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Cunégonde ( Cunigunde ) (June 19, 835). Her origin is not known, but Settipani suggests that she might have been a daughter of Heribert of Toulouse . If so, this accounts for the introduction of the name Héribert into the Carolingian royal family. Settipani's theory is part of a more extensive reconstruction whereby Héribert might have been a son of Guillaume de Gellone and Cunégonde . If so, this Cunégonde was named for her father's mother.
Alternative reconstructions suggest that Héribert had a wife named Cunégonde, perhaps a daughter of Maurin of Spoleto .
Basic information and justifications:
Birth: Before 800 FMG, 797 cited without source in contributing GEDCOM files (apparently based on her being the same age as her husband, Bernard). Location unknown, Bohain-en-Vermandois has been suggested, and English and Italian Wikipedia suggest that she is from Laon.
Marriage: 813, supported by FMG and Wikipedia, likely around the same time as the confirmation of Bernard as King of Italy in Aachen.
Death: after 15 June 835 (date of an act of the monastery of San Alessandro naming her as still alive, cited by Settipani).
Occupation: Queen of Italy, 813-817.
Name: English Wikipedia names her as Cunigunda of Laon (Italian Wikipedia as Cunegonda di Laon, possible source being Jorge Jarnut, "Kaiser Ludwig der Fromme und Koenig Bernhard von Italien"). FMG cites the Latin variant of Cunigundis.
From the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy Medlands page on Carolingian Nobility (covering speculation on her birth family):
m ---. The name of Heribert's wife is not known.]
a) [CUNIGUNDIS (-after 15 Jun 835).
m ([813]%29 BERNARD I King of Italy, illegitimate son of PEPIN I King of Italy & his mistress Chrothais ([797]-Milan 17 Aug 818, bur Milan, San Ambrosio).]
From the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy Medlands page on Italy Kings (covering her married family):
BERNARD, illegitimate son of PEPIN I King of Italy & his mistress --- ([797]-Milan 17 Aug 818, bur Milan, San Ambrosio).
m ([813]) CUNIGUNDIS, daughter of --- (-after 15 Jun 835).
King Bernard & his wife had one son:
1. PEPIN ([815]-after 850). Regino names "Pippinum" son of "Bernhardus filius Pippin rex Italiæ"[646]. Seigneur de Péronne et de Saint Quentin[647]. Comte near Paris after 834.
Marriage 1 Bernard of Italy b: 0797 in of Vermandois, Austrasia
Forrás / Source, Darryl Lundy's Peerage page on Kunigunda/Cunegonde:
Kunigunda Cunegonde married Bernard, King of Italy, son of Pepin I, King of the Langobardians and Bertha de Toulouse, in 813.
Child of Kunigunda Cunegonde and Bernard, King of Italy
-1. Pepin II, Seigneur de Peronne+ b. 817, d. 840
According to the French Wikipedia page on her husband, Bernard d'Italie:
Vers 813, il avait épousé une certaine Cunégonde. La filiation de cette dernière n'est pas connue, mais son nom a été rapproché de Cunégonde, l'épouse de Guillaume de Gellone, et mère d'un Héribert, prénom qui apparaît ensuite dans la descendance de Bernard. Chronologiquement l'épouse de Bernard serait plutôt fille d'Héribert et petite-fille de Guillaume de Gellone et de Cunégonde.
Pépin, comte dit de Péronne, au Nord de la Seine, vivant en 840.
1. ↑ Bernard d'Italie sur le site Foundation for Medieval Genealogy
2. Christian Settipani, La Préhistoire des Capétiens (Nouvelle histoire généalogique de l'auguste maison de France, vol. 1), éd. Patrick van Kerrebrouck, 1993 (ISBN 2-9501509-3-4)
3. Cet article comprend des extraits du Dictionnaire Bouillet. Il est possible de supprimer cette indication, si le texte reflète le savoir actuel sur ce thème, si les sources sont citées, s'il satisfait aux exigences linguistiques actuelles et s'il ne contient pas de propos qui vont à l'encontre des règles de neutralité de Wikipédia.
Around 813 (age 14) he married a certain Cunegonde, The parentage of this woman is not known, but her name has been likened to Cunegonde, wife of St. William de Gellone and mother of Herbert, the first name that appears in the progeny of Bernard. Chronologically, the wife of Bernard would provide the name for the daughter of Herbert and the granddaughter of William Gellone and Cunegonde.
Bernard and Cunegonde were parents of Pepin, Comte of Peronne, north of the Seine, who was alive in 840.
