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Mom travelling with 22 yr old son - hotel w/two beds?
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Thinking of a trip in early Dec. with son - ideally, I'd like to be in 5th or 6 arrondissement and thinking of a hotel with a room with two beds. Do not need two rooms/connecting room, one room is fine, just want two beds. Anyone have suggestion?
Just ask for twin beds. Most hotels just push two beds together to make a full or queen. I just booke Hotel de l’Alma in the 7th and requested twins with no problem.
twin beds are easy to find at nearly any hotel in Paris . A twin room is two single beds. A double room is one double bed (often two twins pushed together).
If you want an American style room with two double/full beds in it, I know for sure they have those at Crowne Plaza Republique and at some of the Holiday Inns. I like the Crowne Plaza. It's a nice hotel and a convenient location, next to a metro hub. But the area isn't the postcard charm most Americans seem to want - it's more urban feeling.
pretty flex -- I have in mind a 4 star hotel. Not on a *very* tight budget.
Stars in Paris don't mean what you think. They specifically relate to what amenities are available like room size, languages spoken by staff and if there's a gym. Stars in Paris do not refer to quality (though often they are similar as a property that is meeting the criteria for 4 or 5 stars is probably trying to be high quality).
In many traditional hotels in France , the two separate beds in a twin bed room will be pushed together and share one headboard. So basically it feels like one big bed but with separate bedding for each twin bed.
I don’t know if you & your son would be comfortable with that set up — it would not have worked for me when my son was that age.
The international chain hotels are more likely to have the type of twin bed set-up that Americans are accustomed to.
You can get a nice size twin bed room at the Paris Pullman Tour Eiffel , for example.
Or if you want a more traditional hotel closer to the center, I would suggest you try the triple room at the charming Hotel Left Bank St Germain in the 6e. It is one large comfortable room, with one double bed and a separate single bed across the room.
(I stayed there years ago with one of my then-teens, and the set-up was perfect. The hotel has been refurbished since then, and the location is really great.)
Yes, I was just going to make the same point as #6. Those twin beds are pushed very closely together as most hotel rooms are fairly small, or comparatively so.
If you do consider 2 rooms, that would give you 2 bathrooms, which would come in very handy.
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Really, if your budget is not very tight (not sure what means in € or USD), given the size of Paris hotel rooms, two rooms is a much better idea. For example, you could probably get two rooms at Hotel Excelsior Latin and have comfortable full-size beds. The Crown Plaza Republique has rooms with two double beds.
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High School Graduation Trips (A VERY Controversial Topic)
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Once again this year I am posting this warning to kids who are planning to be in Cancun as their High School Graduation present or trip paid by their parents or with their own earnings.
This will create a lot of controversy for the next few months but here we go again this year. (Note I added some valuable advice from others last year along with further comments from me on the bottom of this post)
As many parents feel their kids should get a gift for graduating High School. This is all fine by me, but there is absolutely no reason this gift should be a free trip with fellow graduates or friends to Cancun for an all inclusive week of pure fun and pleasure. Parents do not realize in the USA that in Cancun the kids can drink at the age of 18 legally, and many 17 year olds do not have any major problems getting into night clubs and receiving all the alcohol plus more.
Cancun is a fun city if you know what and how to do it with concern for your personal health and welfare. The problem though is that there are many in Cancun who do not have the same feelings. They will do all possible to take advantage of this kids and I really use the word kids in a kind way.
There have been incidents in the past where the kids coming to Cancun without adult supervision were seriously hurt, raped, and even killed. Now this is not to say that this will happen to everyone, far from that. But the likelihood of something happening such as described is highly possible when ones defenses are down to the consumption of all the alcohol they want and no questions asked. There is also high likelihood that these kids are able to get all the drugs they want and get in trouble with the police for drug possession.
Cancun is not the USA and the laws of the USA do not apply. If your kids get caught for any infraction, they will very highly likely end up in jail. And this jail is not where mom or dad can just bail them out easily. Depending on what the kids did, they can end up in jail for quite a long time, and get out after mom and dad pay an attorney a lot of money to release their child for something that in the USA would warrant nothing more then a desk appearance ticket and have a nice night from the friendly officer at the police station.
So the advice to parents is to yes let your kids go to Cancun, but you join them for a family trip. If you cannot do that, keep them at home.
And for the kids who can afford the trip out of their savings for the odd jobs they did over the years, do us all a favor, spend your money elsewhere such as a car or something that will keep you near home.
