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Anwar Iqbal Published
June 2, 2012
Maybe you should enlighten yourself with the statistics of rape in Pakistan! Not only on women but also on the street kids, and lets not forget the tribal customs! Then talk about the western world.
Its really a daring and thought provoking article. There is a need to discourage the late marriages in order to save our youth to be astray!!! What i feel which is becoming the real cause of loosing our values.
thn men who dont like their daughters or sisters to be stared at SHOULD NOT make life misereble for other women...................please.
The answer is actually quite evident. Hiding behind Islamic laws, but never actually attempting to better oneself with their guidance. Majority of the Muslim men talk about women having to cover themselves, but not one of them will ever say, I do not have to stare at a woman.
The bottom line being, even if a woman walks naked, men should have the decency not to stare at her or to take her dignity. This is the discipline which Islam teaches.
Turns out you're just as oblivious of the women living in Pakistan. You think that Pakistan is a harrassment and rape - free society? The point of this article isn't to let women strip in public but to give them the choice to do as they please without anyone emotionally or physically dictating them.
People like you will always succeed to get on my nerves. It might be self satisfying to act according to the Islamic Law, but its not a must for everyone. AND NO, Islam might be the right way of life but it is NOT the only right way of life. If this were true Pakistan would be a first world country supplying aid to Australia, Sweden and Switzerland. You are NO ONE to decide.
I think the author is right in pointing out that men aren't comfotable with how women are, however its not only the men, even women discriminate against women. I used to live in an apartment in Islamabad and there were always those 'aunties' sitting in their windows or balconies spying on these girls just to mess around with their lives. A very contradicting society indeed. Men looking at pornography, harassing girls and committing homosexual acts is all normal but when a girl/woman does, its all very bizarre and shameful. Pakistan has a long way to go in liberalizing women. Its the 3rd most dangerous place for women in the world afterall.
Ok. So what happens if someone does not want to follow this prescription, and they want to do it differently. for example say a woman who wants to be the bread winner, or a male who does not want the Prophet to be his role model. Is there an allowance in Islam for those people? Nope, that is where Islam fails. You cannot force choices on individuals. You cannot force rolemodel on individuals. You have to let them live their life any way they please. If not, you will have a society like Pakistan and the Arab world. Sorry to bring you the truth.
Give the old man a break, or atleast overlook his senility...but your obsevation is sound.
You should better look into the reason why Bibi Ayesha declared war against the 4th Caliph and then decide whether she did right or wrong rather than denouncing her just because she declared war against the 4th Caliph
Dude, the same is true for our country, India, as well
We need to be more like the European / Russian and N. American countries. Enough of these old ways.
well that classic case is everywhere in muslim majority countries!
Oh people, Islam is the only religion that calls for modesty when all else is corrupt and moving with the times. Rasullah said once a person's modesty has gone, let them do what they want. This is an integral part of the faith and the systematic campaign to undermine every aspect of Islam from women to Halal food makes Muslims want to discover Islam for themselves and practice the faith more.

I ask you, if Islam oppresses women, why are so many women in the west and elsewhere becoming Muslim? Why do they choose to wear the Hijab and even the full niqab/veil? They realise that society is over-sexualised and Islam stops everything from the root. Prevention is better then a cure. Alcohol has some benefits but Islam stops it.

Looking at beautiful women for men has temporary benefits but what happens when men cannot control their desires? They will commit sexual crimes that are rampant and widespread in the west and is becoming more common in Muslim countries too.

Muslims have made things difficult for themselves such as a ridiculous amount of dowry / mahr needed for marriage etc...

And the so called moderate Muslims, please do no fall into the trap of liberating Islam as it is mentioned in the Quran, "...enter into Islam completely"

Look at the UAE, their women are covered from head to toe but are they oppressed? They have separate gathering for women are the also oppressed driving a mercedes car and the latest Gucci handbag? Our minds need to literally be washed wear women are used to satisfy the lusts of men.
Oh people, Islam is the only religion that calls for modesty when all else is corrupt and moving with the times. Rasullah said once a person's modesty has gone, let them do what they want. This is an integral part of the faith and the systematic campaign to undermine every aspect of Islam from women to Halal food makes Muslims want to discover Islam for themselves and practice the faith more.
They don't know me except from my comments. When they vote on them it ricochets back at them...and defines the status of women in their homes and lives. That should be obvious even to you.
All those negatives suggests that the women in your homes are maids, servants and slaves rather than monarch, princesses and queen of the household...!!!
Your analogy is wrong. Both doctors and lawyers in western countries have equal rights when it comes to marriage, divorce, testimony, inheritance, getting beaten up, and more. Islam does not give women equal rights. For example a man can divorce a woman very easily by uttering "talaaq" three times. not so for women. When parents dies the woman gets only half the inheritance of the male heirs. When did 1/2 become equal to 1?
Things are changing with time and are getting norms of the society. Almost every parent wants to send his/her daughter to school. At least it is their wish.
In 70's norm was to wear the veil now it cant be seen even in the villages of upper Punjab.
Wearing jeans by a gal was taboo a few years ago, now it is a norm at least in the big cities.
I do not argue what is wrong or what is right? Women have now more rights.
I dont know why women do not move freely. Nobody harms them.
Well Written---in depth Analysis!!!

