Nudity Among Friends

Nudity Among Friends
Was thinking the the male was nervous about being naked around young people but your son is old enough not to be a worry (Apart from being one to his mother :-) )
Perhaps he only wanted to share the hot tub with the ladies :-)
Well if that's the case he got his wish. The boys were in the hot tub first and by themselves. We went in after they came in. They weren't being obnoxious but they weren't being shy either.
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Water is a good surrogate for clothing since it obscures the body enough that one doesn't seem so naked and exposed anymore. At resorts they suggest to first timers to start with the pool as a way to acclimate themselves to clothes-freedom. It really works- they meet and strike up conversations with other members and and soon their bashfulness wanes. "wanes" how poetic.

It works the same way with hot-tubs/spas/jacuzzies. I've seen guys get in wearing a suit but with a bit of coaxing ("you really can't enjoy the massaging effects with clothing on") they usually slip it off. Some will put it back on before getting out but many realize social nudity is not so bad and get out nude.

I always thought that if there was just some way to introduce people in mass to clothes-freedom in a way that was non-threatening- even pleasant- we could end the hang-ups that so many have about nudity. Even if they still preferred clothing afterwards it might make them more understanding and tolerant of those who do enjoy clothes-freedom. Right now the people in the US have no tolerance at all. If I was a European I would look upon US people as pretty immature in a number of ways.

Tolerance is becoming an issue in Europe and the U.K. Europeans think Americans are selfish, provincial, and violence prone. If you went to Europe, you would be surprised to see that they dress exactly the way we do.
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Well I think they are right- many Americans are selfish, provincial, and violence prone. They hear it in the news every day- and the current election campaign absolutely appalls them (and me).

As for prudery, I would expect it of Brittan- after- America came from there- but from what I've heard and read most Europeans and Scandinavians and Asians are much more tolerant of nudity than we- although maybe not as tolerant as they use to be. It seems that even over there American prudery has effected the younger generation. But all racy fashions- Bikinis, Mini-skirts, Hot-pants, etc originated over there.
Except perhaps for blue jeans, I think all fashion originates there. But it's difficult to generalize about Europeans. There are just as many, if not more, regional differences there than there are here, especially with languages. And people don't move around like they do here. And just like here, once you get past the leaders, they're pretty much the same as us. But that's the simplified version.
I was just thinking (again!) about this topic, "casual nudity" among friends. As I see it, actual casual nudity is really sort of exceptional. Most nudity with friends, such as lounging in the hot tub, is intentional. Nudity on the beach is intentional. Nudity in the shower at the pool or gym or maybe when you change clothes is incidental nudity, meaning brief and unavoidable nudity, whether or not anyone else is present. So, I'm not really sure exactly what casual nudity is, although I imagine having breakfast in the morning before you bother to get dressed, which I do, is casual nudity.
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My definition of "casual nudity" is nudity that is purely for convenience sake. For example, if you are alone in a house and get up to go to the BR or kitchen you wouldn't bother to put on clothes- there would be no reason to.

Well if you have good housemates, be they friends or family, and did the same they would accept your nudity as incidental and harmless rather than exhibitional or seductive.

