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>>Hi Adam,
>>I had several friends who were in reform school where
>>discipline was certainly strict, including spankings.
>>
>>If I may ask you a few questions from your own
>>experience
>>How old were you when you were there?
>>Was it a boys only school?
>>Were the spankings given in class or in private?
>>How often were the pants down spankings?
>>
>>You said that the principal or school head was a
>>woman. Were there also female teachers who spanked
>>boys bare?
>>
>>Can you describe the normal procedure when a boy was
>>about to be spanked?
>
>Hi Sammy. I was taken there when I was 15 and managed
>to get out by graduating before my 17th birthday.
>
>The school was boys only, but there was a girl's
>school right down the road. We saw them regularly when
>we went over there but we were absolutely never
>allowed to talk to them.
>
>Most of the spankings were not given in class. We only
>had school 4.5 hours a day and then the rest of the
>day was various therapies, hours of chores, and
>mundane stuff like eating.
>
>At all times you were not with your therapist, the
>staff was in charge. They were college students and
>had full discretion to spank you. Usually when you got
>in trouble in class the staff in the room would spank
>you, but sometimes the teacher would do it.
>
>The staff can spank however they wanted but it was
>usually not in private.
>
>Pants down spankings were pretty frequent. As I said,
>the staff had discretion in how to spank, so sometimes
>they would leave your pants up, but usually if it was
>more than a warning they would take your pants down.
>
>The amount of spankings varied wildly based on the
>student. When you first got into the program, you had
>less privileges and you would get in trouble a lot,
>some of which would result in being spanked. Not that
>spanking was actually the most common punishment.
>After you'd been there a while, the punishments
>usually became much less. But even people who'd been
>there a couple of years got spankings at least once
>every couple of weeks.
>
>The Residential Director was a woman. This is a
>different person from the principal. The principal was
>in charge of the school, the Residential Director was
>in charge of the staff and basically everything about
>our day-to-day lives. There were female teachers who
>spanked. There were also plenty of female staff
>members who spanked.
>
>There was no normal procedure. As I said, it was up to
>each staff member how they wanted to spank (within
>reason).

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Date Posted: 07:41:36 02/23/20 Sun
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>Hi Adam,
>I had several friends who were in reform school where
>discipline was certainly strict, including spankings.
>
>If I may ask you a few questions from your own
>experience
>How old were you when you were there?
>Was it a boys only school?
>Were the spankings given in class or in private?
>How often were the pants down spankings?
>
>You said that the principal or school head was a
>woman. Were there also female teachers who spanked
>boys bare?
>
>Can you describe the normal procedure when a boy was
>about to be spanked?

Hi Sammy. I was taken there when I was 15 and managed to get out by graduating before my 17th birthday.

The school was boys only, but there was a girl's school right down the road. We saw them regularly when we went over there but we were absolutely never allowed to talk to them.

Most of the spankings were not given in class. We only had school 4.5 hours a day and then the rest of the day was various therapies, hours of chores, and mundane stuff like eating.

At all times you were not with your therapist, the staff was in charge. They were college students and had full discretion to spank you. Usually when you got in trouble in class the staff in the room would spank you, but sometimes the teacher would do it.

The staff can spank however they wanted but it was usually not in private.

Pants down spankings were pretty frequent. As I said, the staff had discretion in how to spank, so sometimes they would leave your pants up, but usually if it was more than a warning they would take your pants down.

The amount of spankings varied wildly based on the student. When you first got into the program, you had less privileges and you would get in trouble a lot, some of which would result in being spanked. Not that spanking was actually the most common punishment. After you'd been there a while, the punishments usually became much less. But even people who'd been there a couple of years got spankings at least once every couple of weeks.

The Residential Director was a woman. This is a different person from the principal. The principal was in charge of the school, the Residential Director was in charge of the staff and basically everything about our day-to-day lives. There were female teachers who spanked. There were also plenty of female staff members who spanked.

There was no normal procedure. As I said, it was up to each staff member how they wanted to spank (within reason).