And for those kids who say, we know all this and we behave, that is not an issue, it is the people who will be in Cancun at the time you are there, who will do all possible to help you get into trouble of some sort and take advantage of you in some way.
Please note-I do not wish to keep you from Cancun, but if you do show up, you must be on your guard if not 10 times higher then being on your guard.
All those who read TA Forums would love to see all of you go home safe and sound without getting into any sort of trouble. And the only way you can truly avoid it is to plan a graduation trip with your family in tow even though you may not want to be seen with them.
Follow up advice posted by others and myself last year as well.
1. Do your research. There a ton of different ways to travel, you can book through a travel agent or online, you can book through a regular tour operator or you can book through a student tour operator. Each of these has it's place in the grand scheme of life here. But in my experience if there are students traveling the safest way is through a student tour operator. The majority of the student tour operators have safety nets set up for students traveling. Such as my company has staff onsite (not just a rep to set up tours if you need) but actual staff at every event. We have a schedule of events (keeps the students having the bets trip-and yet keeps everyone together). We bring down American EMTS, have biligual staff, emergency cells and radios, a 24 hour student center, etc. We do meetings throughout the year with students and parents, and we cover safe traveling over and over with them so they are well prepared. There is never a guarantee on safety anywhere, but these type of safety nets help make sure our students have a safe and fun trip!
2. Know your son/daughter and for that matter their friends. Not every high school senior has the maturity to be able to handle a week in Cancun. If you have problems here with them, most likely they will have problems down there. Nobody wants that. Know that most "good travel or tour operators" want your children to be safe. It's more important to people like us that your son/daughter is safe than we sell a trip. If whoever you are working with doesn't seem to feel that way-it's a pretty good sign of how much they'd care if there were any problems. If you feel uncomfortable-go with your instinct and either look around for another company, find out if you can travel with them, or look for an alternative trip that fits better.
3. Ask a lot of questions, and be active in the plans. I know students come home with a brochure and say hey Mom guess what my class is doing...don't just settle for that. Find out when they are meeting to talk about the trip, find out who their rep is and call them. NEVER just turn over their deposit and registration forms without knowing who they are traveling with, checking out that the company is legitimate, and finding out what kind of safety features they have. Ask the high school if you can have a parent meeting there after hours to get everyone involved-do whatever you have to do to be involved.
4. In 10 years in my area, with Cancun always being the number one spot-I have not had one incident of crime related stuff or injuries. I take pride on that because my company is one that works hard to educate and inform ahead of time. I can't tell you how manytimes a year I say "buddy system" to them. Or how many times we go over do's and don'ts. The best way to make sure your child is safe is to educate them ahead of time, talk about expectations, talk about what to do if something should happen, keep in touch, know that there are people there if you are not. My students aren't always angels here, but they do know what they should and shouldn't do and tend to be pretty respectful of that.
5. There's a few things I'd mention about different companies. #1 Find out how long they have been in business, as a mother of 2 girls, I can tell you I would NOT send my children with anyone whose been doing this for 3 years. #2 make sure they are members of travel asscociations such as ASTA< NTA< IATAN...this shows you that they have been in business a while, live by certain rules, and have moeny put down to insure they are up to the highest standards. #3 Ask about safety nets they have for students. Ask what their staff ratios are. #4 Find out how many students they have traveled over the years. The more students, the more experience with students that age, and the better relationships they have onsite with local officials/busineses/police/vendors/clubs/etc. #5 See how active they are about parent involvement. That means do they have a Parent Program, do they encourage parent participation, do they meet with parents, etc. It's a BAD sign if they don't want parents to be involved-shows they are hiding something.
#6. Check out groups like the Safe Travels Foundation. This is the organization that Natalie Holloway's mother started. We just did a big press release with her about safety and student travel. If you want a copy-let me know. The fact is that whenever students are traveling anymore-this is the child and family we think about. And the one good thing that comes from this families loss is that it did get everyone thinking about safety and making good decisions. It also helped the student travel industry because most companies "stepped up" their safety. Natalie's mother has become an amazing advocate in this field and truely and inspiration for everyone.
