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Nudity in public school physical activity classes
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"Willison H. Gormly" < hamr...@midusa.net > wrote: > > When I was growing up in the United States in the fifties and sixties I > only attended sexually segregated physical activity classes, except for > during the dancing unit. In 1978, Title IX went into effect. I was > surprised when an eighth-grade boy informed me that in his school boys and > girls were changing clothes and showering together. The law was vague until > the courts stated that in changing rooms and other places were nudity was > allowed, separate, but equal was acceptable. >
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> I am 33(male) and there was no co-ed nudity in my school either. In fact, its > hard for me to believe there was co-ed nudity anywhere. The male showers were > communal. The females had stalls with a small changing area outside them. We were > all required to take a shower but this was only sporadically enforced. We tended > to avoid the showers not because of an an aversion to nudity but because there > were no blow-dryers and we didn't want to go to our next class with a wet head. > Silly I know, but most of junior high was. > > philip...@my-dejanews.com wrote: >
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La...@digiscape.com wrote: > I am 33(male) and there was no co-ed nudity in my school either. In fact, its > hard for me to believe there was co-ed nudity anywhere. The male showers were > communal. The females had stalls with a small changing area outside them. We were > all required to take a shower but this was only sporadically enforced. We tended > to avoid the showers not because of an an aversion to nudity but because there > were no blow-dryers and we didn't want to go to our next class with a wet head.
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So 1978 was a very interesting year. Any 33 year old people out there who experienced coed showers, or was this school the only one that was uh, confused?
Wish mine was about 12 years earlier!
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>> Even though I am preaching to the chior. Can any one give me a good >>reason why in public school hysical activity classes should not be allowed >>to preformed in the nude, if the student is comforable with being nude.
>Because there might be parents who do not allow it.
In the USA, there are parents who don't want their children to learn about evolution. Any serious school system teaches it anyway.
> In article <783evg$ 7h...@news.midusa.net >, > "Willison H. Gormly" < hamr...@midusa.net > wrote: > >
> > When I was growing up in the United States in the fifties and sixties I > > only attended sexually segregated physical activity classes, except for > > during the dancing unit. In 1978, Title IX went into effect. I was > > surprised when an eighth-grade boy informed me that in his school boys and > > girls were changing clothes and showering together. The law was vague until > > the courts stated that in changing rooms and other places were nudity was > > allowed, separate, but equal was acceptable. > > >
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Summerskills School is a co-ed school here in the UK for children aged between 5 and 18 and they operates a "clothes optional" policy with swimming lessons.
When I was at school, we had segregated changing rooms connected by a door, which was an Emergency Exit and so it was left unlocked. After the teacher had left us to get changed after the lesson, we would "dare" each other to run into the girls changing room and the girls would do the same.
One day, there was a lot of giggling in the girls changing room. Suddenly, the door was opened and all of the girls walked into the room nude. The next lesson, the boys did the same. Pretty soon, the door was left permanently open and we used to effectively "share" one room.
I was only about 8 or 9 at the time, but it has made a lasting impression on me and was my first experience of communal nudity.
I'm a little late to this thread but it was an interesting one and I wanted to mention it to my girlfriend and respond with both a male and female perspective:
We've both lived in the US all our lives and neither has ever heard of Co-ed anything involving nudity at the highschool level. Colleges, perhaps, somewhere, but not up to age 18. The situation at high school today is very anti-nudity even in same sex situations much less co-ed.
I graduated HS in 1987 and she in 1994. I had elementary grades 1-8 education and high school 9-12; my recollection is that we began changing for phys ed in the 6th grade and thats when the showering began. It was mandatory, and just the old big communal room at each place. I had to take phys ed up to 10th grade and it was the same policy all the way through. I dont ever remember the teacher having a hard time enforcing the mandatory policy with a classmate; it was so impossible to imagine getting out of it that nobody tried.
I saw the girls locker rooms at both my elementary school and high school and they were exactly the same as ours except the communal room had I think a curtain hanging over the entrance; ours was open. The girls had to shower after phys ed too. I know they always went in 5 minutes sooner than we did because I guess they required more time.
My girlfriend Lori's experience was middle school 7-9, then high school 10-12. Her middle school required showers, their room was communal with those miserable cylinder poles that have 5 or 6 nozzles shooting water out all around it. Her middle school gym teacher had the cruel but effective tactic of not giving any towels out until every girl was either in the showers or had a given a valid excuse - this was really using peer pressure!! (Imagine having the wrath of all your friends on your back if you dragged your feet getting into the showers).
