience is Required , that will explain this further.
My point is that their will (something that is UNSEEN) was submitted to Christ’s commandment. As for John 14:15 and 1 Peter 1:14 , the outward action is a reflection of an inner commitment to follow God and His ways.
How this relates to marriage, however unclear I might have been, is reiterated by something I say in my book and all over this blog: A good marriage can only be a reflection of an inner commitment to follow God and His ways. A more accurate way to say it is that the inner commitment to follow Christ and His ways is out of our submission to Him. This is a truer statement because we can follow Him without being submitted to Him.
Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.
Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord.
Saying, “Father, if you are willing, remove this cup from me. Nevertheless, not my will, but yours, be done.”
Just as we can obey without true submission, we can submit without Christ. This is submitting our will to our husbands. It is so easy to do because we think that not fighting is the goal here , and we do anything that will achieve it. This will yield your desired results for a time and oh, your husband will love it because you are not bucking him. But in time you will experience burnout as I know all too well from experience. Yes, most of us here want peace in our homes, but merely not fighting is not the goal here. It is peace. The author and sustainer of peace is Christ alone, not your husband.
Even though obedience to our husbands (as unto Christ alone) isn’t always easy, it is an oxymoron almost to even consider that true submission to God brings peace. But it does. When my will is submitted to Christ, it almost doesn’t even matter what my husband does or expects of me because my submitted will in the place of safety in Christ trumps it all. This is truly a place of abandonment and will look different for every wife. I couldn’t have understood this even a month ago, as the differences of submission and obedience really do require eyes opened and fresh revelation.
Be blessed today Wife, as you dig even deeper into these truths. Maybe you dabbled your feet in the waters of seeking peace God’s way, but I just pushed you in and now you are soaking wet with it.
Don’t fight it and don’t force it, dear One! Let it change you from the inside out and see what happens in your marriage.
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The act of submitting or yielding; surrender.
‘Obedience is essential in any army.’;
The act of submitting or giving e.g. a completed piece of work.
‘Any submissions received after Friday will have marks deducted for lateness.’;
The collective body of persons subject to any particular authority.
The thing which has been submitted.
A written instruction from the superior of an order to those under him.
A submission hold in wrestling, mixed martial arts, or other combat sports.
Any official position under an abbot's jurisdiction.
A subset or component of a mission.
The act of obeying, or the state of being obedient; compliance with that which is required by authority; subjection to rightful restraint or control.
‘Government must compel the obedience of individuals.’;
The act of submitting; the act of yielding to power or authority; surrender of the person and power to the control or government of another; obedience; compliance.
‘Submission, dauphin! 't is a mere French word;We English warrious wot not what it means.’;
Words or actions denoting submission to authority; dutifulness.
The state of being submissive; acknowledgement of inferiority or dependence; humble or suppliant behavior; meekness; resignation.
‘In all submission and humilityYork doth present himself unto your highness.’; ‘No duty in religion is more justly required by God . . . than a perfect submission to his will in all things.’;
A following; a body of adherents; as, the Roman Catholic obedience, or the whole body of persons who submit to the authority of the pope.
Acknowledgement of a fault; confession of error.
‘Be not as extreme in submissionAs in offense.’;
the act of obeying; dutiful or submissive behavior with respect to another person
An agreement by which parties engage to submit any matter of controversy between them to the decision of arbitrators.
something (manuscripts or architectural plans and models or estimates or works of art of all genres etc.) submitted for the judgment of others (as in a competition);
‘several of his submissions were rejected by publishers’; ‘what was the date of submission of your proposal?’;
behavior intended to please your parents;
‘their children were never very strong on obedience’; ‘he went to law school out of respect for his father's wishes’;
the act of submitting; usually surrendering power to another
the condition of having submitted to control by someone or something else;
‘the union was brought into submission’; ‘his submission to the will of God’;
the feeling of patient submissive humbleness
a legal document summarizing an agreement between parties in a dispute to abide by the decision of an arbiter
an agreement between parties in a dispute to abide by the decision of an arbiter
(law) a contention presented by a lawyer to a judge or jury as part of the case he is arguing
the action of accepting or yielding to a superior force or to the will or authority of another person
‘they were forced into submission’;
an act of surrendering to a hold by one's opponent.
the action of presenting a proposal, application, or other document for consideration or judgement
‘reports should be prepared for submission at partners' meetings’;
a proposal, application, or other document presented for consideration or judgement
a proposition or argument presented by counsel to a judge or jury
‘the judge halted the trial at the end of the prosecution's submissions’;
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What is the difference between Submission and Obedience? • Obedience is following orders, commands or instructions. • Obedience does not guarantee a person's willingness to comply with orders. • It is a reaction to a command where the individual has little choice to reject or oppose the authority • Submission is yielding to power or authority.
Obedient vs. Submissive Obedient adjective Willing to comply with the commands, orders, or instructions of those in authority. 'Jessica was so intensely obedient of her parents that her brother sometimes thought she was a robot.'; Submissive adjective Meekly obedient or passive. Obedient noun One who obeys. Submissive noun
As adjectives the difference between obedient and submissive is that obedient is willing]] to [ [comply#verb|comply with the ( l ), orders, or ( l) of those in authority while submissive is meekly obedient or passive. As a noun submissive is one who submits. Other Comparisons: What's the difference? Disobedient vs Unsubmissive
Obedience without submission Just like we can "do" all the right things without a true changing of our hearts, we can have salvation without obeying God's commands. This is scary because it is considered false submission and we do not understand the true condition of our hearts.
Submission noun. The act of submitting or giving e.g. a completed piece of work. 'Any submissions received after Friday will have marks deducted for lateness.'; Obedience noun. The collective body of persons subject to any particular authority. Submission noun. The thing which has been submitted.
The third step to embracing submissive obedience is to truly view your husband as your authority. No, you are not his child. Your relationship with him is a delicate balance of closest companion and leader / protector / head. It is a perfect balance of companionship and respect true freedom and submission friendship and obedience
Obedience as described in the dictionary means, the state or quality of being obedient , or the act or practice of obeying; dutiful or submissive compliance. In simple terms then, it means you are to do as you are told. Obedience should be expected. It is something that should be non-negotiable within your BDSM relationship.
When submission does not mean obedient I believe that obedience to ones mate begins with the choice of a woman to be submissive and obedient to her own internal nature that she believes to be true. Personally, when I made the statement to my husband that I wanted to be " submissive " to him, I had not yet truly made the choice to be obedient as well.
Early in the relationship we even practiced her being submissive and obedient . I would simply say that I wanted sex and it would progress from there. She would take her clothes off and lie spread eagle on the bed and I would get on top and have sex. We used to even have discussions on how submissive she was.
As for actively being more submissive and obedient for anyone - fuck that for a laugh. I married my husband because I could be myself, opinionated and all. Having said that I do see many of my friends
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