We should not draw line of western and eastern women. The answer is very simple. A women even a man should dress in a way which is considred to be the dress of a civilized person in that society. I am not demanding for vail in muslim world but exposing body is bad attitutd. In a society like pakistan a moderate women should wear full cloths with Dupata on head.
Non-sequitur. Does not follow. Poor logic. Apples and oranges.
@Romi: Actual there is a lot going on. It is called primitive license: Satiation, not ease. Please study primitive culture some more. Civilization and clothes go together. Modesty is an adornment worth treasuring.
"females have similar rights but different roles they are adapted to and there is no question about it,"

When the men decides the role of women and which can not be questioned ( means it is imposed on them). where is the equal rights. this is hypocrisy.
i wud just say that the author has not actually blamed islam for any thing wrong infact he is saying that islam has to be fully implemented equally on men n women both...a girl can go out in special circumstances for education,job etc,islam doesnt restricts her from that but its the responsibility of the society n men to give them respect !!!
The more this disinformation campaign against Islam proceeds the more intelligent independent thinking people want to verify from the Quran for themselves...and realize the beauty, knowledge, and wisdom it offers.
Religion and religious issue are sacred for those who followed them and not to others.keep remember plz.
The author of "Muslim women: Neither hidden nor exposed" has clearly depicted the real picture of the place women in in Islamic States!
Hello everyone,
The article is absolutely right, the mans are guilty for it some time we treat women like dirt you have example of treble areas that whats going on with women there, having sold women like goods they thinks that they are human as well as offend we give them freedom beyond measure. in order to make society prosper we need to gives equal rights to women hope no buddy mind..
Thanks
I am glad somebody tried to find out the real fact behind muslim veil.
Well written but some "facts" were definitely exagerated or should I say misinformed
Stop drinking, stop fornicating, stop small minded unethical, liberal fascist, one liner answers to the Islamic tradition and laws of 1400 years. If you think ways of western women_is the answer then you are in fools paradise. No one is perfect, that does_not mean one should justify destroying all boundaries.
Very insightful write-up. The ending says it all: Women are always at ease with themselves. The problem is some men are not at ease at all when there are women around. Will they ever learn to accept women as they are?
Could not make sense of the article at all. Started out as an excerpt from a Nancy Friday's book , proceeded on to being a live commentary on some art exhibition and ended up in nothing. Thoughts flickering through ones complex neural linkages might not necessarily make sense to others, especially if you don't proof read your first draft...... A total waste of time.
What is the purpose of publishing such a piece? Do you want to bring the same shamelessness and corruption to our women that plague western women?
The islamic culture of segregation of sexes was based on the clear commands of Allah documented in quran and sunnah not on early marriages. All the muslims were/are required to keep their gazes down. Those who cannot/ could not afford marriage are/were required to fast more.
I don't think most educated men have problem with women working or expressing themselves, like one of the interviewee said, we are all Muslims and we can't deny that, we have restrictions as an Islamic society and not just on women but also on men. And yes we probably need to enforce the restriction more properly on men! men get away when they shouldn't. I think its mainly because of lack of Islamic education in our system. Yes due to economic pressure, we can't marry early anymore, but that should change once we are on the right economic path. What I am trying to say is, if men are doing wrong, doesn't mean women should also start doing wrong, two wrongs doesn't make a right.
There are always these unwritten rules which people are following. Always a hide and seek going on and the ones who master these unwritten rules somehow are the successful ones in any culture. __ Something which always surprizes me in every culture is not the lack of freedom or excess of it but the points where the ''criticism'' or ''blaming'' comes. __ A man will never get the same criticism as a woman nomatter where one goes. Blame mainly lies towards a woman if the house is unclean, child upbringing is bad, bad manners , verbal abusive language is used by a woman. The list is never ending, what sort of decor you have of the house, what sort of people you invite home, what sort of routines you have at home. How long your children are out of the house everything in the end if goes wrong a woman is blamed more than a man.
“Yet I want more freedom. I want to be free of all ties, emotional or physical.” SPOT ON!
A classic case of the Qur'anic injunction's mis-translation, and mis-interpretation. You have a long way to go growing up in understanding your Creator's instructions and mandate, and its implications in denial and rebellion against His Will...Cheers!
After the Chinese Revolution in 1949 the idea of the parents choosing a husband or wife for their children was abandoned. What I object to about arranged marriages are the parents keeping their children children all their lives.
"You can't make your own decisions. Daddy and Mummy will make your decisions for you." Maybe that is all right for women who do not have to leave the house for the Real World.
Poor women living in Muslim World.
I feel sorry for them.
Pakistani People ( society ) are very complex.
They want freedom , however they still maintained Islam is solution to all their problems.
We should change the name of our country--- from Pakistan to ARABISTAN..T or may ISLAMISTAN..thats the solution.
Men are not at ease in the presence of women because this is not a Western Society and Islam teaches us to stay away from the Na Mahram. How would you feel once some one is staring at your daughter or sister.
