Naked Mom With Kids In The Bathroom

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A mother who bathes with her preteen sons drew harsh criticism after she appeared on a TV show to defend the practice.
In a segment on the UK's "This Morning" on Tuesday , journalist Lauren Libbert explained that she used to take baths with her own mother as she grew up and that she's continued this tradition with her two sons, now ages 10 and 11.
"If they are happy with it, then we'll have a bath together maybe once a week," Libbert told the show's hosts. "This isn't a big issue in our house at all. It's something we've been doing for years and it's something that's really enjoyable."
But another guest on the show — a life coach and fellow parent named Ben Edwards — took issue with this habitual co-bathing.
"Her experience as a child bathing with her mum ... is very different to having two boys at 10 and 11 who are just about to go through the stages of one, going to secondary school, and two, going through their puberty ... it opens up to a lot of confusion," he argued.
The interview prompted a wave of reactions from viewers on social media. On Twitter, at least, the public seemed to side with Edwards.
" Why does morning tv wind me up so much?" one Twitter user wrote. "I'm sorry # ThisMorning but this woman absolutely should not be bathing with her sons at that age!"
Libbert's story makes for a shocking, clickable headline, of course, but it also drives at a real parenting dilemma: Is there a fixed point in time when it's no longer OK to be naked in front of your kids?
Child psychologist Tovah Klein, PhD , director of the Barnard College Center for Toddler Development and author of " How Toddlers Thrive ," told INSIDER that is a very common question among parents.
She added that there's no "exact age" to stop being naked in front of children, since personal matters may factor into the equation — like the parents' own upbringing or differing cultural norms. But she explained that there's usually a natural turning point.
"Usually before the age of six, more like around 3, 4, or 5, children become very aware that their body is part of [their] self, and they want privacy. So sometimes that's around toilet training, sometimes it's a little later in development. [They're] discovering their own body and that their own body belongs to them."
"Sometimes children will say, 'oh yuck,' or 'Daddy, put clothes on,'" Klein said. "A nother sign would be [when] they get super interested in the parent's body and there's a lot of touching ... and sometimes children just cover their eyes or they kind of look away."
When kids start showing these signs, it's good for parents to start covering up. They might wear bathrobes after showers, for example, or close the door when getting dressed and encourage kids to knock before entering.
"It's a time for parents to show respect to the child by pulling back on the nudity. It puts up a boundary that says, 'I love you, and I'm separate from you. You're your own person, mommy and daddy, we're our own people,'" Klein said. "We live in an era of helping children understand that their bodies are great things and they should love themselves but [their body] is for them. It's not for others to touch or invade."
Limiting nudity at the right time also helps kids learn about social norms, she added. If a 7-year-old is at a friend's house or at school, for example, she should know that it's not normal (at least in Western culture) to walk out of the bathroom wearing no pants.
If kids don't naturally develop that desire privacy until they're a bit older — as seems to be the case with Libbert's sons — it's not inherently wrong or harmful, Klein said. But it is uncommon.
"I think it depends on the family. I think it's unusual for children again past a certain age — let's say 6 or 7 maybe 8 — to be fully comfortable with that. But that's not to say that in some families they might not be."
Libbert, to her credit, did tell the hosts of "This Morning" that she was prepared to end the occasionally shared baths if her sons indicate any discomfort.
"If they start to have an issue with bathing together ... I will take their lead," she said. "So if suddenly my older son decides that he doesn't want to be naked around me or he doesn't like seeing me naked, then I will take his lead. It's up to him. But at the moment we're all very happy and very comfortable."
Libbert did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
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Prepare yourselves for some shocking news: the Mister sleeps in the nude. No undies. No socks. Totally bucky. Me? I get too cold for such things. But I do walk naked from the shower up to our bedroom in the morning to help minimize the Towering Tower of Towels that tend to collect up there.
What I am trying to say is, we are a naked family. All of us: the perfect, unmarred children and the two slightly less pristine adults have no qualms about showing what nature gave us in the light of day. It's not like we're doing the Macarena and scrubbing the floors in our birthday suits, but if they ask, we let the kids shower with us.
My mom was always a naked mom. My best friend's mom (who was like an aunt to me) used to horrify her daughters and their friends by popping out of the bathroom in her full jiggling glory and shouting "naked woman!" While I wouldn't go that far (or would I?), I don't really see anything wrong with nudity in the home until it starts to bother someone.
There will come a time when the kids just say "yuck," but for now, no one even seems to notice.
The other day I had this conversation with Oliver.
Oliver
Why are dad’s nipples bigger than mine?
Me
Because he’s bigger than you. As your body grows, everything grows.
Oliver
Why don’t girls have nipples?
Me
They do. They’re on their boobies [yes, somehow this is the word that stuck].
Oliver
But I don’t mean the kind that point down.
Oliver
People with boobies have nipples that kind of point down because you know, boobies are kind of heavy and they pull down.
Me
That’s true. How do you know this?
Oliver
Because I’ve seen yours and I always see you trying to lift them up.
Ta da! The kind of observations you set yourself up for when you walk around exposing yourself to 4-year-olds.
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