Her high school experience is the interesting one, though, and a possible example of what schools today ought to be doing. Phys ed was required only up to 10th grade for her also, and like many students that was her one and only year she took it. Showering was not required, BUT the teacher would record who showered and give extra credit for it on the grounds that the student was exhibiting good hygienic practice. A very good idea, I think...in theory.
In her experience, it did not work out that well. Extra credit be damned, most of her classmates, maybe 3/4, never took a shower once the whole year. Of the others (and her classses averaged maybe 25 students) 6-7 started out each quarter taking showers but half of them would soon stop (some after one single time --toooo awful!) Each time only about 3 or 4 would stick it out the whole quarter. Lori was trying to get into a private college upon graduation (she did! and a good one) and wanted as high a GPA as she could get, so she decided she could stand it for one year if it meant getting one grade higher on her report card.
Her school's locker room was unfortunately particularly open, like a big rectangle. She could wear a towel to the shower room okay, and in the shower room would be only the same familiar few, that wasn't so bad; she didn't mind her teacher's presence particularly - the woman made sure their showers lasted longer than 5 seconds but did not seem to go out of her way to observe them. But upon leaving the showers she felt that an unnecessarily large number of the class took advantage of the situation to glance over at her and the others for "a free look" as they dried off, which they usually did right outside the shower entrance. There it was at least better than at your locker next to other people sitting around already dressed. As she said, the room was too damn open and that was a large reason why only a few in the class participated, she thought.
The worst was days when, as sometimes happened, you were the only one showering as you then became the sole focus for idle looks. The more that showered the easier it was for any one person, because you stood out less. She became good at drying off very quickly and getting to her locker as fast as possible.
Anyway, she stuck it out all the way through the year and got nothing lower than a B for her phys ed grades, which was better than she had normally gottten in middle school (she is not at all athletic) so she felt it was worth it. The other girls that showered were like her, trying to maximize their GPAs, or in a few cases were so bad at phys ed they were just trying to ensure getting a C. There was almost nobody that took a shower on occasion just for the sake of washing off and getting clean - the classes seemed to become strictly either the regulars or the absolute boycotters. She thought that without extra credit virtually no showers would have been taken and none by her either.
So, although it was not a huge success at her school (this was a semi-rural public school in northern pennsylvania by the way) doesn't it seem like an idea that schools should adopt? It IS doing something extra, and it IS demonstrating good hygiene. I think it would at least keep the idea of taking a shower with members of your own sex from becoming completely exttinct. Perhaps with locker rooms offering a little more privacy (and individual stalls would of course help a lot) this concept could really take hold. If there are any parents out there that want to do something more than bemoan the step by step retreat of nudity from society, perhaps you could take action by proposing this to your school district somehow.
>On Tue, 19 Jan 1999 20:29:10 -0600, "Willison H. Gormly" >< hamr...@midusa.net > wrote in rec.nude:
>>Can any one give me a good >>reason why in public school hysical activity classes should not be allowed >>to preformed in the nude, if the student is comforable with being nude.
>Because there might be parents who do not allow it.
In that case, nudist parents should prohibit their children from wearing clothing in gym class. They can cite promotion of bacterial infection as a reason.
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In 1944, a children's sports school of the Muscovoretsky district opened in the premises of the former military hospital on the Warsaw highway.
In 2011, SDYUSSHOR No. 49 Trint became the winner in the competition of the best sports schools among the SDYUSSHOR.
In the program to receive a support grant for the SDYUSSHOR, which was held under the auspices of the Support Fund for Russian Olympians, the school became a winner in 2011. And in 2013 she won first place.
In 2013, 19 pupils and students Trints performed in various national teams of Russia at the world and European championships.
Many main competitions in Moscow and Russia are held in the sports halls Trints. But the main advantage of the school is people – coaches and employees working in it, the traditions that they store and convey to the young, who are replacing them.
The Moscow Government and the city sports department created all the conditions for creative work, both the coaching and drug staff and athletes. Trint has an excellent material and technical base, 3 basketball and 2 gym, a dining room, a cafe, a conference room, a well-equipped medical office, and most importantly people who know their job and loved children work in them. The school has its country sports base, 20 km from Moscow.
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The abbreviated official name of the institution: structural unit of SSHOR No. 49 Trint named after Yu.Ya. Ravinsky GBU Moscow Basketball Academy Moskomport.
Director of the structural unit of SSHOR No. 49 Trint named after Yu.Ya. Smirnova Karina Yuryevna was appointed Ravinsky GBU Moscow Basketball Academy.
