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Emotional incest , also known as covert incest, is a dynamic that occurs in parenting where the parent seeks emotional support through their child that should be sought through an adult relationship. Although the effects of emotional incest can be similar to those resulting from physical incest , the term does not encompass sexual abuse .
Many times when I am working with people in therapy who are developmentally stuck, they end up sharing that, as children, they were the person their parent turned to as a confidant or for emotional support. Children put in this position may feel special or privileged because the parent is sharing adult information with them and/or is looking to them for support, creating a sense of closeness. However, given that the child’s needs are ignored in favor of the parent’s, there can be devastating long-term developmental consequences.
Clearly, it is desirable for parents and their children to be close. However, in healthy parent-child relationships, parents prioritize their children’s emotional needs as opposed to children taking care of the parent’s emotional needs. When children are put in the position of meeting the emotional needs of a parent, it creates an unhealthy dynamic in which children essentially become the parents. The children are emotionally abandoned, in effect robbing them of their childhood.
It is important to note that, in most cases, parents who foster a dynamic of emotional incest do not realize the impact of their behavior and do not intend to hurt their children. But the impact and the hurt are there all the same.
Most often, emotional incest occurs when an adult marriage or relationship is fragile, a parent is lonely , or there is a broken family dynamic such as infidelity , mental health conditions , or addiction . One or both parents may seek to get their emotional needs met through the child instead of seeking support from adults. Sometimes a parent will undermine the other parent during an argument or separation/divorce proceedings by putting children in the middle or colluding with a child, which increases the level of the parent’s dependency on the child. The child, in turn, may become concerned about having to take sides or protect a parent.
It is important to note that, in most cases, parents who foster a dynamic of emotional incest do not realize the impact of their behavior and do not intend to hurt their children. But the impact and the hurt are there all the same.
Children who have experienced emotional incest may have great difficulty setting boundaries and getting their needs met as adults without feelings of excessive guilt . In addition, their relationship with their gender and sexuality can greatly inhibit their ability to maintain intimacy in adult partnerships.
Emotional incest can create an unhealthy sense of loyalty or obligation to a parent, which can result in a love / hate relationship between children and parents. Additionally, substance abuse , feelings of inadequacy , low self-esteem , and compulsivity around work, sex, and food are all potential outcomes.
Emotional incest also can impact the family dynamic as a whole. One partner typically experiences being shut out and may be denied opportunities for parent-child bonding. Additionally, other children may be neglected as the parent leans heavily on the “chosen child.”
For those who experienced emotional incest as a child, there are several ways to promote healing. They include the following:
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It was hard for me growing up because my mom made me her confidant after my dad left. That is an awful lot of pressure to place on a young girl, and I heard stuff that I should not have had to hear. I think that this is why even now I have a hard time being around my mom because she needs so much and I feel like I have so little left to give to my own family after I am with her.
My appreciation to the author Ms Adams for this resource. It severely comprimises and complicated the intra and interpersonal world of relationships for the unknowing child .
Do you feel guilty? I do. You want to get away from your mother then you feel a sudden pang of guilt as though you are the one not thinking straight and are just being paranoid.
This makes me believe that this is something that is pretty common and yet not talked about a whole lot
I did not realize that this was what I was doing.
I thought that it was normal for me to lean on my kids when I needed them like they have always been able to lean on me.
Don’t I deserve that in return for all of the sacrifices that I have made over the years for them?
And I think that they would have told me if it was a burden.
Sharon- I don’t think most parents who do this actually realise, especially as they still often carry the bulk of the adult role & responsibilities. But it’s really about what is appropriate and a child can reasonable be expected to handle. Kids shouldn’t be their parents confidante, or have the parents act or speak in a way that conveys the child in being given responsibility for adult/family matters.
As for deserving to depend on them, not necessarily, they don’t owe you, but hopefully they respond out of love and gratitude- and I presume you are speaking about your now adult children.
People rarely tell those they feel emotionally responsible for that they feel burdened- at least not in healthy and direct ways- it’s a dysfunctional relationship, and more than likely any ways that they communicate their concerns will be negatively received.
This is so true. my mother adopted me in order to USE me as her emotional support. The last time I saw her was about 10 years ago. I was 43 at that time. I told her next time to buy a dog! She still will never admit that she purchased me in order to use me as her emotional support. Most of us never, ever, get the chance to say that.
