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MistressLydiaDOuleur , July 1, 2020 in Lifestyles and Relationships
Please take a moment to consider if this thread is worth bumping.
When I think of the term “primal fear” many things run through my mind. The wonderful movie Primal Fear that starred Edward Norton and that awesome ending scene that gives me goosebumps to this day. Admittedly, I looked at mankind a bit more animalistic in nature after watching this movie. This movie comes highly recommend to adults.
Another happy thought that comes to mind is the German speed metal band Primal Fear . The music is full of raw emotion and oftentimes makes me feel a bit primal. The vibes that the music gives me is almost animalistic and a kind of no holds bar feeling. Music is a big defining factor for me when creating a experience that is life-like and as real as I can make it. Having a person blindfolded and bound while listening to screams can be a bit terrifying to some.
A very memorable primal play scene was in the movie about the band, The Doors but the movies main focus was on Jim Morrison. I remember a scene in which guy playing Jim Morrison acted as if he was a wild beast and pounced upon this vampire-like lady who oozed sexual primal energy. I believe she was some sort of photographer or writer. In one fun scene they chased each other around her house naked and leapt into the air on top of one another while sometimes biting one another or scratching each others bodies in this powerful sexual exchange between two very primal beings.
Do we relate any of these types of behaviors has primal or just plain wild? Is the feeling of being primal feel freeing to you? Do you love how frightened you become during this type of play depending upon who you are in the D/s relationship or your place on the food chain of life. The fear that one might feel in primal play is one that is truly scary and heart dropping and sometimes has no boundaries once they have already been set and discussed prior to play. You are free to now be who you have always wanted to be. Free to prey and roam the world mark your property if you so wish.
As a Professional Dominatrix I admit that I do enjoy feeling primal truly dependent on whom the sub is. I enjoy the freeness and lack of high protocol at times and want to feel wild. Being a bit out of control at times and everything not so precisely calculated and more spur of the moment while acting upon your natural instincts. I enjoy biting and maybe I like pretending to eat flesh which could scares the hell out of people but makes me feel good. Sometimes, I imagine what it would be like if I could actually draw blood with my teeth and take a bite with a willing participant.. Would you consider this, being primal?
Sometimes I view myself as the predator in a game of catch. I may outsmart my prey using my mind and creativity or tackle them down physically with force or using restraints like ropes, chains or cages to confine my victim much like an animal does to its prey with force or agility. It’s a survival of the fittest.
Some of the subs that I work with are part of the puppy play community. They enjoy sleeping in a cage, eat what is given to them, and rewarded when demonstrating good behavior during training or play. If they make a mess on the floor then a reward or even a smile is NOT given. The human dogs in this kind of play usually seek their owners/ head of the class approval and acceptance.
Do we as humans take responsibility for our instincts that we were genetically born with? The answer is yes because we are now educated and able to communicate with words and able to speak to just about anyone online. You can’t go around biting people. Taking people down physically will land you most likely in jail. We as humans have laws and morals. For example we cannot kill our enemies. Morally and financially you cannot mate with all the women in your neighborhood/pride. In BDSM, it is important to know your sub and to both have a clear understanding of what the needs and wants are and defined in your D/s relationship. Soon you’ll really get to know each other in this type of play and know what one wants without words and through gestures. Reading a physical beings facial expressions and gazing into ones eyes for the answer without words is very intimate.
When I think primal the term primitive comes to mind and primal tribes. It’s amazing to see their ritualistic practices using dance, herbs, hunting, body scarification and piercing, and sometimes marking their territory as those in the wild and practice a real life survival of the fittest from day to day. In BDSM, we practice many or the ritualistic primal practices that primitive tribes did and some still do to this day. Ask yourself if you can procreate without choosing a life mate rather than moving on to the next one? Even though this is primal instinct we do have ramifications with our actions and responsibilities as a parents as animals do when teaching young about life.
Primal Fear the band was playing in the background. I enjoyed listening to Blood, Sweat and Fear.
in Primal play its not always about the fear for some, for some its more about the chase and the capture(often represented in capture and release play aka carp), the fight to regain freedom and then the eventual submission to the primal Dom. To free oneself from the fear to submit, and trust in the primal to be the alpha, the leader of the pack and for them to take that responsibility seriously.
Primal play is not always about eat or be eaten, but who is the leader, who has control, who was stronger emotionally or mentally or physically. Who can be trusted or respected and thus followed as member of their pack.