We had a bad experience in our neighborhood a few years ago, which I've mentioned here before, so nudity at home is not something to be casual about, it seems. Anything to do with nudity seems to attract unwarranted attention from the news people if nothing more serious is happening, as you probably realize. Still, that being the case, and I'm certain it is, I wonder why public nudity events, mainly in New York and San Francisco, along with legal nude beaches in the U. S., don't attract more media attention.
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Death , why is that so? What's stopping you from joining your girlfriend?
And what's with the yelling??
I cannot walk around nude with her friends over because ive had sex with most of them before.
Me and my roommate are always naked, a lotta times our friends are over, too. *shrug* Nudity's never been a big deal with me. Hell, Angie's brought over some acquaintances of hers, people I had never met, and I'd just be putzing around naked, walk into the living room, "Oh hey guise. Name's Leina," very nonchalant. People are taken aback by it at first, but everybody that's ever been over has just shrugged it off.
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My only friend in elementary school had a neighborhood friend named Jeffrey. As he and I sat at the table talking about who knows what, he piped up with a story.
“One time,” he said, “the three of us were playing truth or dare. We dared Jeffrey’s little brother to strip naked and run around the basement, and he actually did it.”
Hold the phone, I thought. He did what?! His little brother willingly got naked in front of them with penis in full view and ran around?
I wish I could’ve been there and seen it happen. I wanted to be part of it. Later on, I’d bring up this story with my friend and ask him to tell it again in more detail.
This story of nudity became an obsession with me. But why?
I had a complicated relationship with nudity growing up. During summers in preschool, we often went “swimming,” which was really just running around the playground as the counselors sprayed us with the water hose. We had to be in swimsuits, however. I remember getting naked with the other boys while changing — no second thoughts about doing it.
When I got to my elementary school years, this attitude changed. At YMCA camps, I was horrified to see the other boys getting naked in full view of each other while changing to go swimming. Why were they doing this?!
To avoid this shamefulness, I always changed in the toilet stalls and dreaded any time pool day came up.
One day, I simply refused to leave the toilet stall because I didn’t want to see the other boys mindlessly getting naked in front of each other or have them see me naked. I stood in that stall forever — only to find that my summer camp had left the pool building without me! I ran across the lawn to the next building and burst into tears as the counselors panicked over how they could have left me behind.
Sometimes I think my attitude about nudity changed because of the shows and movies I watched at the time. They often portrayed nudity as something extremely disgusting (especially if someone was naked in front of the same sex), or as something really hilarious to be mocked.
I remember Alfalfa running around in his tighty-whities in Little Rascals . I remember Tommy Pickles ditching his diaper and running around naked in front of the other babies and convincing them to do the same in Rugrats . I remember Ed, Edd, and Eddy losing their speedos and comically covering themselves up lest any of the other kids see them naked.
The message I got from these shows and movies was that if anyone ever saw you naked in your most vulnerable state, you would be mocked.
Yet for some reason, I couldn’t link why nudity was shamed in society while the boys got freely naked and horse-played in the locker room. Talk about mixed messages! With the onset of puberty, the concept of seeing other males naked and being naked with them became eroticized.
A lot of my fantasies, while sexual to me, were not inherently sexual in their content. I liked the idea of simply getting naked with the other boys and going skinny-dipping, for instance. Or doing a naked dare just for laughs, like my friend and his neighbor did.
I suppose, in a sense, I was longing for innocent camaraderie and horseplay with other boys. To my subconscious mind, however, such fantasies were not so innocent anymore.
Like Tom wrote in his blog , I’ve never much desired sexual intercourse with men. Throughout my life, however, my erotic thoughts and desires have centered almost entirely on nudity. Only with fast internet service have I found a whole new world of pornography, and the crazy world of nudism opened to me.
Welcome our newest blogging brother, Eugene! And for discussion below: what was your relationship with nudity growing up? Was nudity normalized or eroticized after puberty? Have you ever wanted to experience platonic nudity with other guys?
I’m a 30-something still trying to find my way in the world. Lover of all things creative, I am a drawer with an intuitive mind while also a deep thinker. I can be a person of extreme opposites: one moment a lone wolf, the next a social butterfly; one moment joyful and optimistic, yet sad and melancholic the next. As I came to terms with my SSA I met fellow SSA Christians and formed deep, intimate bonds. I’ve always longed for brotherhood and, at last, I have found it after years of social isolation. I am glad to be part of this community of bloggers and share my stories and struggles, joys and sorrows, dreams and longings.
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I am amazed to have found this and this speaks very loudly to me. I am grateful to discover I am NOT alone!
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Nudity, what a struggle this has been for me. Junior high and high school locker rooms were frightening. But, extremely enjoyable. I got to see the objects of my affection—penises. But, it was fraught with extreme anxiety as I sought to control my growing member. In fact, I unfortunately popped one one day, but I thought my towel covered me well and by the time I got to the shower I would be back to flaccid. Horrors, a half-boner in the communal shower-the fear of every young SSA man. Another naked guy stared at me and into my eyes-he evidently liked what he saw, but I was so embarrassed. PTSD. Fast forward to married manhood. I joined a gym and the communal locker room was unfortunately eye candy for me. It was a part of every workout-I wondered in the parking lot what I would see today. Actually, my visits were a shot of porn (something I could not see anywhere because of Covenant Eyes). I reasoned in my Christian man mind, “I’m just looking, no harm, no fowl. I wasn’t actually lusting, just enjoying the parade.” The heart is deceptively wicked. I canceled my gym membership and found other avenues for exercise. I’m not completely sure, honestly, if any SSA afflicted man should go to a gym. I just know I couldn’t handle the nudity.