1. Bernard of Italy on the site Foundation for Medieval Genealogy
2. Christian Settipani, The Prehistory of the Capetians (New genealogical history of the Augustus house of France, Vol. 1), edited by Patrick van Kerrebrouck, 1993 (ISBN 2-9501509-3-4)
3. Extracts from the Dictionary Bouillet. (Passage indicating that the material contained may not be in compliance with Wikipedia's rules of neutrality.)
Cunégonde (Cunigunde) (June 19, 835). Her origin is not known, but Settipani suggests that she might have been a daughter of Heribert of Toulouse. If so, this accounts for the introduction of the name Héribert into the Carolingian royal family. Settipani's theory is part of a more extensive reconstruction whereby Héribert might have been a son of Guillaume de Gellone and Cunégonde. If so, this Cunégonde was named for her father's mother.
Alternative reconstructions suggest that Héribert had a wife named Cunégonde, perhaps a daughter of Maurin of Spoleto.
Option 1: Heribert (780/785 - after 843, speculated as son of William of Gellone) and Heribert's unknown wife. (Proposed by Christian Settipani, supported by FMG and French Wikipedia) Option 2: Adelgis, count of Parma, and his unknown wife. (Supported by "Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition", by Frederick Lewis Weis) Correction: Weis, 7th edition (1999) at Line 50-15 says only "Cunigunde, d. ca. 835". No parents claimed. Another Cunégonde, wife of Poppo von Grapfeld is also claimed as a daughter of Adelgis. Spouse:
Bernardo I, re d'Italia (798-817) Child:
Pepin I de Vermandois, Seigneur de Péronne et de Saint-Quentin and Comte near Paris (Title given by Rösch, S. in his work "Caroli Magni Progenies", cited in FMG) Basic information and justifications:
Birth: Before 800 FMG, 797 cited without source in contributing GEDCOM files (apparently based on her being the same age as her husband, Bernard). Location unknown, Bohain-en-Vermandois has been suggested, and English and Italian Wikipedia suggest that she is from Laon.
Marriage: 813, supported by FMG and Wikipedia, likely around the same time as the confirmation of Bernard as King of Italy in Aachen.
Death: after 15 June 835 (date of an act of the monastery of San Alessandro naming her as still alive, cited by Settipani).
Occupation: Queen of Italy, 813-817.
Name: English Wikipedia names her as Cunigunda of Laon (Italian Wikipedia as Cunegonda di Laon, possible source being Jorge Jarnut, "Kaiser Ludwig der Fromme und Koenig Bernhard von Italien"). FMG cites the Latin variant of Cunigundis.
From the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy Medlands page on Carolingian Nobility (covering speculation on her birth family):
The Vita Hludowici Imperatoris names "Heribertus, Bernhardi frater" when recording that he was sent to suppress the rebellion of "Hodo consobrinus illius", the latter surrendering and being exiled[389]. "Willelmus…comes" names "filiabus meis et filiis Barnardo, Witchario, Gotcelmo, Helimbruch" (version two: "filios meos et filias Witcario, Hildehelmo et Helinbruch") in his charter dated 14 Dec 804 (version two: dated 15 Dec 804) for the foundation of the monastery of Gellone[390], it being possible that "Helimbruch" refers to Heribert and is not a separate person. His birth date range is estimated on the basis of his having been adult in 809 when he was probably recorded in Spain (see below). It is not entirely clear that Heribert was the full brother of Bernard. In the Manual of Dhuoda (written in 843), Doda reminds her son that, when a member of his family dies, he should add the deceased's name to the list of family members for whom prayers should be said. She adds at the end of the paragraph a reminder that he should do the same in respect of "domno Ariberto avunculo tuo"[391]. There are three possible explanations for this special position accorded to Heribert in the text. The obvious case is that Heribert, because of his disgrace and mutilation, was considered to have forfeited his rights to the respect generally accorded to deceased family members, Doda thinking it worthwhile to remind her son that this was not the appropriate way to treat his uncle. The second possibility is that he was not so obviously a "family member" as the other named individuals, either because he was illegitimate or because he was a uterine half-brother of Bernard. The third possibility, although this appears less likely, is that Heribert was Bernard's brother-in-law, bearing in mind the strict meaning of the word avunculus as maternal uncle. However, the Manual refers only to the need to pray for the family of Bernard's father, in which case it would seem odd for the text to single out Heribert from all other maternal relatives if he was related to Bernard through his mother. The Vita Hludowici Imperatoris records that "Heribertum" was awarded Tortosa after its capture [in 809][392], which it is assumed refers to Heribert son of Duke Guillaume as no other contemporary with this name has so far been identified. If this is correct, Heribert must have been one of his father's older children, certainly older than Bernard assuming that the latter's birth date is correctly estimated to [795]. The Vita Hludowici Imperatoris names "Heriberto" as missus of King Louis I [in 812][393]. Nithard names "Herbert" brother of Bernard Duke of Septimania, when recording that he was captured, blinded and imprisoned in Italy in [Apr 830] when his brother was banished by the sons of Emperor Louis I[394]. The Annales Bertiniani record the capture and blinding of "Herebertum fratrem Bernardi" in 830[395]. The Vita Hludowici Imperatoris records that "Heribertus Bernhardi frater" was blinded [in 830] and exiled with "Hodo consobrinus illius"[396]. The previous passage in the Vita records that Orléans was confiscated from Eudes Comte d'Orléans. It is possible that he was the same person as "Hodo", although the precise nature of the relationship between him and Heribert has not been established. m ---. The name of Heribert's wife is not known.]
