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Nasty war crimes happened from both sides during this recent conflict. A lot of disinformation from both sides, it results impossible to support any of them, which is possibly why other countries didn't intervene, it wasn't worth waging a third world war. Religion is also another bone of contention.
SOAD is logically supporting Armenia, totally understandable. The 1915 genocide must be recognized. Yet, the only way for both sides to protect the land and the people for the generations to come would be to get along instead of stressing divisions and being too proud to acknowledge their faults. Of course it won't happen, so good luck to them.
One can determine the quality of an interview starts like; Turkey and Azerbaijan joined forces to invade your cultural homeland of Armenia and have been killing a lot of people...
Just a minor detail but I remember reading that the Crimean 'gift' to Ukraine was devised by Khrushchev, and that it took place after Stalin's death
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The singer also discusses the historical context behind the band's comeback.
During an appearance on Triple J , System of a Down singer Serj Tankian discussed the historical context behind the band's comeback with two new songs.
As reported, the tracks are titled "Protect the Land" and "Genocidal Humanoidz." According to the press release, the band was "motivated by the recently-erupted conflict between Artsakh and Azerbaijan, the latter aided by Turkey and accountable for the greatest violence the region has endured in 26 years."
The press release adds that "profoundly affected by the unwarranted surprise attacks and bombings of civilians perpetrated by Azerbaijan and Turkey (Turkey was responsible for the genocide of 1.5 million Armenians in 1915 as well as over 100 years of denial), [drummer John] Dolmayan texted his three bandmates."
You can check out the first two new SOAD tracks in 15 years here via Amazon.
A part of the conversation is available below (transcribed by UG).
"How are they justifying it? Well, I guess you gotta ask them how they're justifying it...
"But in the 1920s, Joseph Stalin decided to give these lands to Azerbaijan from a deal that he brokered with Kemal Atatürk of Turkey.
"It was not his land to give but because Armenia fell under the Soviet Union - not by real choice, but because it was either that or having a second genocide by Turkey right after the First World War, which we already had, the first genocide where we lost one and a half million Armenians by the Ottoman Empire.
"And then in 1918, Armenia became independent for a very short period of time. In 1920, with the Turks at the door, wanting to invade again, and the Soviets saying, 'You can either deal with that, or you can become Soviet' - not much of a choice really.
"So Stalin pretty much had his way, it was his way of dispelling nationalism, dispelling religion. It didn't really work, obviously.
"But he would take one land and give it to another. He did that with Abkhazia , and South Ossetia, which created, obviously, problems with Georgia.
"He did that with Crimea, he's done that with Nagorno-Karabakh , which is what Armenians call Artsakh. So these lands were never really Azeri lands, they were given to them by Stalin.
"They never controlled those lands, these have been independent people living there, they've always been predominantly Armenian.
"But yet because those were lands given to them by Stalin in the 1920s, in the 1990s - when the people voted for a referendum for independence there - Azerbaijan, instead of accepting that referendum which any civilized country would, and say, 'Look, there's this territory. They're voting for independence, I got to do something with this,' they actually invaded and started a war.
"And not just that, but they started killing Armenians in Azerbaijan through religious kind of warfare in Baku in different places. So that started the war in the 1990s.
"Armenians won - they declared independence, and they've kept those lands since 1994.
"Azerbaijan has been arming itself with billions of dollars of petrol, petrodollars, since '94 so that they can invade and take these lands back."
"My grandparents were all survivors of the Armenian Genocide and they ended up in the Middle East because they were kids.
"My grandfather was probably four or five when the genocide started and so he was pushed through the Deir Ez-Zor desert with his younger brother, and his mother, and his grandmother.
"And they pretty much all died except his mom, who was separated from him - and years later they found each other.
"But he ended up in Lebanon. And my other grandparents, from my dad's side, were also basically children refugees - they ended up in Syria.
"And so my dad was born in Syria, my mom was born in Lebanon. I was born in Lebanon, I was seven years old when we migrated to the US at the beginning of the Lebanese civil war.
"But culturally, we're Armenian and this is our homeland - Armenia is our homeland. It's like being Australian and being born in New Zealand.
"It's a difficult thing for Armenians around the world to watch yet another injustice after a hundred years happening to our people by some of the same people that are still denying that the genocide occurred, even though the United States of America congress has recognized the Armenian genocide, even though Russia has, even though France has, even though most countries - the Vatican, Italy, Germany, many countries around the world have recognized the Armenian genocide because it's a historical truth.
"Turkey still denies the role of their ancestors and still denies the genocide.
"In fact, before the war, President Erdogan of Turkey relished in the thought of, in his words, 'finishing the work of our ancestors.'
"These are genocidal words which is why we wrote the song 'Genocidal Humanoidz.'
"Azerbaijan too denied the genocide. In fact, they have no problem, and with impunity do beheadings, skinning, murders of soldiers, civilians...
"A lot of the soldiers that are being brought back to Armenia - Armenian soldiers that were killed, that were on the Azeri's side, are beheaded.
"I don't know how to explain this to the civilized society where that I’ve grown up in, as well as you, but it's beyond me! They're committing war crimes after the fucking war."
"Totally. We're just for connecting - no management, no label, no nothing, no producer, and just being like, 'We got to do this whether people like it or not, whether our team wants to do it or not, whether the label wants it or not. If they don't, we'll put it on ourselves.'