I feel all your pain, been feeling it for awhile. Just did not know the actual root cause of it all. Both my husband and I have mothers who do this to their “favorite” sons. My mother had no use for me because I never bought into her games. So, I had to move on from my childhood family. However, when I got married to my husband of 25 years, I did not realize that his mother was so similar to mine. She lived her life differently, so I did not recognize the signs. But after 25 years of feeling isolated and alone in my marriage, I started looking at the root cause. Where was this coming from? Why was my husband so distant, working all the time, and only talking to his parents and not me about things??? Why did he turn to gambling, smoking pot, eating junk food, and drinking beer (none became serious addictions, but addictions all the same) instead of me? I could never really come up with the answer because he would always say how much he loved me and wanted to be married to me…yet I never felt anything from him, really. Just the words. I saw today how many text messages with love emogi’s his mother sent him the past few weeks. There were so many text messages, I could not even count the #. They were almost every 30 minutes and with love in your eyes emogi’s. I completely lost it. I told him to get out. My husband does not even talk to me that much in text, in fact, I do not hear from him all day long when he is out. I was very hurt and feel like my husband’s mother is his relationship and not me. I think my feelings are valid. I am going to find a good therapist and read the books. Thank you ANGELS for pointing me in the right direction. I can feel more at peace now with my feelings.
Sharon, I am happy to read that your speak in the past tense “I did not realize…” etc. and I believe this means that you are now re-thinking the situation. Yes, we definitely do deserve to have our emotional needs met and no, we don’t have the right to expect our children to meet them. In an ideal world those needs are met by a peer or peers. The Transactional Analysis model can be helpful in getting an overview of emotional development within the family and can help, not only demonstrate the value of, but clarify how to promote, develop and maintain emotional boundaries
THANK YOU for recognizing the behavior. Most parents like this do not think what they are doing is wrong and get offended when a child grows up, moves out, gets married, etc and leaves the parent finally by themselves. It is nice to know that this article can help parents change as well as children accept and find ways to heal.
So true. Yes, it’s much better that you rethink it. It signifies that you are growing as a person. Congratulations, Sharon. I suggest you read a couple of books dealing with emotional incest and parentification. Some of the older books I have read call this “Daddy’s Little Princes, Mommy’s Little Prince” because the bond is usually of the opposite sex. But not always, obviously. Your children will appreciate your apology, if you find that this is your parenting pattern. People learn behavior by example. Most likely you didn’t realize that this is a negative pattern because it’s what you were shown. I think it’s courageous of you to consider that you aren’t perfect and are open. Namaste.
In my personal case, my mother actually hindered me from moving out, with guilt trips, temper tantrums, and other psychological abuse. I just gave up. This, in turn was one of the causes of my attempt at a relationship, to fail. I know this sounds bad to say, but I don’t want to even attempt to pursue other relationship, until she dies. I’m 46, work full time, no real friends to hang out with, on a regular basis, and still live at home. On the upside, I’m not a drug addict, or an alcoholic. Go ahead, criticize away.
Hey ROB. . . I get it too. . . have had similar life circumstances, and have had good therapy to help me make clear and distinctive boundaries with mom as not to become swallowed by her emotional vortex. I’ve made intentional choices to make friends, spend time with people who are emotionally healthy, engage in activities and interests that are solely mine and not part of her life, and still maintain a level of relationship that has it’s beginnings and endings. I used to be very hostile as I felt held captive by her emotional neediness and seeming manipulative ways of keeping me close to her. I still feel a little misplaced guilt when I choose independence and self care. Mom has had to learn to live with my adult choices. Good luck on your journey my friend!
Amazing to think that there is someone out there getting paid for developing such theory. The idea that “emotional incest” exists in isolation from all other external variables to create negative lifechance outcomes for people is fundamentally flawed. The article is nothing but subjective psychobabble developed by somebody who has counselled people who at some level need to blame their parents for their situation. Total rubbish and I don’t see what value to society such theory has. “They mess you up your mum and dad ………..”
You just don’t get it Stuart. With attitudes like that I’d had to be your child. Wouldn’t feel safe sharing my inner world and what’s going on in my life. What has been described relates in many aspects to me. The patterns that were set up from an early age seemed the natural and only way to be because that’s how they were. It’s it’s taken a long time to realise and unravel the unhealthy patterns and their consequences in my life. I understand where it comes from. My grandma did the same with my mum. She was only a child when her dad died and grandma relied on her to get her emotional needs met and was clingy and clutching to my mum. My mum had both a loving and controlling upbringing that kept her from having any kind of normal childhood. Grandma expected my mum to never leave home and to be there always for her. It was traumatic to move away and have a life of her own when nearly 30. While my mum tried not to be like her mum and was not as intense, she carried with her so much programming and habits from her growing up. There is no blame but lots of understanding. As well, the consequences played into each of my family’s patterns of life and programming. I know it’s not easy to change, and the resources weren’t there for my mum and grandma. They just touched it out the best they knew how.