a) [CUNIGUNDIS (-after 15 Jun 835).
Settipani suggests[397] that Cunigundis, wife of Bernard I King of Italy, was the daughter of Heribert in order to explain the transmission of his name into the family. This is highly speculative. It would also mean that Heribert was older than suggested above, as it is unlikely that Cunigundis was born later than 800 assuming that the birth date of her son is correctly estimated at [815]. m ([813]%29 BERNARD I King of Italy, illegitimate son of PEPIN I King of Italy & his mistress Chrothais ([797]-Milan 17 Aug 818, bur Milan, San Ambrosio).]
[389] Vita Hludowici Imperatoris 45, MGH SS II, p. 633. [390] Reproduced in Thomassy, R. 'Critique des deux chartes de foundation de l'abbaye de Saint-Guillem-du-Désert', Bibliothèque de l'Ecole des Chartes, Série 1, Tome II (Paris 1840-1844), p. 179. [391] Manuel de Dhuoda LXXII, p. 238. [392] Vita Hludowici Imperatoris 16, MGH SS II, p. 615. [393] Vita Hludowici Imperatoris 17, MGH SS II, p. 615. [394] Nithard I.3, p. 131. [395] Annales Bertiniani I 830. [396] Vita Hludowici Imperatoris 44 and 45, MGH SS II, p. 633. [397] Settipani (1993), p. 213.
From the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy Medlands page on Italy Kings (covering her married family):
BERNARD, illegitimate son of PEPIN I King of Italy & his mistress --- ([797]-Milan 17 Aug 818, bur Milan, San Ambrosio).
Thegan's Vita Hludowici Imperatoris names "Bernhardus filius Pippini ex concubina"[635]. Bernard is named only son of Pippin by Einhard[636]. Regino names "Bernhardus filius Pippin rex Italiæ" when recording his death in 818[637]. Settipani cites a litany of St Gallen which lists Bernard among Carolingians of illegitimate birth[638]. He was brought up at Kloster Fulda. His paternal grandfather sent him back to Italy in autumn 812, granting him the title "rex Langobardorum" in Apr 813. Einhard's Annales that "Walanem filium Bernhardi patruelis sui" was sent to Italy in 812 as guardian for "Bernhardum filium Pippin nepotem suum [Karoli imperatoris]"[639]. He was confirmed 11 Sep 813 at Aix-la-Chapelle as BERNARD I King of Italy, as vassal of the emperor, ruling under the regency of Adalhard abbé de Corbie[640]. Although he swore allegiance to his uncle Emperor Louis I "le Pieux" on the latter's accession in 814, the emperor passed the Ordinatio Imperii in Jul 817 which failed to mention Bernard's royal status, effectively depriving him of any role in government and of his royal title. Bernard rebelled unsuccessfully in Dec 817. He was tricked into returning to France to ask for the emperor's forgiveness at Chalon-sur-Saône, but was taken to Aix-la-Chapelle where he was sentenced to death. The Annales Xantenses record that "Bernhardus rex Langobardorum" was blinded in 818[641]. Thegan's Vita Hludowici Imperatoris records that "Bernhardus filius Pippini ex concubina" was blinded and died on the third day which followed this[642]. After his death, Italy was once more placed under the direct rule of the emperor[643]. m ([813]) CUNIGUNDIS, daughter of --- (-after 15 Jun 835).
Settipani refers to an act of the monastery of San Alessandro, Parma dated 15 Jun 835 which names her[644]. The origin of Cunigundis is not known. Settipani suggests[645] that she was Cunigundis, daughter of Héribert, relative of St Guillaume Comte de Toulouse in order to explain the transmission of the name Héribert into the family of Bernard King of Italy. This is highly speculative. It would also mean that Héribert was older than suggested in the document CAROLINGIAN NOBILITY, as it is unlikely that Cunigundis was born later than 800 assuming that the birth date of her son is correctly estimated at [815]. King Bernard & his wife had one son:
1. PEPIN ([815]-after 850). Regino names "Pippinum" son of "Bernhardus filius Pippin rex Italiæ"[646]. Seigneur de Péronne et de Saint Quentin[647]. Comte near Paris after 834.