#7. For Cancun, there's some tips I'll share just for basics-and welcome anyone who has q's to message me. #1 Stay in groups and buddies-NO MATTER WHAT!! Never leave the clubs with someone you don't know-even if there is a group of them. Stay with the people you are traveling with. #2 Stick to the bus. It runs 24/7 and is inexpensive. Taking a taxi is taking an opportunity to be fairly alone with someone you don't know who has the power to drive you wherever-just don't do it. The buses stop every 5-15 minutes-be patient. #3 Be smart about drinking, sun, swimming and any combination of the three as well. It's not the water that makes people sick-it's usually dehydration. #4 Don't carry around ATM/credit cards-keep everything locked in your hotel safe. Carry only the money you need for that event, or if you can pre-purchase events. #5 If you are traveling with a student tour operator-stick to their events. It's your way of knowing there are people there to help you. If you are traveling through a normal tour operator, booked online or through a travel agent, and do not have stuff set up for you-ask around to find out if there are events through a student tour operator that would allow you to attend (some will, some won't). #6 Stay out of the ocean at night, and don't trust that it's safe to be alone at your hotel or for a late night run along the beach. Again just never be alone. Also during the day watch the flags for the water safety. Pending your location, sometimes the waters do get a lil rough and there are dangerous currents. #7 Never let anyone buy you a drink or for that matter leave a drink unattended. While I haven't experienced this with my students, it's not to say it doesn't happen and we always talk about drinks/drugs. I tell my travelers to always get your own drinks, watch the bartender make it, never set it down and if you're holding it-keep your hand over the top. While maybe just a precaution-it's a good lesson for them to take with them to college as well.
#8 Know the time of year to travel. If you are traveling with a couple students and parents, whatever time of year that's fine. If it is a student group, know that spring weeks are always the most hectic and packed. It is mostly college students, and it is a little wilder than other times. Know that the last week or so of May through mid June is normally high school students for the graduation trips. Still busy but fewer college students and a little more directed toward that age group. Any other time of the year there will not be "student events or hotels" it wil just be normal Cancun-still beautiful and fun but not so much set up for high school students.
#9 Think about what you and the students want when planning the trip. I've had parents start the planning and want to send them to the Moon Palace -and while an extrodianary hotel-it's also way far away and mostly couples. Students want something student friendly, somewhere where there are students not honeymooners, where there are activities for them, close to the action, most want something cheap so more students can be involved, etc. The majority of students spend very little time at the hotels-so sending them to where you and hubby/wife would chose isn't always the smartest idea. Save the money. =) The same goes for other destinations-mayan riveria is mostly couples, cabo is an older crowd, etc. The same goes for activities-while the Ruins is neat, and the ecological parks are amazing, even the priate cruise is cool-it's not the things the majority of students want. They usually want to meet other students, dance the night away, and spend their days at the pool or beach. Think about what you would want or ask them what they want out of their trip...hehehe..the parents and students usually have 2 different views on what makes the best trip. =)
10. And lastly just make sure you are aware of any international things going on or travel warnings. Also know the destinations-even Cancun is not the same as it was 3 years ago (it's much better)-so talk with someone who knows the destination. Make a great decision based on all the above-and whatever you decide to do-I hope your trip or your son/daughters trip is amazing and packed with unforgettable memories, and SAFE. =)
Hope that helps everyone. Senior trips are always controversial-and scary for parents! I never push these trips on anyone and offer lots of alternative destinations if they are more comfortable with. The truth is though that most of these students are about to graduate, and within months will face the same situations on their college campuses with drinking, decision making, peer pressure, etc. So it's a horribly scary time for parents, and a decision that should not be made lightly.
No matter how smart and wise kids are at the age of 17 or 18, they are still a bit unwise as to what takes place in a foreign country and its rules and laws. These are regrettably not the same as in the US, and being in a foreign country the consequences of a possible minor error on their part is much greater then at home.
Now in my opinion the best solution that high school graduates can have for a trip to Cancun is to bring the parents along for the trip. It does not mean they have to be in the same room with Mom and Dad, but if they are in the same resort and there are any issues whatsoever the parents are there to help resolve it. Trust me that is a much easier solution then Mom and Dad getting a phone call somewhere outside of Mexico that your child is in some sort of trouble, no matter how small that may be means a major headache for the family, which could take days to solve vs. if the parent is somewhere very nearby and the resolution takes minutes to accomplish.
Plus who is to say that Mom and Dad do not deserve a reward of a trip to Cancun for all the work that they have done for the first 17 or 18 years of their child’s life.
But overall I still maintain my opinion that I write each year in the spring is that to keep the kids at home. There is no real reason for them to go to Cancun and get drunk no matter what precautions are being taken by the poster above or anyone else. It really is not needed and trust me everyone will sleep better overall by skipping the trip without Mom and Dad tagging along.
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