My sons girlfriend has told my son that this what he has! The mess his head is in now is shocking. After meeting him he became a drug addict and heavy drinker. I was a single parent worked my arse off, never had a holiday_he had at least 2 a year, he did very very well at college, but he thinks he’s owed something! He does not want to work so they came up with a plan that she would be his career! He would either get a home because he would be under mental health or move into her house then she would give up work and claim rent from the council and money for being his career. She has told everyone that I abused his with this Emotional Incest. Off cause he had chores to do, that would of been the same even if he had a dad. After 2 years with her he has become a total mess and she is 50 and he is 30.! I’m 54. He has had lot of girlfriends, interests but now has no friends She also beats him up. I am now treated like a nasty woman by all. That’s what this rubbish Emotional Incest can and has done to me and him. Family life has ups and downs it’s called life We are not Robots.
Stuarts June 2017 comment merits my input. The mistakes my mother made took place in the 1950s. My sister was chosen at the age of 10 to fill in as co-parent while Dad worked in sales where he was away 3-4 days out of the week. Mom was alone in a house in rural Pennsylvania, with six children under the age of 13. She had no car or a license to drive. In addition, the admission of feeling overwhelmed, alone, or burdened with her role as mother, was considered by most to be a character flaw. Professional intervention nearly always resulted in a trip to a sanatarium for electroshock therapy. Get it?
Stuarts June 2017 comment merits my input. The mistakes my mother made took place in the 1950s. My sister was chosen at the age of 10 to fill in as co-parent while Dad worked in sales where he was away 3-4 days out of the week. Mom was alone in a house in rural Pennsylvania, with six children under the age of 13. She had no car or a license to drive. In addition, the admission of feeling overwhelmed, alone, or burdened with her role as mother, was considered by most to be a character flaw. Professional intervention nearly always resulted in a trip to a sanatarium for electroshock therapy. Get it?
Me: You sound defensive.
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By sharing what happened in my family, perhaps it will help someone to take action and rescue yourself and everyone you love before its too late. Looking over my shoulder at the past 58 years, I would not trade places with my sister who mom mistakenly abused, for anything. But to a child watching a sibling get privilege, authority, and access, it is the holy grail. My sisters fell for it. They tried to get moms attention away from the chosen child any way they could for the next fifty years. They were seeking a mirage. They are deeply insecure, cannot endure the hint of criticism, at work, in school, from spouse. There is a trail of dead bodies left behind all three of them. As for me, as the smallest, youngest, most vulnerable, I was objectified; used like a pro pby my sisters, in many schemes, designed to gain what the chosen one had. At 18, I got out. There’s some brokenness but nothing like them. I will tell you I had clarity and discernment at a very young age I can not account for, outside of divine protection. The chosen child hurt me physically . as my babysitter, prior to my being able to talk. My dad questioned her after observing me clinging to him for dear life when he and mom were going out. Mom had already let me down. He was my last chance. My sister convincingly charictorized me as an attention seeking little liar. He turned to mom, who affirmed the lie, and the dye was cast. For the next sixty or so years I have been labeled as such regardless of no evidence to support the label, and volumes of evidence that my sister lied compulsively. This exemplifies a pattern all three sisters have. Unable to endure correction if a mistake is made, all three of them will go to any length to cover it up. An untrained babysitter can be trained if she owns what happened. Not huge or life altering. However, the coverup has been on going for 58 years. I had to give up a family to survive it, then live an entire life in the absence of celebrating successes, comforting losses, companionship, fun, laughter , and tears to share with them because I will not permit the objectifying to continue. If there is any one in your life , labeled as a child like that, please seek the truth. As an expert, I can tell you if there is one thing a child labeled a liar, absolutely cannot do with any success, it’s lie. I survived it because early on I noticed
terrible names are far less painful to endure if I absolutely know it is not true. Today I am bulletproof because of genuine self respect forged by dignity in adversity. But that wisdom couldn’t come from a six year old. What was meant to harm me, was transformed to benefit me, thanks to Our Lord. Funny, I left home at 18 and became a ships cook on big yachts for nearly 12 years. It was lik
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