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A Moana fan theory speculates that we've all been watching the Disney movie the wrong way.
A very provocative fan theory is making waves on Reddit about Disney ’s beloved blockbuster, Moana . Its author, u/davemidrock , floats a fairly compelling argument that Moana is actually dead for much of the picture. Now, after a deep-diving cinematic CSI investigation, we'll see whether there might be more to the classic movie than initially meets the eye.
Moana starts with her island nation besieged by a dangerous environmental imbalance. It can only be restored if she returns a sacred artifact to its rightful owner. Before she died, Moana’s grandmother tells her that the Ocean chose her for this task. Now, with the artifact in hand, Moana heads out with her clucky companion Hei Hei to find the demi-god Maui and make him return the stolen heart of Te Fiti. That’s the fun version of the movie that audiences (think they) know.
The crux of the dark theory is this: that Moana actually drowns at the beginning of her journey to find Maui. The post's author argues that being dead allows Moana access to the underworld to complete her mission. They suspect that she drowned after her boat tipped in the big storm -- and that a pivotal moment is littered with possible clues.
While struggling to right her capsized boat, Moana pleads with the ocean for help. Lightning and thunder immediately crash on the horizon before a large wave crests overhead. Then, everything suddenly goes dark. After a long fade to black, the scene opens with Moana stranded on Maui’s island. The fan theory suggests that Moana has now entered the underworld. Several Pacific Islander cultures make reference in their mythology to an underworld, or a similar place, often inhabited by spirits or entities.
The Reddit author argues that Moana could only get there after dying, which is why the Ocean had to drown her. Considering the Ocean had always been helpful to Moana, tossing her overboard and killing her seems at least mildly out of character -- especially considering the Ocean had previously helped her during the voyage. Perhaps it knew something Moana didn’t, or functions as some kind of gateway, straddling both worlds.
From here, Moana never sees another human -- only ancestral spirits and mystical creatures. She does speak with her grandmother’s ghost. However, before the storm hit, her grandmother’s spirit appeared as a giant ray that didn’t interact with her. It’s speculated that this shows Moana is now in the underworld where spirits can interact. This might also explain why she never gets hurt.
At every turn, Moana repels her near death experiences with almost super human resiliency, which is another possible clue that she's entered the underworld. Moana never seems to display any ill effects from her perilous adventures with Maui. We only see her get hurt at the start of the movie, when she cuts her ankle on a reef. But, there is one small incident that’s easily missed that could poke a hole in this theory.
Moana displays a momentary grimace of discomfort when she tries to break out of the cave Maui puts her in. The Redditor thinks it was nothing more than a reflexive memory of pain after ramming her shoulder into the boulder, and not actual discomfort. It is also a cartoon, which can be great for moments of consequence free injuries. But if that’s the case, her journey into the Realm of Monsters to retrieve Maui’s hook further deepens the mystery.
Moana plunges hundreds of feet before splashing through a mystical underwater barrier into the Realm of Monsters. She then tumbles though the watery ceiling in Tamatoa’s lair. After fighting the giant crustacean, a geyser launchers her back up to the ocean's surface. It’s here Maui tips his hand as to whether this fan theory is correct.
Maui remarks to Moana, “you almost died” while recovering on the beach, which is a strange comment to make if Moana was already dead. It was his remark of a similar nature, after earlier congratulating her for not dying while fighting Kakamora. But perhaps the answer lies in the final scene, which the Redditor suggests back up their claim.
When Te Fiti’s heart is restored, she fixes Moana’s boat for the journey home. It’s here that Maui says that even the “chicken lives.” This suggests that Te Fiti also brought HeiHei back to life. So, when adding and subtracting all the various pieces to this theory, perhaps there is a middle ground to be found.
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Things About Moana You Only Notice As An Adult
By Crystal Henry / Updated: Sept. 2, 2021 10:37 pm EDT
As a parent of two young children, and a fully committed Disney-phile, I try to stay abreast on the latest Disney movies. And by stay abreast, I mean I will sit and watch them 300 times with my kids until I can not only memorize lines, but find plot holes, create conspiracy theories, and dream in full-color animation.