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>>Hi Adam. I am new here, just checking this forum out.
>>I am mostly female centric, as I have five younger
>>sisters that got it a lot growing up.
>>Reform schools, orphanages, and nun cloisters can be
>>quite interesting, as the disciplining in these is
>>usually kept quite secret.
>>So I am always interested in these places.
>>I am surprised that no one else has shown any interest
>>in your post and experiences. I don't really
>>understand this. Maybe because you are not
>>disciplining any boys at this time? Sounds like you
>>have a lot of knowledge and experience in this area.
>>Sounds like you need to share your experiences with a
>>caring person. Maybe we should communicate privately,
>>if no other members seem to care about your post. PS I
>>esp liked the part about the head mistress and her
>>sister getting the belt as a child. But that is a
>>subject for another forum, I know.
>>I think that girls are disciplined much more often,
>>and until much older than boys are. But I understand,
>>boys need disciplining also. Both my Mom and Dad
>>spanked me. And there seems to be a lot more grown
>>boys that still want/need to lovingly get it. Not me,
>>tho. I am just a disciplinarian.
>>I have never spanked a male, and I have no interest in
>>doing so. Only girls and women. But I have had many
>>close, confidential family friends on here that have
>>boys. As a man who has a strong interest in parenting,
>>(elementary school teacher), I have learned a lot from
>>these families, parents, and guardians. I become
>>friends with some of the boys in these families, too.
>>So I learn quite a lot. I am on the stern yet loving
>>side myself, so don't be shy please.
>>
>>
>>
>>>I posted about this on another forum, and I thought
>it
>>>might be of interest here.
>>>
>>>I was at a treatment center in Utah for high school.
>>>Technically it wasn't a reform school, though it
>could
>>>be called that. There were a lot of things in the way
>>>the program that operated that are very foreign to
>>>people outside of that world. I generally try to
>>>forget about it, and none of my current friends have
>>>any idea about it.
>>>
>>>There was some spanking there. The staff were allowed
>>>to spank as punishment. They could do this for
>>>basically any reason they wanted. The therapists were
>>>in charge, but in practice they backed the staff
>>>(Mormon college students). Especially the residential
>>>director there (who was a woman) spanked a lot, and
>>>hard. I later learned she and her sister got the belt
>>>growing up.
>>>
>>>There is a lot to tell and I don't quite know where
>to
>>>start. Please ask some questions if anyone is
>>>interested.
>
>Hi Kev, thank you for your post! Yes, it would be
>really nice to share my experiences. It makes me feel
>alien at times not being able to talk about it.
>
>Someone else posted a question, so I think we can talk
>about it here for now.

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Date Posted: 12:15:32 02/21/20 Fri
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's message, " Re: Reform School Spankings " on 07:11:48 02/21/20 Fri

>Hi Adam. I am new here, just checking this forum out.
>I am mostly female centric, as I have five younger
>sisters that got it a lot growing up.
>Reform schools, orphanages, and nun cloisters can be
>quite interesting, as the disciplining in these is
>usually kept quite secret.
>So I am always interested in these places.
>I am surprised that no one else has shown any interest
>in your post and experiences. I don't really
>understand this. Maybe because you are not
>disciplining any boys at this time? Sounds like you
>have a lot of knowledge and experience in this area.
>Sounds like you need to share your experiences with a
>caring person. Maybe we should communicate privately,
>if no other members seem to care about your post. PS I
>esp liked the part about the head mistress and her
>sister getting the belt as a child. But that is a
>subject for another forum, I know.
>I think that girls are disciplined much more often,
>and until much older than boys are. But I understand,
>boys need disciplining also. Both my Mom and Dad
>spanked me. And there seems to be a lot more grown
>boys that still want/need to lovingly get it. Not me,
>tho. I am just a disciplinarian.
>I have never spanked a male, and I have no interest in
>doing so. Only girls and women. But I have had many
>close, confidential family friends on here that have
>boys. As a man who has a strong interest in parenting,
>(elementary school teacher), I have learned a lot from
>these families, parents, and guardians. I become
>friends with some of the boys in these families, too.
>So I learn quite a lot. I am on the stern yet loving
>side myself, so don't be shy please.
>
>
>
>>I posted about this on another forum, and I thought it
>>might be of interest here.
>>
>>I was at a treatment center in Utah for high school.
>>Technically it wasn't a reform school, though it could
>>be called that. There were a lot of things in the way
>>the program that operated that are very foreign to
>>people outside of that world. I generally try to
>>forget about it, and none of my current friends have
>>any idea about it.
>>
>>There was some spanking there. The staff were allowed
>>to spank as punishment. They could do this for
>>basically any reason they wanted. The therapists were
>>in charge, but in practice they backed the staff
>>(Mormon college students). Especially the residential
>>director there (who was a woman) spanked a lot, and
>>hard. I later learned she and her sister got the belt
>>growing up.
>>
>>There is a lot to tell and I don't quite know where to
>>start. Please ask some questions if anyone is
>>interested.

Hi Kev, thank you for your post! Yes, it would be really nice to share my experiences. It makes me feel alien at times not being able to talk about it.

Someone else posted a question, so I think we can talk about it here for now.

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