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*First Published: Oct 11, 2011, 4:24 pm CDT
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Posted on Oct 11, 2011 Updated on Jun 3, 2021, 2:15 am CDT
As the dust settles from last night’s ban of controversial teen-pics section r/jailbait, Reddit users are in equal parts cheering , mourning , and wringing their hands .
But one thing is very clear: Nothing’s really changed.
Sexualized photographs of teenagers are right where they always were. If you want them, you can find them. Reddit still hosts more than a dozen sections that link to such images, from r/asianjailbait to r/malejailbait to r/bustybait.
These sections, like jailbait before them, are little more than link repositories. None of the images are hosted on Reddit. The majority reside on the servers of free image-hosting site Imgur .
Earlier today, I asked Imgur if it had any plans to remove the photographs (all of which are easily accessed here; while arguably legal, they’re not safe for work).
Imgur’s founder, Alan Schaaf, declined to comment.
“I’m not interested in doing a story about jailbait,” he told us.
No one seems to want to talk about r/jailbait, in fact. Reddit staff members still haven’t replied to our request for comments.
That leaves Reddit users and the media with nothing to do but speculate on the stated reason—that r/jailbait “threatened the structural integrity” of Reddit. Dozens of threads discussing r/jailbait have popped up across the site, many of them attracting thousands of comments. At least three have hit the site’s front page.
Everyone wants to know: Why exactly was the section closed down?
The most likely cause, as we noted last night , is that users of the subreddit appeared to be exchanging private messages requesting and somehow receiving child pornography. (It’s impossible to attach files through Reddit messages, so any file exchanges would have taken place elsewhere.)
But the subreddit’s creator, violentacrez, sees things differently. A lightning rod of controversy on Reddit, violentacrez has for years tested the boundaries of acceptable speech on the site. To him, allegations of child porn are nothing but a convenient excuse for the site’s staff to excise the controversial section and be done with it.
“This was never about the picture, or the [messages], or any [child pornography],” he wrote on Reddit. “It’s all about the admins trying to contain the outrage, and calm the masses of ignorant and angry redditors bringing them bad press.”
The closure has, in fact, come at the end of a bad couple of weeks for Reddit’s public image. Gawker’s Adrian Chen and CNN’s Anderson Cooper have hammered the site with criticism for keeping r/jailbait open.
Last week, in an interview with the Web podcast TJ and The Tux , Reddit cofounder Alexis Ohanian, who left the site in 2009 but recently returned in a more active role as an advisor and member of a newly created board of directors, directly responded to the allegations from Cooper.
“As long what’s going on is legal, there’s nothing we can do to effectively police it, because these things will always continue to exist on the Internet, because they’ll always continue to exist in humanity,” Ohanian told host Tony Tux.
While Reddit now has a large audience that’s hard to duplicate, it’s easy to set up a message board to post links with free tools like PhpBB.
Ohanian also said that parents need to educate their children that once they take an image and send it in digital form—as an email, text message, or social-network post—they should expect it to become public.
Kevin Morris is a veteran web reporter and editor who specializes in longform journalism. He led the Daily Dot’s esports vertical and, following its acquisition by GAMURS in late 2016, launched Dot Esports, where he serves as the site’s editor-in-chief.
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*First Published: Oct 11, 2011, 4:24 pm CDT
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Posted on Oct 11, 2011 Updated on Jun 3, 2021, 2:15 am CDT
As the dust settles from last night’s ban of controversial teen-pics section r/jailbait, Reddit users are in equal parts cheering , mourning , and wringing their hands .
But one thing is very clear: Nothing’s really changed.
Sexualized photographs of teenagers are right where they always were. If you want them, you can find them. Reddit still hosts more than a dozen sections that link to such images, from r/asianjailbait to r/malejailbait to r/bustybait.
These sections, like jailbait before them, are little more than link repositories. None of the images are hosted on Reddit. The majority reside on the servers of free image-hosting site Imgur .
Earlier today, I asked Imgur if it had any plans to remove the photographs (all of which are easily accessed here; while arguably legal, they’re not safe for work).
Imgur’s founder, Alan Schaaf, declined to comment.
“I’m not interested in doing a story about jailbait,” he told us.
No one seems to want to talk about r/jailbait, in fact. Reddit staff members still haven’t replied to our request for comments.
That leaves Reddit users and the media with nothing to do but speculate on the stated reason—that r/jailbait “threatened the structural integrity” of Reddit. Dozens of threads discussing r/jailbait have popped up across the site, many of them attracting thousands of comments. At least three have hit the site’s front page.
Everyone wants to know: Why exactly was the section closed down?
The most likely cause, as we noted last night , is that users of the subreddit appeared to be exchanging private messages requesting and somehow receiving child pornography. (It’s impossible to attach files through Reddit messages, so any file exchanges would have taken place elsewhere.)
But the subreddit’s creator, violentacrez, sees things differently. A lightning rod of controversy on Reddit, violentacrez has for years tested the boundaries of acceptable speech on the site. To him, allegations of child porn are nothing but a convenient excuse for the site’s staff to excise the controversial section and be done with it.
“This was never about the picture, or the [messages], or any [child pornography],” he wrote on Reddit. “It’s all about the admins trying to contain the outrage, and calm the masses of ignorant and angry redditors bringing them bad press.”
The closure has, in fact, come at the end of a bad couple of weeks for Reddit’s public image. Gawker’s Adrian Chen and CNN’s Anderson Cooper have hammered the site with criticism for keeping r/jailbait open.
Last week, in an interview with the Web podcast TJ and The Tux , Reddit cofounder Alexis Ohanian, who left the site in 2009 but recently returned in a more active role as an advisor and member of a newly created board of directors, directly responded to the allegations from Cooper.
“As long what’s going on is legal, there’s nothing we can do to effectively police it, because these things will always continue to exist on the Internet, because they’ll always continue to exist in humanity,” Ohanian told host Tony Tux.
While Reddit now has a large audience that’s hard to duplicate, it’s easy to set up a message board to post links with free tools like PhpBB.
Ohanian also said that parents need to educate their children that once they take an image and send it in digital form—as an email, text message, or social-network post—they should expect it to become public.
Kevin Morris is a veteran web reporter and editor who specializes in longform journalism. He led the Daily Dot’s esports vertical and, following its acquisition by GAMURS in late 2016, launched Dot Esports, where he serves as the site’s editor-in-chief.
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*First Published: Sep 2, 2011, 9:25 pm CDT
Posted on Sep 2, 2011 Updated on Jun 3, 2021, 2:59 am CDT
Social news site Reddit’s controversial teen pictures section, r/jailbait, quietly reopened this week after Reddit admins shut it down two weeks ago citing “out of control” moderators .
In a deal with Reddit staff, r/jailbait’s creator, violentacrez, removed those moderators on Wednesday morning. Admins promptly un-banned the section — with a caveat.
The section will immediately be banned again if any of the troublesome mods are let back in, violentacrez told the Daily Dot.
“We have some ideas about features to add,” Goodman wrote, “such as making it easier to find subreddits, making the site friendlier for new users, and allowing moderators to make decisions more democratically.
“We deeply respect the role moderators play in their communities, and we don’t use admin ability to override that unless it is absolutely necessary,” he added.
Reddit staff could not be reached for comment in time for publication.
Kevin Morris is a veteran web reporter and editor who specializes in longform journalism. He led the Daily Dot’s esports vertical and, following its acquisition by GAMURS in late 2016, launched Dot Esports, where he serves as the site’s editor-in-chief.
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