I'll admit that when I saw the previews for Moana , I thought it was just a way for Disney to capitalize on their newest hibiscus-themed timeshare resort in Hawaii. I naively expected a watered-down remake of Lilo and Stitch , but what I got was a surprisingly heartwarming tale rooted in Polynesian culture. But while my kids giggled at the silly antics of a mentally unstable chicken, I noticed a few things that might only be caught through the jaded eyes of adulthood.
Moana's village might have been located on the deserted Polynesian island of Motunui without smartphones and hybrid cars, but her parents, Chief Tui and his wife Sina, were classic Millennial helicopter parents.
While Moana's grandmother Tala regaled the children with stories of the island, Sina and Chief Tui weren't interested in the old fashioned notions of "the village crazy lady." And while it sounds like in Moana's parents' generation (back in the day), kids were allowed to roam free beyond the reef, Moana wasn't allowed to venture very far. This is characteristic of helicopter parenting in which the parents' own experiences and subsequent anxieties and fears of bad outcomes lead to being overprotective of their children.
If being helicopter parents who shun the old ways doesn't convince you that Moana's parents are Millennials, consider that they also probably have a pretty healthy obsession with coconut oil. I mean, they have dedicated their entire agricultural system to coconuts and using every part of the crop.
Moana's dad sings an entire song about not going out past the reef, but early in the movie we see that there really is zero water safety going on when she is in diapers. I know it's hard to watch kids at all times, but while Moana's father is chastising his own mother for scaring the toddlers with legends about "inescapable death," Moana toddles out to sea.
If that were real life, the story would be splashed on social media, Moana's dad would be in jail, and the mommy shamers would be out in full force. Luckily the ocean has human characteristics and good intentions when it tempts the toddler out to sea with conch shells. But while Moana seems annoyed throughout the movie because her father is adamant that she stay away from the water, as a parent I wonder if she brought that on herself by constantly running out to sea without a life saving device or even a pair of floaties.
The beginning of the movie shows that the demigod Maui has stolen the heart of Te Fiti, dooming all of mankind. Legend says "the chosen one" must find the heart and force Maui to return it, but in the end Moana is the one who returns the heart and saves the planet.
I was only about ten minutes into the movie before I'm questioning Maui's part in this. It seems like the ocean keeps giving Moana the green rock, and even Maui calls out the plot line saying if the ocean is so smart it should return the heart itself. I thought maybe Te Fiti would only forgive humankind if Maui admitted his mistake. But Te Fiti calms down as soon as Moana gives her back the heart. Mo could have saved herself a lot of grief if she'd just gone on her own. But I suppose then Maui wouldn't have gotten his hook back, and Te Fiti wouldn't have gotten her apology.
Maui's shapeshifting is no doubt impressive, but even more impressive is the fact that he shapeshifts into animals with pockets. Maui often transforms while holding the heart of Te Fiti or at the very least while holding his hook. But when he takes the form of a shark or a hawk, the objects are nowhere to be seen.
We looked closely to see if maybe the hawk was holding the heart in his talons, but didn't see it, and in his shark form there are no talons to hold anything. Either his animal bodies have teeny pockets, or he absorbs these items into his body, which leads me to question how they get out when he transforms back into a human. Seems painful, especially when he turns into a tiny beetle.
There's also a third option. There's a blink-and-miss-it hint of what happens to the hook when Maui transforms. If you look closely at Maui's wing when he becomes a hawk, you'll see the shape of the hook in his feathers. Seems as though the hook becomes a tattoo-like symbol while he's in shape-shift mode. Though, this doesn't answer what happens to the heart of Te Fiti, and we really like the visual of a shark with little pockets, so we're going to have to stick with that.
Pua is a little dog-like sidekick who follows Moana around the island. This little piggy seems harmless, and we even feel sad for him when Moana scarfs down a huge bite of pork while he watches in horror. But I can't help but wonder if that sweet little swine has some bad mojo.
When Moana decides to voyage out on the boats for the first time, Pua jumps on board. Her boat makes it over the first wave, but Pua is tossed overboard. Then while Moana turns to save him a giant wave capsizes her boat and she's trapped under water. Every other ocean quest is met with help from the water, but during this swine-ful attempt the ocean almost kills her.