80% of the coaching staff of the Trint school is its pupils. Now 1800 athletes aged 7 to 18 years are engaged in the school, with whom 12 honored coaches of Russia, as well as coaches of the highest and first category. The teams of our school have repeatedly become winners and prize -winners of all -Russian and international competitions.
Over the years of their existence, “trint” came out of both outstanding athletes, winners and prize -winners of the Olympic Games, world and European championships, and graduates who did not climb the sports Olympus, but to whom sports helped a lot in the formation of the character and the choice of further life path.These are the honorary president of the Russian Basketball Federation and a member of the Central Bureau of FIBA ZTR Sergey Chernov, and professor, doctor of technical sciences, head of the department of the Moscow Aviation Institute, ZMS of the USSR Georgy Lebedev, and professor, doctor of medical sciences, cardiac surgeon Leonid Popov, and Sergey Zasorin – general director of SU -77, which builds unique underground structures in Moscow, and sports commentator Roman Skvortsov.
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History of secondary school No. 71 Timiryazevskaya:
Since 1946, the Timiryazevskaya school has been leading its own history. The school occupied the building of the almshouse of the Moscow Patriarchate in Zuevsky Park, not far from the Savelovsky railway station.
Until 1964, the sports school was complex, where, along with basketball, other sports were also cultivated. By the decision of the city authorities of that time, the school received the status of a specialized children's and youth school of the Olympic reserve (SDYUSHOR) in basketball for the education and professional training of highly qualified athletes in teams of masters, in youth, youth and national teams of the country.
In 1995, the building of the sports school was returned to the Moscow Patriarchate, staff and students lost their own training and competitive base. For a long time, the school rented a sports hall in the Olimpiysky sports complex on Prospekt Mira. But despite the difficulties, the Timiryazevskaya Sports School No. 71 remained a forge of basketball talents.
In 1997, the first stone was laid for the construction of a sports complex in the Vostochnoye Degunino district of the Northern Administrative District of Moscow.
In early 2007, the long-awaited building of the Timiryazevskaya Sports School No. 71 was built and put into operation. Pupils of the sports school got the opportunity to train and play, spend leisure time and rehabilitation in their native walls, pupils of past years – to meet, and the team of the sports school – to systematically, purposefully conduct their activities not only in solving the problems of training professional basketball players, but also in educating holistic harmoniously developed human personalities, called the younger generation.
In January 2014, the school received a new status, the State Budgetary Institution Sports School of the Olympic Reserve (GBU SSHOR) No. 71 Timiryazevskaya of the Moscow Sports Committee, in which it currently conducts sports training for boys and girls born in 1997-2007.
According to the order of the Department of Sports and Tourism of the City of Moscow dated February 5, 2018 No. 27, the State Budgetary Institution of the City of Moscow Sports School of the Olympic Reserve No. 71 Timiryazevskaya of the Department of Sports and Tourism of the City of Moscow became one of the structural divisions of the State Budgetary Institution of the City of Moscow Moscow Basketball Academy Department of sports of the city of Moscow.
Abbreviated official name of the institution: a structural subdivision of secondary school No. 71 Timiryazevskaya of the State Budgetary Institution Moscow Basketball Academy of the Moscow Sports Committee.
Selivanov Oleg Sergeevich has been appointed director of the structural subdivision of secondary school No. 71 Timiryazevskaya of the State Budgetary Institution Moscow Basketball Academy of the Moscow Sports Committee.
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The school dates back to 1946. It was founded in the Sokolnichesky district of Moscow, which had three sports departments: cross-country skiing, skating and basketball. Then it was better known in sports circles as Kuibyshevskaya or Youth School No. 1 of the Kuibyshev region.
On September 1, 1961, by Order No. 184 for the Kuibyshev District Department of Public Education of the City of Moscow, the children's sports schools of the Sokolnichesky and Zheleznodorozhny districts of Moscow were merged, as a result of which the Children's Sports School No. 1 was created. A.T. was appointed director of the sports school. Pozharsky, the coaches of the basketball department were: N.A. Maksimova – senior coach, coaches – P.P. Belyaev, A.A. Puzikov, L.V. Bogdanov.
In total, 12 training groups were created, the main coach was the Honored Master of Sports N.A. Maksimova, who worked simultaneously in the Youth Sports School and with the national youth teams of the country. She managed to bring up a whole galaxy of outstanding players, having received the title of Honored Coach of the RSFSR for her activiti
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