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Oh boy… I seem to have double-commented on several posts. Sorry! When my comments did not appear, I figured I had done something wrong and written again. I am learning computer skills and obviously not very tech-savvy.
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This has been an amazing read. Just discovering I’m not alone in this has been very powerful.
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Wow I could not agree with you more Eugene. Very similar things have happened to me in my perceptions and actions. I too have longed for good fun times with males that have often in head been naked in nature. Skinny-dipping has been on the brain forever, not sure if I should admit that, but I related a lot with your post man. I appreciate your honesty. Bless you man
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Thank you Alex! And don’t be ashamed to admit skinny dipping was on your mind, it very much was on mine too! Glad it resonated with you, I’ve met a lot of SSA men who have had longings for mutual nudity with other men with both sexual and non sexual connotations. Its really quite common so don’t worry, you are not alone.
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Thanks Eugene. I appreciate the support. I tried explaining some of this to guys who I would consider to be my closest guy friends and they were pretty defensive and didn’t understand. I didn’t really expect them to necessarily, but that’s life. I will just keep walking with God and praying for a solution I guess.
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I actually did skinny-dipping a couple times in my teens. Just with a few guy friends. We knew each other well enough so it wasn’t awkward, but it was kind of uptight, everyone was worried about making sure everyone else knew they weren’t gay. It was fun, but it would’ve been more fun if everyone could loosen up and just have fun. I’d do it again if I got the chance.
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The exotic becomes erotic. I grew up in the days when swimming “in the bare” was required for boys and men. I can remember only one swim meet where we had to wear suits to the fury of a few of my team mates who feared for their times. Being that all boys had to shower after PE from junior high through high school, being naked around each other was expected like our dads grew up and their dads before them. Thus, male nakedness was not exotic to us. That is why we older men are not ashamed of our sagging, wrinkling bodies. Yet, younger, more fit men fear being seen in the bare.
Also, since female nudity was nearly never seen when I was growing up, and it was very difficult to get girly magazines (when every store owner knows your dad), the unclothed female form was exotic to us and thus became erotic. I’ll never forget the night of our honeymoon, the moment I got to see and touch my first nude female. The most wonderful moment we both still remember together. I’ve so enjoyed in deep thankfulness to God who made my very own ‘her’ ever so erotic to me, even after all these decades together. God knows how deep I wish all men could have what I have and thrill at growing old with their own wife.
And God said, “It is not good for man to be alone. I will make one who is perfectly able to help and reliever him.” (Genesis 2:18).
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I’m almost 18 now, but until I turned 16, I absolutely refused to take a group shower at the rec center. Soon after I turned 16, I saw some college aged guys having multiple types of sex in the shower at the Rec. I was disgusted about that for a while, but privately it seemed exciting and secretly I was kinda jealous. A couple months after that, I started having my showers at the rec naked. At first it was still awkward, but eventually it got to the point where I enjoyed being naked with other guys and even tried to get attention from others in the shower at the time. At the time I was behaving this way, it never even crossed my mind that my behavior would be recognized as gay, and I never thought of myself as gay. but looking back, this may have been one of the catalysts that started to stir up my unexplored feelings
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Well, that’s one way to get into exploring it. lol Did you feel like it was healing for you or was it just making you feel like you were acting out?
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I’m not even sure. At that time, I didn’t even know what I was looking for. I just wanted attention from guys. I thought that would make me feel better. But just like drugs, the more you have, the larger amount you want the next time you look for it
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I can relate to that. Sometimes I’ve had an urge for guys to see me but not so much that they’ll have sexual attention towards me. Its like I want them to see me and acknowledge that I have a penis and everything below the belt that makes me masculine and a man.
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Welcome to our community, Caleb! How awesome for you to find us; thanks for diving in and sharing so vulnerably. Hope you continue to share! You are not alone.
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As a boy, in the locker room before and after swimming lessons I also hid the most private parts of my body. I envy men who can be naked around other guys without feeling any shame or sexual arousal. It’s similar when it comes to peeing next to another man at a urinal, especially if you know the other person (for example your boss).
When I see other men (especially men I’m attracted to) who are able to pee in such situations or be naked around men (gym shower, sauna…) without any shame, I feel a strange mixture of,
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