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Britain Braces for Fallout as Meghan and Harry’s Interview Airs
March 9, 2021, 7:54 p.m. ETMarch 9, 2021
The royal family has yet to respond to accusations from the couple, including that one of its members questioned how dark their baby’s skin would be, and that palace officials refused requests from the Duchess of Sussex for medical help when she felt suicidal.
“I don’t know how they could expect that after all of this time, we would still just be silent if there is an active role that the firm is playing in perpetuating falsehoods about us. I was silent —” “Were you silent or were you silenced?” “The latter. They didn’t want him to be a prince or princess, not knowing what the gender would be, which would be different from protocol, and that he wasn’t going to receive security.” “What?” “It was really hard.” “What do you mean?” “He wasn’t going to receive security? This went on for the last few months of our pregnancy where I’m going, ‘Hold on a second.’” “That your son and Harry, Prince Harry’s son, was not going to receive security?” “That’s right. And also concerns and conversations about how dark his skin might be when he’s born.” “What?” “And —” “Who — who is having that conversation … … with you? What?” “But I knew that if I didn’t say it, that I would do it. And I just didn’t — I just didn’t want to be alive anymore.” “Well, the way you’re describing this, it’s like you were trapped and couldn’t get help, even though you’re on the verge of suicide. That’s what you are describing. That’s what I’m hearing.” “Yes.” “And that would be an accurate interpretation, yes?” “That’s the truth.” “And what I was seeing was history repeating itself, but more perhaps, or definitely far more dangerous, because then you add race in, and you add social media in — and when I’m talking about history repeating itself I’m talking about my mother. When you can see something happening in the same kind of way, anybody would ask for help, ask the system of which you are part of, especially when you know there’s a relationship there that they could help, and share some truth or call the dogs off, whatever you want to call it.” “Your dad stopped taking your calls. Why did he stop taking your calls?” “Because I took matters in — by that point, I took matters into my own hands. It was like, I need to do this for my family. This is not a surprise to anybody. It’s really sad that it’s got to this point. But I’ve got to do something for my own mental health, my wife’s, and for Archie’s as well, because I could see where this was headed.”
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A year after Meghan Markle married Prince Harry in a fairy-tale wedding, she said in an extraordinary interview broadcast on Sunday night, her life as a member of the British royal family had become so emotionally desolate that she contemplated suicide.
At another point, members of the family told Harry and Meghan, a biracial former actress from the United States, that they did not want the couple’s unborn child, Archie, to be a prince or princess, and expressed concerns about how dark the color of the baby’s skin would be.
An emotional but self-possessed Meghan said of her suicidal thoughts: “I was ashamed to have to admit it to Harry. I knew that if I didn’t say it, I would do it. I just didn’t want to be alive anymore.”
Meghan, 39, made the disclosures in an eagerly anticipated, and at times incendiary, interview on CBS with Oprah Winfrey that aired in the United States in prime time. The interview was broadcast at 9 p.m. Monday on ITV in Britain.
In describing a royal life that began as a fairy tale but quickly turned suffocating and cruel, Meghan’s blunt answers raised the combustible issues of race and privilege in the most rarefied echelon of British society.
Here are the main takeaways from the interview.
Perhaps the best thing I can say is that I’ve always had the highest admiration for the queen, and the unifying role that she plays in our country and across the Commonwealth. And as for the rest, all other matters to do with the royal family, I’ve spent a long time now not commenting on royal family matters, and I don’t intend to depart from that today. I congratulate you on your very determined attempt to involve me in this story more than I’ve said all already. But I really think that when it comes to matters to do with the royal family, the right thing for prime ministers to say is, is nothing. And nothing is the thing that I propose to say today about that, about that particular matter.
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Boris Johnson Refuses to Discuss Royal Family Drama
Prime Minister Boris Johnson of Britain on Monday refused to discuss the drama engulfing the royal family, praising the contribution of Queen Elizabeth while declining to comment on damaging claims made by her grandson Prince Harry and his wife, Meghan.