Another Western view of the Muslim society. In the West, equality for women means copying men. They haven't asked women what they want, their media has been telling women what they want.
Bigots will speak very loud against such issues and talk against western women! when they themselves will ogle shamelessly and try to pass themselves before their young ones as the holiest. There is a great difference between the translation of a verse and the interpretation of the verse. Men with weakness in their own character will exploit the verses from the Koran to interpret for his vested interest!
Good article, it exposes men's hippocraci. Women are most of the time happy with the things the way they are, men try to impose their belief on others. We have two separate systems one for our family women and another for the women we don't know. Women treat all men equally.
Men are threatened and confused , Islam never was tested as now . Islam 's early women fought battles ( Bibi Ayesha commandered jang ay jamal) . Women are part of muslim community and Pakistan needs educated women in every field and walik of life . women who trangress have to answer for themselves before their maker. So men grow up and do not force your cultural absurdities on Islam .
It actually showcases the shamelessness and hypocrisy of some (not all!) men, that is its purpose according to my interpretation.
I think this is a good article. Most (not all) mulsim men are totally hypocritical, liers and pretend they want women to behave in certain ways while themslves indulging in all possible 'wrongdoings'. I think author highlights that point well.
I guess there is no benefit from discussing what religion demands and what culture demands. On another issue, I think it is hoping too much that people will use their higher brain function to keep the impulses generated by certain parts of brain and hormones, in proper check. What I feel sorry the most is for ladies who spend their almost entire life confined to a house, often very small house.
to create awareness among the people to avoid bad things..its bit obvious i guess
I am not being an ultra-conservative person here but how are men and women equal? Men are stronger, rougher more physical while women are kinder, gentler and more sensitive. Women have several rights in Islam that bring them level to males like they don't have to spend earned money on the family, they can keep it for themselves. But, they are suited to different roles. To say that men and women are not equal in Islam is like saying doctors and lawyers are not equal. They have similar rights, but different roles they are adapted to and there is no question about it.
I think that is why they call it Islamic Republic. Whatever that means. When I lived in Lahore in the 80's things were much better than now. It is hard to see any woman there now. I dont know where they hide and why? Unless women do not ask for their freedom and be happy shackled to religious doctrines,no one is going to give it to them.
Hazrat Khadija was a businessoman.. Hazrat Umme Ammara saved the Prophet's SAW life in a ghazwa.. still not the rolemodel u'd want for your daughter sir??
The author says: "And neither is she a fully liberated worker, like those in the West, and therefore lacks the confidence that economic freedom brings."
Living in Washington he should not be so oblivious to the plight of women in the West. Just reading simple statistics on rape and aggravated assault against women would put things in proper perspective. A worker is not 'liberated' in the real sense of the word. The plight of working women in Pakistan, especially those of lower middle or poor class is not hidden from anyone. Far from bringing any economic freedom or confidence it just brings them misery, as they are forced by their lazy husbands to work even more.
All this discussion by men on appropriately covering the woman's body under the guise of maintaining decorum only reeks of an excessive fascination with the woman's body. There are so-called primitive tribes in the Amazon rainforest where people walk around with barely any clothes on, and nobody bothers. The men show more maturity and ease with women around unclothed than in modern societies with fully covered women. Grow up, men.
What's new in this article? Aren't the things mentioned in it are already known to the society?
Being a muslim we must not cross the boundaries of Islam.The real happy successful life can be achieved by acting according to Quran and Sunnah.May Allah help and bless us.Ameen
Western women don't get groped on buses and sidewalks. I wear a hijab and live in the west, and I can tell you for a a fact that it is far easier to be a women in the west than in Muslim man's world. Here, men keep their eyes and their hands to themselves. I can walk whereever the heck I want without fear, and YOU, a MAN, have no idea what that feels like. You were born with that kind of freedom, but I had to come to US to get it. Please explain me why I, with my hijab, can't be allowed to just walk to the grocery store with dignity, without being molested. And why is it that you are more concerned about "ways of western women" when "ways of Muslim men&quo!
simply agree with that, but at the same time we need no to follow extremists who are against women receiving education
The issues mentioned in the write up are well known to every sensible person. The writer has tried to exposed a very well known fact but failed to give any conclusion and or solution. For example, are we lacking proper legislation as for law is concerned? Is our media or civil society, ulemas doing enough to carve out this evil from our society. If not then we all must initiate a collective effort to help out women.
I have never roamed around in bazars for eve teasing because my mother (woman) has brought me up in such a way.
I will emphasize that women, specially mothers, hold a great responsibility in shaping up this society.
Hahaha...brother Mustafa Razavi , Anwar Iqbal is a Washington based Pakistani,so this is not a western view. He discussed a very insight view of a so ca
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