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Fixes for sitting and swimming height while wearing NiOverride High Heels.
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Is there any way i can remove the high heel effect on boots using nioverride? Any npc wearing those boots have improper head tracking (looking above the head when In first person)
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https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/94573

if both hdt and nio are active on a pair of shoes, then u'll have the problems. so u'll need to remove the hdt spell effects from boots. it's easy, just open the esp in tesedit and remove the effect on the armor
Wouldn't this make boots sink into the ground? 
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My main issue with NIO heels is that it screws up NPC headtracking.

If an NPC is wearing heels, they will look above the player when talking to them, instead of right at them. This looks really strange and is off putting.

I don't think HDT heels had the same issue.

Is this a bug that can be solved?
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Are you talking about first person?
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It happens in first or third person, but it's more jarring in first person.

The NPC headtracking doesn't adjust for heels, like it does for height. So (regardless of scale difference) NPCs wearing heels will look above you.

I'll get some screenshots.
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i'm getting this too. noticed it for some time and was starting too suspect niofixes caused it. tested recently and it is this mod causing people to look over my head. also i've also always had the problem, as a few others earlier stated, that this will work for horse riding, but Only after getting on the horse and taking off the boots and re-equipping them. then the toon sets at correct height on horse. this does help immensely w/ swimming height. also w npcs crouch praying in nio boots. i have mods that add more npcs, more idles, and more AI. and will often see someone praying. without this fix mod they will float like 7 inches off the floor if wearing nio boots. this fixes that.

i've never had much issues w/ setting in chairs tho but that may be because i used this mod before when i used HDTheel...
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/53995/

really appreciate your work tho and thank you. but i don't ride horses or swim that often, so not sure it's worth the cloaking and spells getting attached to everyone around me. i see log spam sometimes.
and the re-equipping of boots and looking over my head ect

Edit; oh also, some female guards in nio boots will walk to their guard idle markers (wall lean, stand w/ hands on hips ect) just fine but when they take position on the idle they sink into the ground. this stops if i remove niofixes. it may be the female guards have male animations but not sure. just wanted to report it
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i guess maybe it comes down to performance. many people switched from HDTHeels to Nioverride because HDTH ran scripts so often on boots calculating height ect, and nio didn't and was "built-in". so it felt like a better, more lightweight option to switch to NIO., . but if we need a mod like NIOV fixes that adds cloaks to npcs around us, then which is really more resource efficient and more lightweight?
does adding NIOVHH to our load make having nio boots about as resource heavy as the old HDTHeels?
This is a known issue with NIO, but overlooked because most people dont really pay attention.
If you have any HDT-High Heels mods installed, NIO will screw up the default feet position of you character, hence you will often end up with your feet in the ground if you change shoes via hotkey or you stand up from a chair etc.
Other issues are that when swimming, your char will be slightly above the water with the torso, when on a horse, she wont sit prperly o it but float a few inches above, depending on which hight your heels have.
Try installing Nio HH fixes. Can help with some issues.

Have you or anyone else found a fix to this yet?
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"If you have any HDT-High Heels mods installed, NIO will screw up the default feet position of you character,"

i'm wondering what that means? i have the old hdthighheel.esm still installed because i have couple mods dependent on it, BUT i've converted almost all shoes over to just nio. certainly any that i still use. does that mean that just having hdt.esm installed and nio together will cause issues? or just nio alone causes these issues? because i get most u spoke of. i can remove hdt.esm probably without much work

also niohh fixes mod seems to always stop working after awhile. it never works for horses unless i change boots while on horse. but it usually works for praying, swimming ect. but eventually it'll stop, and i'll have to clean save and reinstall.

one thing i wanted to mention is this addon to help fix the nio sneak float...
https://www.loverslab.com/topic/101520-nioverride-high-heels-sneaking-crawl-patch/

this works very well for the floating sneak
about the npc headtracking, USE XPMS, not the xpms(extended). It messes up the headtracking when wearing heels
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some heels make characters sink in the ground, what causes this?
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i'd like to use this but i seem to recall reading that cloaking spells are bad for the game or something. bettering using aliases...or something like that lol. does this mod use cloaking spells?
"Although equip Ni Override high heels would reset the body scale I have config my character in ECE "
Anybody find a soulution to stop NIO from rescaling player character every time when boots are changed ?
any methods beside turn to 0 bEnableEquippableTransforms=1.

Ok, i find a solution.For everybody using newest version of ECE. Dont scale Your character using Height(Skeleton) use second option just Height,so your scaled character dosent depend on sceleton and NIO works as it should.
cheers ;)
Can you make this work for princess horse riding? It doesn't by default.

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