RIP AE [37 comments]
RIP AE [37 comments] 4pLaY (last poster: magorium) Site feedback
MarcusF Junior Member - Posts: 53 Karma: +11/-0#31 Posted on: September 04, 2023, 02:25:48 AM
I'm very sorry to hear about your health issues, I hope things get better for you.
I've enjoyed these forums for years and have learned a lot from them.
It runs on SMF, should be fairly easy to move the whole thing to a new host without losing data.
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#32 Posted on: September 05, 2023, 01:21:29 AM
Quote from: 4pLaY on August 31, 2023, 09:38:08 AM
Quote from: ASiegel on August 30, 2023, 08:23:18 PMQuote from: cdimauro on August 19, 2023, 06:35:47 AMIt would be good to copy the existing database in some place, and being accessible even in read-only mode.Well, I had offered to help rescuing the old AROS Exec as well.
We already lost the old aros-exec with an incredible knowledge base and now it's again same, unfortunately.
But some people prefer to watch things burn, I suppose.
It is not about watching anything burn, but your offer solves half the problem. Who is going to do the work of moving the site and setting it up? So far, not a single person has offered to take on the work of actually running and keeping it maintained.
Well, moving the site would depend on what needs to be installed at the destination to begin with (and what panel/software can be used, if any). Setting up SMF itself should not be that difficult to do (restoring a backup is another matter, though documented but, could proof not to be that easy as advertised).
Running it, I guess would be his (when accepting anyone's offer) responsibility thereby assuming keeping track of the dns records, domain name, certificate(s) as well as hosting and indeed there would have to be someone for maintaining that (not really my virtue).
I can at least offer to help out moderating when things are running. For the other stuff I have no experience other then some fiddling locally with virtual machines meaning that I could try and take a shot at moving stuff but that it could end up badly and for sure would need some help with the host side of things (I know just enough to do some serious damage in/with my ignorance).
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o1i Newbie - Posts: 39 Karma: +6/-0#33 Posted on: September 05, 2023, 05:18:29 PM
I am not the guy who likes forum software, but there seems to be a way to move a SMF forum to a static page:
https://mossiso.com/making-smf-static/
Might work..? And seems not to be too much effort.
cdimauro Member - Posts: 158 Karma: +26/-1#34 Posted on: September 05, 2023, 08:42:19 PM
Looks like. But who could try it?
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#35 Posted on: September 05, 2023, 10:08:42 PM
I am currently at the P of LAMP.
But besides that, if it is so dear to your heart then make a backup yourself ? I've already done so last month (need to update that btw) and though it does not contain the attachments nor fancy graphics it does contain all the textual contents, nicely tucked away in a single html per thread topic (4.1 MB zipped).
Scraping the attachments and graphics is also possible for instance with selenium webdriver but I wanted to use my own solution but have not been able to get around to login properly (hence my LAMP setup to be able to debug that). So next is a SMF install and try to debug but when reached the stage of having a proper working SMF install I could just as well give those instructions at the link from o1i a spin).
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cdimauro Member - Posts: 158 Karma: +26/-1#36 Posted on: Today at 06:24:34 AM
I'm to P as well, but it stands for Python and not PHP (I had little experience in the past, but only for some backend stuff). And very limited L & A experience.
However if a single HTML per thread takes 4MB then it looks like an impractical solution (especially for the old AROS-Exec, which had tons of threads).
Anyway, the above solution still requires database access. Maybe it makes more sense to dump it and then if someone has experience with SMF he/she can recreate the forum somewhere else.
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#37 Posted on: Today at 07:11:23 AM
Quote from: cdimauro on Today at 06:24:34 AM
I'm to P as well, but it stands for Python and not PHProfl.
But yeah. For downloading the threads python will do as well (i wrote it in Pascal but you can just as well use bash (wget/curl) or something else though respect the website and not hammer it -> about 40 minutes for all threads with a delay of 1 second per thread).
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However if a single HTML per thread takes 4MB then it looks like an impractical solution (especially for the old AROS-Exec, which had tons of threads).No, not per thread
. I meant for /all/ threads.Quote
Anyway, the above solution still requires database access.Not for having the textual contents only, as an example that you can feed wget/curl: https://ae.amigalife.org/index.php?action=printpage;topic=1154.0
Then, the most difficult part ... how on earth do we count numbers... hmz... no idea
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Maybe it makes more sense to dump it and then if someone has experience with SMF he/she can recreate the forum somewhere else.Having a (proper) backup makes more sense but does require a bit more work.
For moving SMF see also:
- https://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?PHPSESSID=9f7046aeff43d82eaec4087219990df2&topic=317614.0
- https://wiki.simplemachines.org/smf/Hosting_-_How_do_I_move_my_SMF_forum_to_a_different_host
And after which case the link from o1i could be used to make it dormant.
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