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Highly effective in both 410 compatible handguns and shotguns, the 410-gauge PDX1 Defender ammunition features a distinctive black hull and black oxide high-base head; it combines four plated Defense Disc projectiles and 16 pellets of plated BB shot .
A TFB reader tested the penetration of the Winchester PDX1 .410 shotshell round in 10% ballistic gelatin . The PDX1, which consists of three 000 Buckshot sized discs backed by twelve BB-sized pellets, performs better than I expected .
In the June 2010 issue of Guns and Ammo, Dick Metcalf gives both the .410 and 12ga PDX1 ammo a positve review . In the article he states the the .410 load cronys at 752 fps (3 1/2″ Judge) and that a single bb penetrates 5 .5 inches of 10 percent gelatin while the disc pentrates 10 .5 inches of the same .
Winchester PDX1 Defender 3 Disks over ¼ ounce BB shot (product S410PDX1) . . . at 410 Bore handgun velocities fail to penetrate deeply enough to incapacitate a determined attacker . . . . This failure to stabilize and the subsequent failures to expand left the bullet tumbling at widely-varying penetration depths in the block . Bullets designed to . . .
I recently brought a box of 410 PDX1 ammo . went to the range with a H&R 410 full choke single shot shotgun . Shooting at 7 yards I was able to keep the three disk inside a 2 inch circle two of the disk were touching the thrid a 1/2 inch apart . The BBs kept a tight group most in a single ragged hole with a few flyers in the group .
Some pretty good looking penetration tests, 12" minimum and I would think having 4 wound tracks would have more stopping power than say 1 bullet with 14" penetration (unless shot through the side of the arm, maybe) Winchester PDX1 - 12" at 30ft .410 Revolvers - Guns & Ammo 13" at 6ft
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From a three-inch barreled Judge, PDX1-410 Defense Disc penetration is about 10 .5 inches in 10 percent ballistic gelatin . BB shot tends to penetrate only about 5 .5 inches . So, they freely admit that none of the projectiles make the FBI minimum penetration of 12 inches . And the BBs don't even get half way there .
Ammunition; Checking out the .410 Bore: We Test Seven Loads for Defense We started off by showing how ineffective birdshot was for self defense, then moved on to the main event: in-close patterning and penetration for buckshot, BBs, defense discs, and slugs .
I bought some PDX1 .410 shells on a whim for my Mossberg 500 in .410 . I know it was meant for the Judge, but still I wasn't impressed with the patterning (@20 feet) . I'm also not really too impressed by the concept (I wonder how deep the discs will penetrate), I'd rather go with buckshot or slugs if I'm forced to defend myself with a .410 .
The differences are dramatic, with the buckshot penetrating about 16″ of gelatin . In contrast, the .410 #4 birdshot load penetrates only 4″ of gelatin without a heavy clothing layer . With the layer, it penetrates just 3 .6″, scarcely enough to penetrate skin, and likely not enough to penetrate body fat on many humans .
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