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There's a lot more to Rome than just military history y'know
Get back in the line you barbarian scum 💪
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It’s a meme about Irene of Athens, Who blinded her son after he tried to take power from her. She also declared that she had the title “Emperor” instead of “Empress”. She was later usurped.
Byzantines were fucking brutal. Leo V betrayed and castrated his best friend after he made him co emperor, then sentenced his rival to be executed by strapping him to a gorilla and throwing him into a furnace, where either the heat or the rampaging gorilla would kill him
Nothing about Irene was note-worthy other than her ending Iconoclasm. Under her reign several times the Roman military was heavily defeated. In southern italy and at the anatolian border. Major concessions were given to the arabs after heavy defeats.
This is not helped by the fact that taxation was lowered significantly during Irene’s reign in order to win support from the people. Militarily however, these setbacks were incredibly detrimental.
Irene should have knew this would backfire on her. The pope took this chance to “claim” the roman title as a result. Irene should have avoided blinding Constantine. She could still have plenty of power if she still gave Constantine a facade of power with her continuously ruling as regent. Blinding him only made her seem less legitimate. She was a woman too, so she knew the odds were stacked against her. This move wasn’t worth the risk.
I'm kinda glad that Charlemagne declined the marriage proposal between him and Irene. Who knows what could have happened to him?
I get a bit confused by the Irene apologists out there.
She blinded her own son in an intentionally brutal way so he'd die a horrible death.
Then you get the whataboutism about Constantine killing Crispus and not getting the same flack because he's not a woman.
Constantine is possibly the most influential historical figure after Jesus and Mohammed, Irene bankrupted the state and is only praised by contemporary sources because she ended the first iconoclasm.
Crispus most likely impregnated his step mother. Constantine VI was duped into a divorce/elopment by his mother trying to destroy his popularity.
Constantine still has a tainted legacy on account of his fillicide.
Yes, but you fail to take into account big mommy Byzantine milkers
She blinded her own son in an intentionally brutal way
As opposed to intentionally blinding her son in a caring, motherly sort of way.
Constantine also had more sons and thus a plan for succession.
I get a bit confused by the Irene apologists out there.
She blinded her own son in an intentionally brutal way so he'd die a horrible death.
I mean, I don't know about others, but as someone with no skin in the game, it seems kind of unfair to criticize her for this especially. Horribly mutilating or even killing people who try to take your power/title is pretty standard for any ruler.
I just can’t get over how fucked in the head she must have been to have done this.
Well her son was 26 at the time, unpopular, and had blinded one of his own generals for no good reason. So no more fucked in the head than her son.

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