When Moana finally washes up on shore with the stunned piglet, her grandmother walks up and says "Whatever just happened, blame the pig." The next voyage, Moana leaves the little bacon bit on the island and sets sail with the ditzy chicken, and her mission is successful. It had me wondering if the ocean had some kind of pork aversion, or if Pua was just bad luck.
I have probably seen Moana more than 30 times, and the music never gets old. Frozen may have busted out of the box office with Golden Globe nominations, and Academy Award and Grammy wins for its music, but Moana gave me songs that I'd put in my own personal playlist.
The song "How Far I'll Go" is so powerful, that it still gives me chills after the 50th time I hear it. And I'm not the only one who gets amped up when this jam comes on. One 4-year-old broke the internet when the spirit moved her through that song. Samoan singer and songwriter Opetaia Fao'i collaborated on the soundtrack — writing "We Know the Way" among other songs — which also pumps up the authenticity of the music. In a touchy time of cultural appropriation, I was glad to know they consulted and took direction from the people they wanted to represent.
While songs like "How Far I'll Go" and "We Know the Way" are moving and heartfelt, the one I actually identify with as a parent is "You're Welcome" when Moana shows up on Maui's island demanding he take her to Te Fiti. Sure, Maui might be a little full of himself, but no one can deny that the demigod has definitely done a lot for Moana's people (if we just ignore the whole stealing the heart of Te Fiti thing).
As parents, how many times have our kids rolled up on us making demands for us to shuttle them somewhere without taking a moment to realize that we've already moved mountains for them without so much as a thank you? It's nice to have a melody to churn out the next time my child forgets that I'm the reason the sun even rises and sets on her world.
The crazy grandma actually has to be my favorite character in the movie, because she's a strong woman with a great sense of humor. When she comes across Moana after her failed attempt to get beyond the reef, Moana is worried her grandmother is going to tell her father about what she's done. Tala replies with a smile, "I'm his mom, I don't have to tell him anything."
After being solidly established as Moana's trusted confidant, Gramma Tala is seen swaying in the water and grazing the backs of the circling rays. In that moment she tells Moana , "When I die, I'm going to come back as one of these, or I chose the wrong tattoo."
The grandmother doesn't live much longer after that, and as Moana sets out on her greatest adventure, a great light explodes and a beautiful glowing ray glides swiftly under her boat and out to sea, jumping majestically into the air. If you can watch this movie in its entirety including the scene where Gramma Tala's spirit helps Moana find her inner strength and identity , and not cry — you are dead inside.
In true Disney fashion, there are a few corny jokes thrown in especially for the parents and babysitters in the crowd. My kids are still small enough that their knowledge of social media outlets is fairly limited, so when Maui says, "When you write with a bird, it's called tweeting," I think Disney was trying to make me feel hip for getting the reference. For all I know Twitter is so last year, and Disney's dorky dad jokes are only funny to people with fanny packs and mini vans. But I'm not too proud to admit I actually chuckled out loud.
They also threw in a little toilet humor when an outstretched Maui tells Moana that warmer water means she's going the right way . Technically pee humor is on level for my 8-year-old, but let's face it, potty jokes will always be funny at any age.
The world is scary enough right now, so I appreciate Disney throwing a fairly benign villain our way with Tamatoa. Instead of terrifying kids the whole time, we laugh at the shiny decapod when he breaks character with lines like, "Just pick an eye babe" or "You can't run from me! Oh you can. You keep surprising me!"
The entire movie actually calls on us to reexamine villainy as a black and white concept. The primary antagonist, Te Ka, is actually the goddess Te Fiti who has been wronged. Tamatoa teaches kids about bioluminescent algae, the term decapod, the idea that all that glitters is not gold, and to not be selfish hoarders. But he also gives us a great song and a good laugh, so I appreciate him as an addition.
I always love finding Easter eggs in movies, so I pretended that the little sea turtle Moana saves at the beginning of the movie is actually Squirt from Finding Nemo — and I may not have even needed to pr
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