Naked Old Man Swim

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Were the lifeguards naked at the Y's or schools or whereever as well ?

I still am incredulous that this went on before the mid'70's, or on swim teams, and I am not naive or have lived a sheltered life. My parents didn't belong to the Y and we took swimming lessons (coed) at the outdoor city pool in the summer . The senior high and jr high didn't have pools. (Small town).

Although it's been brought up here on the site that it's natural and gives a guy freedom, I wouldn't be comfortable going to the Y now and jumping off the diving board naked or seeing naked men jumping off the diving board. (And, especially since 60% of Americans are now considered overweight. Then again, if people went to the Y more often this wouldn't have to happen !! LOL.) I don't think I'm conservative.

And I wouldn't like a lifeguard watching me. Too weird.
Our school didn't have a pool but when I took swimming lessons at the Y in 1955 our instructor (the aquatic director) was a man of about 25 and was nude as well. In fact, no clothing was ever allowed in the pool. (The reason they gave if anyone ask was that lint would clogged the filters. I have no idea if this was true, but it answered the question.)

During regular swim sessions there was no actual lifeguard but there was a rule that we kids couldn't swim unless there was someone over 16 in the pool. I remember sometimes in the afternoons we would have to go to the gameroom and talk one of the older guys into coming in with us.

The aquatic director's office was next to the pool and he could see what was happening. Normally he wore shorts and a T-shirt because he had to come and go out front but I remember one time one of the kids pretended to be drowning and he came running out of his office and jump in- clothes and all. He was so pissed when he found out it was a joke he banned the kid for a month.

You know as I think about this now, I realize how strange all this sounds now. Today most people would think there was something really perverse about adults and kids being naked together. But at the time it seem quite normal- we though of the older members like they were uncles or big brothers. And as I noted in a post down below, homosexuality and child molestation were things people didn't think about back then. Maybe we were just terribly naive, but I never heard of anything unsavory happening.

waukegan illinois ymca swimming lessons we had also been nude when i was 6 years old in 1955 - i did think it was weird.
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Andreatta: When boys swam nude in gym class
Andreatta: When boys swam nude in gym class
David Andreatta | Democrat and Chronicle
The lengths to which Greece schools have gone to spare teenage students the anxiety of changing clothes for gym class has men of a certain generation shaking their heads.
“You should have seen what they made us do in gym,” Bill Reeves, 67, said. “My son and his generation think we’re full of it. We can’t convince them it actually happened.”
But it did happen. What you are about to read is true. 
“When you got into high school, and you used the pool for gym, they had these rules and everybody had to follow them,” Reeves recalled of his days at Charlotte High School.
No running on the deck. No horseplay. No diving in the shallow end. Take a shower before swimming. Swim naked. No chewing gum…
“They made us shower first, then we’d all stand in line and march into the pool nude,” Reeves said.
It may be inconceivable to anyone under 50, but nude swimming was standard for high school boys in Rochester and in many American cities and states until at least 1970.
Girls, who swam separately from boys, were spared the indignity, although they have their own horror stories of school-issued swimsuits that clung like cellophane.
“It was the weirdest thing in the world,” recalled Chuck Napieralski, 67, who graduated with Reeves from Charlotte in 1968. “You can just imagine standing there in a line with your hands across the front hiding yourself. Once you got to the pool you just jumped in.”
When the practice ended is almost as much of a mystery as why it began. Nude swimming in gym class, it seems, was like what happens in Vegas: It stayed in gym class. Did the school board know it was happening? Did parents?
You’d think forced nudity in public schools would generate a newspaper headline or two, something like, “Superintendent faces bare facts about skinny-dipping, sentenced to life in Attica.”
But Democrat and Chronicle archives contain no mention of it. Perhaps boys believed if no one talked about it, it wasn’t real.
“You think back and say, ‘Why the hell didn’t we ask why we were doing this?’” Reeves said. “I would love to know why they did it.”
The practice appears rooted in the opening of the first indoor pool in the United States in 1885 at the Brooklyn YMCA, which was then for men only. Citing wool swimsuits as breeding grounds for bacteria, and their fibers as a danger to the pool’s filtration system, the organization required patrons to swim in the raw.
In 1926, the American Public Health Association published the first guide for swimming pool management. It recommended men swim nude and women wear suits "of the simplest type." Those guidelines remained until 1962.
After that, it was a matter of custom. Andrew Saul, a nutritionist and author from Rochester, wrote of swimming nude at Charlotte High School as late as 1970.
“Back dives were especially revealing,” Saul wrote in his 2003 book, Doctor Yourself.
Perhaps school administrators thought nude swimming built cohesion between young men. Maybe it did. Few activities foster solidarity like man-to-man defense in a naked water polo game.
Or maybe they were as oblivious to the distress nudity can inflict on adolescents as syndicated columnist Ann Landers was in 1974 when she offered this advice to a 15-year-old boy who wrote complaining of having to shower after gym class:
“You need to talk to a school counselor and learn why you are so uptight about being seen naked…,” she wrote. “If you look around you’ll find the vast majority of the guys who are showering are not in the least bit self-conscious.”
Ann was full of more rubbish than a pool filter before the invention of nylon bathing suits.
“Of course it was awkward,” Napieralski said of his high school experience. “I certainly didn’t like to do it. You just had to do it.”
Nowadays, it seems, students don’t have to do anything they don’t want to do, including changing clothes for gym class.
They’d rather stink up the school by third period than deign to undress in front of their peers, and administrators are willing to let them in the name of sensitivity.
Physical education has undergone a lot of changes over the generations, but perspiration as a byproduct of participation isn’t one of them.
For teenagers still enduring the discomfort of practicing good hygiene, consider this advice: Stare straight ahead, think of what your grandfather's generation braved, and recite this line from Finding Nemo, a beloved film of your generation:
“Just keep swimming. Just keep swimming. Just keep swimming, swimming, swimming.”
David Andreatta is a Democrat and Chronicle columnist. He can be reached at dandreatta@gannett.com.

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