“I have always had the highest admiration for the Queen and the unifying role she plays in our country and across the Commonwealth,” Mr. Johnson said at a news conference in London.
“As for all other matters to do with the royal family I have spent a long time now not commenting on royal family matters and I don’t intend to depart from that today,” Mr. Johnson added.
Pressed to say whether he believed the royal family, aside from the Queen, is racist, Mr. Johnson again stonewalled, saying that “when it comes to matters to do with the royal family the right thing for the prime ministers to say is nothing, and nothing is the thing that I propose to say today about that particular matter.”
Earlier on Monday Vicky Ford, minister for children, also refused to comment on the contents of the interview but added in an interview with LBC Radio: “there is no room for racism in our society.”
But at least one member of Mr. Johnson’s Conservative government spoke out against Meghan and Harry. “Harry is blowing up his family,” Zac Goldsmith, a mid-level minister of environmental and foreign affairs, wrote on Twitter. “What Meghan wants, Meghan gets.”
The issues raised are sensitive for Mr. Johnson who, during his career as a journalist, used racist language on some occasions, and the claims made in the interview reverberated around British politics.
On Monday Keir Starmer, leader of the opposition Labour Party, said that the allegations that had surfaced in the interview “need to be taken very, very seriously” because they are “allegations in relation to race and mental health.”
“For too many years we have been too dismissive and too willing to put these issues to one side,” he added.
Nadia Whittome, a Labour Party lawmaker, was more directly critical of the monarchy. “When Meghan Markle was accused of bullying, Buckingham Palace immediately announced an investigation,” she wrote on Twitter. “Now that Meghan has revealed comments about her child’s skin color, will they investigate racism in the Palace? I won’t be holding my breath.”
The two-hour interview conducted by Oprah Winfrey with Prince Harry and Meghan Markle aired on Sunday in the United States — first on the East Coast, with a repeat for the West Coast. On the main network that aired it, more than 17 million people watched.
Now, the royal mess is coming home. For once, England is getting the royal news last. The interview will be broadcast at 9 p.m. Monday on ITV in Britain.
If you missed it and want to enjoy the beautiful Santa-Barbara-adjacent setting and two hours of frank and exceedingly well-conducted conversation, here’s how you can watch:
Supposedly, anyone can watch, with no subscription, through ITV Hub. We would tell you to venture down to your local to watch, but apparently that’s off the table for a bit longer, sorry. ITV has said that the interview will also be available on demand after it airs.
Viewers in the U.K. who use a VPN, including YouTubeTV subscribers, can likely watch it on demand, if they have those levels of technical sophistication.
Those in the U.S. who missed it can stream all the revelations on CBS.com. Winfrey’s two-hour interview will only be available to stream for 30 days.
“As a black woman, she didn’t get it very easy within the royal family, and the newspapers weren’t exactly friendly about it either. So, for example, when Kate was pregnant, it was, ‘Oh Kate’s cradling her baby bump, it’s so lovely. And then when it was Meghan, it was like, ‘Why don’t Meghan stop touching her belly?’ Do you know what I mean? She got a lot of negative press over here, so I can see why they decided to denounce themself from the royal family because it’s just not worth the hassle, is it?” “So many things that are kept hidden that we don’t know about. I think it’s a good thing. As Harry said something like, I saw a bit where he said, history repeating itself and it could have been a situation like that. I think they done a good thing.” “But talking about how they were talking about their son, about how the skin color was, was like really hurtful to a lot of people, to be honest, especially because I’m black as well.” “She’s clever to get out of it while it’s still early because it could have built up into the same story as Princess Diana. So it is good for her. Save your family like anybody would do.” “Let’s, let us also be clear that when we talk about this issue, particularly the issue of members of the royal family having conversations about the color of Archie’s skin, that is racist. It is, for those who would like to see that as, oh, it’s just family having a conversation. No, it’s not. And that, that kind of thinking normalizes racism.”