"We were so gung-ho because it was more about making an activist type of impact - because we are seeing people killed, young people being killed with impunity by Azerbaijan and Turkish aggression, and it was almost like the world had no idea what was going on.
"We had to raise our voice - we have to be screamers, we have to be loud! And the best way we could have done that was release music and put a message with that music, and say, 'This is why we're doing this.'
"And also raise funds - we've raised probably about a million dollars within the last two-three weeks for Armenia Fund, which is a global nonprofit for humanitarian aid in Armenia.
"And we're going to continue to do that. So we didn't get together and said, 'Hey, let's play music together.'
"It was more about, 'We got to do this for our people! Let's get together and do this!' Nothing else mattered, and that's what's beautiful about it, to be honest."
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Tom Morello, Serj Tankian Address Disillusioned Fans Who’ve Just Learned Their Music Is Political

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Right-wing bros will always love Rage Against The Machine, despite the fact that they are a very, very left-wing band. For example, as The Detroit Metro Times reports, a Michigan man just went viral on Twitter for getting dunked on repeatedly after telling Rage guitarist Tom Morello to stay out of politics.
“I use to be a fan until your political opinions come out,” Scott Castaneda wrote in a since-deleted tweet. “Music is my sanctuary and the last thing I want to hear is political bs when i’m listening to music. As far as i’m concerned you and Pink are completely done. Keep running your mouth and ruining your fan base.”
“Scott!! What music of mine were you a fan of that DIDN’T contain ‘political BS’? I need to know so I can delete it from the catalog,” Morello jokingly responded. Maybe Scott, like #1 Rage Against The Machine fan Paul Ryan , just isn’t a lyrics guy? Or maybe he was thinking of, uh, Florence + The Machine?
Scott!! What music of mine were you a fan of that DIDN’T contain “political BS”? I need to know so I can delete it from the catalog. https://t.co/AMpmjx6540
— Tom Morello (@tmorello) June 9, 2020
But this goes beyond RATM and Tom Morello. Although System Of A Down drummer John Dolmayan is a big Trump guy, frontman Serj Tankian is very much the opposite of a Trump guy . And in a recent appearance on the Side Jams With Bryan Reesman podcast, Tankian talked about his confusion at fans who somehow missed all of the political elements in his music.
“When I get people on my socials that are, ‘I love your music, but I don’t wanna hear your political ideas,’ that’s fair enough. If they’re nice enough, it’s fair enough, but sometimes they’re really mean,” Tankian began.
“But what I don’t understand,” he continued, “and a lot of other people that follow the music say the same thing. They’re, like, ‘Have you not listened to the fucking words in 20 years? He’s been saying all this stuff through his music all this time. What are you, just dancing to it because it’s groovy? You’re not really getting the message?'”
Sorry to break it to you, guys — Rage Against The Machine and System Of A Down are political bands!
Country-adjacent artists Kacey Musgraves and Jason Isbell, who make slightly less political music but have always been very open about their politics, also recently talked about potentially losing or gaining fans due to speaking out about things likes police brutality.
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Last summer—after a 20 year hiatus—Hollywood released the long awaited sequel to the alien invasion blockbuster, Independence Day , entitled Independence Day: Resurgence . The original film was a massive success, thanks to groundbreaking special effects, a diverse ensemble cast, and (most importantly) a charismatic lead performance from the perpetually sexy Will Smith.
To be fair, I didn’t actually see Resurgence , but neither did anybody else in the U.S . As it turns out, most Americans decided back in ’96 that we had no interest in revisiting Independence Day unless the Fresh Prince was involved. The studios apparently missed the memo. When Smith turned down the role, they went ahead and made the sequel without him. It was a bad idea, and like most bad ideas, I blame white people. Specifically, I blame the room full of white writers, producers, directors, and executives who greenlit this doomed disappointment from the start. And this isn’t the first time a room full of white people has let me down.
Need I remind you of purple ketchup ? The Spider-Man musical released on Broadway ? George Zimmerman’s acquittal by jury ? The Holocaust ? All of these bad ideas started with a bunch of white folks sitting around a table being extra white. If history has taught me anything, it’s that there’s nothing more disappointing or dangerous than a room full of white people. With that in mind, I’d like you to consider why anyone would expect white-led anti-racism organizations to be any different.
“If there’s one thing white people DON’T need, it’s more spaces reserved for their comfort at the expense and exclusion of people of color.”
White-led anti-racism groups have existed for hundreds of years, and they’ve often been problematic, counterproductive, and just fucking weird since their inception. Take, for instance, the Pennsylvania Anti-Slavery Society of 1833, which believed that slave owners were missing out on a business opportunity by not putting slaves on the payroll. They argued that paying slaves “ would make them doubly valuable to [their] masters ,” because paid laborers are more motivated than forced laborers. That’s the whitest thing I’ve ever heard, and I own two Hanson records. I can think of a thousand better reasons not to own a person aside from increased productivity.
The Anti-Slavery Society was equally concerned with growing the free labor market in order to sustain capitalism as ending the gruesome practices of slavery—and these were among the most radical white folks of the day. Even Frederick Douglass used to chill with them. And while Frederick was no-doubt working with what he had at his disposal, we have
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