[635] Thegani Vita Hludowici Imperatoris 22, MGH SS II, p. 596. [636] Einhard 19, p. 454. [637] Reginonis Chronicon 818, MGH SS I, p. 567. [638] Settipani, p. 211 footnote 142, which does not give the citation for the source. [639] Einhardi Annales 812, MGH SS, p. 199. [640] RFA 812 and 813, p. 95. [641] Annales Xantenses 817, MGH SS II, p. 224. [642] Thegani Vita Hludowici Imperatoris 22 and 23, MGH SS II, p. 596. [643] Settipani (1993), pp. 212-3. [644] Settipani (1993), p. 213, citing Werner, K. F. 'Hludowicus Augustus: gouverner l'empire Chrétien - idées et réalités', Charlemagne's heir (1990), p. 32 footnote 103. [645] Settipani (1993), p. 213. According to Rösch (1977), p. 74, the origin of Cunigundis is unknown. [646] Reginonis Chronicon 818, MGH SS I, p. 567. [647] Rösch (1977), p. 86.
ID: I28891 Name: Cunigunde of Italy Given Name: Cunigunde Suffix: of Italy Prefix: Queen Sex: F Birth: ABT 0797 in France Death: ABT 0835 Ancestral File #: 9G83-5C _UID: 30348172DDBDD611BF694445535400003064 1 Change Date: 1 Sep 2002 at 01:00:00 Marriage 1 Bernard of Italy b: 0797 in of Vermandois, Austrasia
1. Has Children Pepin Quentin II of Vermandois b: ABT 0818 in of Vermandois, Neustria Sources:
Forrás / Source, Darryl Lundy's Peerage page on Kunigunda/Cunegonde:
F, #635 Last Edited=18 Sep 2002 Kunigunda Cunegonde married Bernard, King of Italy, son of Pepin I, King of the Langobardians and Bertha de Toulouse, in 813.
Child of Kunigunda Cunegonde and Bernard, King of Italy
-1. Pepin II, Seigneur de Peronne+ b. 817, d. 840
According to the French Wikipedia page on her husband, Bernard d'Italie:
Vers 813, il avait épousé une certaine Cunégonde. La filiation de cette dernière n'est pas connue, mais son nom a été rapproché de Cunégonde, l'épouse de Guillaume de Gellone, et mère d'un Héribert, prénom qui apparaît ensuite dans la descendance de Bernard. Chronologiquement l'épouse de Bernard serait plutôt fille d'Héribert et petite-fille de Guillaume de Gellone et de Cunégonde.
Pépin, comte dit de Péronne, au Nord de la Seine, vivant en 840.
1. ↑ Bernard d'Italie sur le site Foundation for Medieval Genealogy
2. Christian Settipani, La Préhistoire des Capétiens (Nouvelle histoire généalogique de l'auguste maison de France, vol. 1), éd. Patrick van Kerrebrouck, 1993 (ISBN 2-9501509-3-4)
3. Cet article comprend des extraits du Dictionnaire Bouillet. Il est possible de supprimer cette indication, si le texte reflète le savoir actuel sur ce thème, si les sources sont citées, s'il satisfait aux exigences linguistiques actuelles et s'il ne contient pas de propos qui vont à l'encontre des règles de neutralité de Wikipédia.
Around 813 (age 14) he married a certain Cunegonde, The parentage of this woman is not known, but her name has been likened to Cunegonde, wife of St. William de Gellone and mother of Herbert, the first name that appears in the progeny of Bernard. Chronologically, the wife of Bernard would provide the name for the daughter of Herbert and the granddaughter of William Gellone and Cunegonde.
Bernard and Cunegonde were parents of Pepin, Comte of Peronne, north of the Seine, who was alive in 840.
1. Bernard of Italy on the site Foundation for Medieval Genealogy
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ITALY,%20Kings%20to%20962.htm#Berna... 2. Christian Settipani, The Prehistory of the Capetians (New genealogical history of the Augustus house of France, Vol. 1), edited by Patrick van Kerrebrouck, 1993 (ISBN 2-9501509-3-4)
3. Extracts from the Dictionary Bouillet. (Passage indicating that the material contained may not be in compliance with Wikipedia's rules of neutrality.)
Cunigunde is the mother, not step mother, of of Pepin, Count of Vermandois. read more
Cunégonde (Cunigunde) (June 19, 835). Her origin is not known, but Settipani suggests that she might have been a daughter of Heribert of Toulouse. If so, this accounts for the introduction of the
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