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Black Britons Empathize With Meghan After TV Interview
On the heels of the interview, many Black Britons felt a measure of vindication, after Meghan and Harry made it abundantly clear that racist abuse played a role in their decision to leave the country, but also frustration that some in Britain were still skirting the issue.
For years, Black people have been calling out the problematic portrayals of Meghan in the British press, and the failures by swathes of the British establishment to recognize the issue.
Shola Mos-Shogbamimu, a lawyer and activist, has frequently spoken out about the racism directed at Meghan. In a heated back-and-forth on “Good Morning Britain,” she took Piers Morgan, the journalist and a staunch critic of Meghan and Harry, to task.
He asked for a reaction to what he called the couple “spray-gunning his family on global television” while Prince Philip, Harry’s grandfather, is hospitalized with a heart ailment.
“You want to deny that the royal family has any racist undertones or actions against the first biracial person, simply because you are in love with the queen?” Dr. Mos-Shogbamimu, who is Black, responded, as Mr. Morgan accused her of “race-baiting.”
“You can love the queen and be able to call out the actions done by the royal family when they have got it wrong,” she added.
Nadine Batchelor-Hunt, a British political correspondent, said that Meghan’s treatment — from the British media and also in her allegations of questions about her son’s potential skin color — embodied deep-rooted racism experienced by Black people in Britain. Ms. Batcheor-Hunt applauded Meghan’s “fearlessness,” and said that as a mixed-race woman, Meghan’s comments resonated deeply.
“In my family, we don’t really care about the monarchy,” Ms. Batchelor-Hunt said. “A lot of our ancestors were enslaved under the banner of the British Empire in the name of the crown.”
But allegations of racism from within the royal family, both from Meghan and Harry, had given the royals new relevance, she said.
“Seeing her speak so openly about it is really liberating,” she said, “which is why I think a lot of young people, particularly a lot of Black people, care so much.”
Many noted that the allegations made by Meghan during the interview also highlighted a blind spot in much of the British news media when it comes to race, with the ranks of royal correspondents nearly all white.
“This is a story which is predicated on race,” said Marcus Ryder, a visiting professor of media diversity at Birmingham City University. “And what we have is that we have a British media that has so far been slow to recognize that this is actually a racial story.”
Mr. Ryder also said the allegations illustrate the incongruity of a hereditary white royalty and British leaders’ stated commitment to diversity.
“We keep talking about issues of diversity, and how well does diversity sit with the hereditary principle?” he asked. “What she’s saying is that there seems to be a conflict.”
After Prince Harry and Meghan stepped down from their positions as senior members of the royal family, they were cut off financially and their royal security detail was revoked, the couple told Oprah Winfrey in their bombshell interview on Sunday night.
When the couple first announced plans to become financially independent, they said they would no longer receive money through the Sovereign Grant, a fund that the British government uses to pay the monarch to support the royal family. (For 2020-2021, the royal family received about $119 million from the grant.)
They had hoped to continue receiving money from Harry’s father, Prince Charles, who at one point funded 95 percent of the couple’s personal and professional expenses through his private estate, they said on their Sussex Royal website.
But Prince Harry revealed in the interview that he had been cut off financially from his family in early 2020, though it was not clear whether any support later resumed. He said that he and Meghan relied on inheritance from his mother, which Forbes estimated at $10 million, to pay for security.
“Without that,” he said, “we wouldn’t have been able to do this.”
When the couple moved to Canada in late 2019, they were given notice that their security would be removed because of their “change in status,” Prince Harry said. In March 2020 they moved temporarily to Tyler Perry’s home in Los Angeles, where he provided security.
“I never thought that I would have my security removed, because I was born into this position,” Prince Harry said. “I inherited the risk so that was a shock to me. That was what completely changed the whole plan.”
The exact protocol by which royal family members receive security is unclear. In 2011, security was revoked for Prince Andrew’s daughters Beatrice and Eugenie, partly because of an estimated £500,000 annual cost, Vanity Fair reported.