Are they worthy of being the primal Dom or are they just a beta trying to act like an alpha. Or perhaps a gamma in the pack seeking to take down the alpha and become the new leader of the pact.
there are so many nuances to primal play.. its hard to describe them all. An entire book could be written just about the beginning opening steps to start into it. learning about the different roles and labels and what they mean and how to play as them and then how to toss that all aside and be just a primal dom and sub with no boundaries or fears but what was set before the play.
to release yourself of all your civilized thinking, of all your human moral conflicts of what is right or wrong and just let the inner animal within come out and play can be a very hard challenge for some.
(you really should consider changing your font color when you post, it can be hard to read what you say if using the dark theme which might turn many away from even try to read or consider what was said.)
I've noticed you don't engage at all in what you post, is there a reason to that, Are you some sort of cleverly scripted bot?
So far your posts strike me more along the lines of "one twue way" types.
As someone who actually does practice the primal dynamic, there is rarely any fear involved. It's about instinct and relying on that lizard brain of ours to play with our partner. (This is from my experince, I am by no means an expert as I do practice a few different dynamics)
Sometimes we organize "hunts" in our group, we like to use nerf guns or a tag gun system to even the playing field, whoever gets shot at the most is the half of the group who becomes "prey".
It's all in good fun, in my group of folks we have sparring contests to see who gets to be the dominant partner for that day, we engage in camping outtings to get more in touch with ourselves and we also just hang out like normal people and play a game of d&d and become murser hobos.
Every group is different, every dynamic functions differently, that is all broken down by how things have been negotiated with the partner or party.
If there is an element of fear involved, then it's not consensual (which among all the groups I've observed and been a part of myself is a universal agreement.), Primal dynamics are always practiced by those who listen to our lizard brains more than we do with the rational human side of our consciousness.
If you growl at me, spring at me, and try to bite me, I have someone I want you to meet:
If you growl at me, spring at me, and try to bite me, I have someone I want you to meet:
*growls at you from behind, then pounces and opens mouth to bite but just licks your nose instead*
If you growl at me, spring at me, and try to bite me, I have someone I want you to meet:
An M-1911, very nice.. My husband traded in his glock for one of those because he didn't like the way the glock felt in his pants..it was too bulky he said..
I told him he should wear it in the back where he has more room..* Drum Roll, Cymbal Crash*
Seriously though,it feels pretty good in the hand though..THE GUN I MEAN!! well not to take away from his.... omg how did I get here? \o/
*growls at you from behind, then pounces and opens mouth to bite but just licks your nose instead*
AUGGHH! My nose got licked by a dragon tongue! Get me some wipes! Get me some iodine!
Steps into the thread, glances around briefly, then slowly backs out again. "Nope, nope, nope . . ."
Swear to God, I read “Primate Fear in BDSM” and was mightily interested.
Backs out right after @Orwar , but not before setting her fonts bigger.
Steps into the thread, glances around briefly, then slowly backs out again. "Nope, nope, nope . . ."
*follows to see where he is going just because... has to stick her nose in other peoples activities at times.*
*follows to see where he is going just because... has to stick her nose in other peoples activities at times.*
Backs out right after @Orwar , but not before setting her fonts bigger.
. . . You guys like to live dangerously, huh?
. . . You guys like to live dangerously, huh?
I am a dragon.. whats a little danger and excitement to a dragon.. *wanders off after seeing something shiny* Ohhhh a Shiny!!!!
*wanders back in* It was just another knight in shining armor trying lay the dragon... err meant slay the dragon..
Are you some sort of cleverly scripted bot?
Not clever enough, considering the unpleasant text format.
Not clever enough, considering the unpleasant text format.
The format vaugely looks like it's from a kink site I frequent.
The format vaugely looks like it's from a kink site I frequent.
Or they are using a third party program to write it all out then copy-paste it here. Such as using something like Microsoft Word or something similar. Since most of those programs use black text on a white background.
Or they are using a third party program to write it all out then copy-paste it here. Such as using something like Microsoft Word or something similar. Since most of those programs use black text on a white background.
Possibly, but that's a feature that can be edited withinn the program to make it not possible.
Either way, I'm too lazy to copy it all and google it to see if it's anywhere else / find the og writer and ask them about it and see what they say.
What is it with people using a forced black font?
For people using the dark theme in this forum, black is almost invisible on the background.
Don't force a font colour, and it will change to a lighter font on the Dark Theme.
Unless of course, you want to make it 𝖘𝖆𝖓𝖌𝖚𝖎𝖓𝖊 . ... 'Cause emphasis. Or stuff.
I don't see how the OP is actually discussing primal play in BDSM, and the use of the word "fear" is also confusing, and yeah, the font doesn't help in communication. You can't just grab a term out of context and then force your own spin on it... well, you can, but you'd probably be wrong.
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