Meghan said there was “no explanation” why her son, Archie, would not be provided with security.
In a statement issued in January 2020 in response to news that Prince Harry and Meghan were stepping down from their royal duties, Buckingham Palace said that it “does not comment on the details of security arrangements. There are well established independent processes to determine the need for publicly-funded security.”
A transition plan detailed on the duke and duchess’s official website in Spring 2020 said that Meghan and Harry would continue to “require effective security to protect them and their son.”
“This is based on The Duke’s public profile by virtue of being born into The Royal Family, his military service, the Duchess’ own independent profile, and the shared threat and risk level documented specifically over the last few years,” the statement said. “No further details can be shared as this is classified information for safety reasons.”
It’s unclear what security costs for a member of the royal family. Security at Prince Harry and Meghan’s wedding, which was paid for by British taxpayers, cost an estimated £30 million, or more than $40 million.
It is estimated that each member of the royal family costs each British taxpayer around £1 per year. In return the royal family generates an estimated £1.8 billion a year in tourism revenues for the United Kingdom.
Before they stepped down, Prince Harry and Meghan had already generated a significant amount of revenue for the monarchy. Brand Finance, a brand valuation consultancy, calculated that their wedding generated £1 billion for the British economy in 2018 alone, including £300 million in travel and accommodation spent by foreign tourists and £50 million spent on merchandise such as coins, dish cloths and clothing.
Since stepping down from their royal positions, Prince Harry and Meghan have signed multimillion-dollar deals with Netflix and Spotify.
Hours after the interview was broadcast in the United States on Sunday, Britain was grappling with the shock wave rippling across the Atlantic, exposing a deep royal rift.
For some, the interview was a moment to reflect on the decidedly different public personas of Prince Harry and Meghan, as they broke with the dutiful silence expected of the royal family and brought a more American approach. But for many Black Britons, the interview offered a scathing assessment of the royal family and resurfaced barely submerged tensions over entrenched racism in the country at large.
“It’s very hard listening to the interview not to focus on some of the salacious details and the family drama,” said Marcus Ryder, a visiting professor of media diversity at Birmingham City University. “But what we’re talking about is a major part of the British state, it’s a major institution.”
The racism allegations made during the interview could have major implications for the monarchy, he said, where payments to family members and household expenses come in part with public funds.
“Once you realize that, and divorce it from the idea of the personal family drama, what you have is a Black woman who was the first, in the modern era anyway, to enter that British institution,” Mr. Ryder said, “and makes allegations of racism at the very top.”
Meghan’s statement that someone in the royal household had questioned whether her son would be “too dark to represent the U.K.” was a major problem, he said. (On Monday, Ms. Winfrey said that Harry had asked her to clarify that neither Queen Elizabeth II nor Prince Philip was the source of the comment on skin color.)
The Daily Mail, a British tabloid that lost a privacy case against Meghan last month, led on Monday morning with the all-caps headline: “I wanted to kill myself.” While it trumpeted Meghan’s comments about her mental health, it called the discussions about race “a sensational claim.”
Other major news outlets published biting commentary, while some social media users denounced the couple’s infidelity to the family and others firmly defended them. The reaction illustrated divisions between those who view Harry and Meghan as victims and those who disapprove of their behavior and of their willingness to criticize the monarchy publicly.
The palace has said nothing in the aftermath of the interview. It remains to be seen whether the palace will investigate Harry and Meghan’s claims as enthusiastically as it pledged to look into the claims that Meghan had bullied royal staff.
But many agreed that the interview could have wide-ranging implications for the House of Windsor.
“I’ve always said that the royal family would come out at best looking out of date, out of touch, perhaps unwelcoming,” Katie Nicholls, the royals editor at Vanity Fair, said in an interview on Sky News shortly after the broadcast. “But this is so much worse than that.”
The British press on Monday was galvanized, and divided, by the bombshell allegations in Harr
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