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A Michigan mom who fell in love with her biological son says a rare “genetic” phenomenon is responsible for their red-hot romance.
Kim West, 57, got pregnant as a teenager, and gave up her baby boy, Ben Ford, for adoption in the mid-1980s.
Ford, who is now 38, tracked down his mother eight years ago, and the pair formed a close bond. Things quickly turned sexual, and they went public with their incestuous relationship in 2016, with West boasting she had “mind-blowing sex” with her son.
The couple has subsequently kept a low profile in a bid to avoid being prosecuted for their illegal sexual relations, but say science is the reason they can’t keep their hands off each other.
“This is not incest, it is GSA. We are like peas in a pod and are meant to be together,” West declared to New Day, speaking about a phenomenon known as “genetic sexual attraction.”
The phenomenon was first identified back in the 1980s by Barbara Gonyo, a woman who ran a Chicago-based support group for adoptees and their newfound relatives. She coined the term “GSA” after noting that numerous people associated with the group became sexually attracted to their family members when they first met as adults.
Psychologist Corinne Sweet previously told New Day that she has come across the phenomenon while treating patients who had been in foster homes.
“At a genetic level, we are conditioned to find people who look like us attractive,” Sweet stated. “We have an almost tribal connection with family members with similar features. At the same time, people who are adopted or fostered feel deeply rejected. They have experienced a profound wound which isn’t easily healed.”
She further explained: “So when a son meets his birth mother, he feels a great rush of need. There’s an attraction and a longing there, and when it’s combined with the appeal of genetic similarity, it becomes a very powerful and complex cocktail which is incredibly seductive.”
However, other medical experts are skeptical of GSA, with New York City sex therapist Ian Kerner telling Women’s Health that the phenomenon has never been scientifically studied.
“I think that our mating systems tend to seek out genetic difference more than similarity,” he declared. “In the case of incest or romantic love between family members, I think you have to look at it case by case instead of generalizing it as a disorder or genetic condition.”
Meanwhile, clinical psychologist John Mayer bluntly told the magazine: “My professional opinion is that GSA is an excuse to give these people permission to break social norms.”
However, West and Ford say GSA adequately explains the instant attraction they felt for one another.
“I know people will say we’re disgusting, that we should be able to control our feelings, but when you’re hit by a love so consuming you are willing to give up everything for it, you have to fight for it,” West told New Day.
The loved-up mama continued: “It’s a once-in-a-lifetime chance and something Ben and I are not willing to walk away from.”
Her equally shameless son stated: “When I met Kim, I couldn’t think of her as my mom but instead as a sexual being. I had seen a therapist at an adoption support group and had learned about the GSA phenomenon.”
Making their relationship more shocking was the fact that Ford was married at the time they met. The smitten son soon dumped his wife in order to be in a relationship with his mom.
Ford told New Day that he couldn’t get his mother off his mind, saying to his spouse: “Every time I have had sex with you since I met her, I imagine it’s her I am kissing, otherwise I can’t perform.”
Meanwhile, West said it felt as if she and her son had “known each other for years” after they met as adults, describing their sex as “incredible” and “mind-blowing.”
But the couple should be careful about bragging about their hot sex, as incestuous relationships between adults are punishable by up to 15 years in prison in their home state of Michigan.
Anyone found guilty of such an offense would be required to sign the sex offenders registry for life.

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Eight years after Mackenzie Phillips revealed that she was once in a long-term incestuous relationship with her dad , her family relationships seem to be irrevocably damaged.

The former One Day at a Time star exposed in her first book, High on Arrival . the long-held secret that her dad, The Mamas & the Papas singer John Phillips, raped her at age 19 while they were under the influence of drugs and alcohol. The encounters continued, and they soon began a consensual, incestuous relationship lasting around 10 years.

In her new book, Hopeful Healing: Essays on Managing Recovery and Surviving Addiction , Phillips says that some family members still hold her accountable, and at one point disinvited her from a birthday party.

“Another family member was angered that I might attend, and I was told she was just not willing to forgive me yet. She wouldn’t forgive me ! For abuses perpetrated against me as a child, or for exposing those abuses perhaps,” she writes.

Phillips, a former drug addict who is now a drug rehab counselor at Breathe Life Healing Center, says that rather than holding on to the pain of being shunned by her family, she reaches out to her own counselor and loved ones for support.

“I’ve come to understand that some in my family have chosen to hold on to the pain and anger they felt when I came out with the truth about my dad,” she says. “I understand that they’re still caught in a textbook response of devaluing the victim and holding up the perpetrator.”

“I’ve also had to accept that, of course, I’d be the target of negative reactions and feelings because I’m the one who wrote the book and told a truth no one wanted to hear. If you’re trying to maintain some sort of façade so you can avoid pain, the last thing you want is for the façade to be demolished.”

When Phillip’s first book debuted in 2009, multiple family members spoke out against her — some accusing her of lying, while others were upset that she revealed a hidden family secret when her father, now dead, was unable to provide a counterpoint.

“Am I exceedingly joyful that my family secret that I told maybe my therapist, my husband and my very best friend in the whole word [is now public]? No,” Phillip’s half-sister, Chynna, told Oprah Winfrey on an episode of The Oprah Winfrey Show .

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“I understand Mackenzie’s need to come clean with a history she feels will help others, but it’s devastating to have the world watch as we try and mend broken fences, especially when the man in question isn’t here to defend himself,” another of Phillip’s half-sisters, Bijou, said in a statement.

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My wife bravely has confided in me she was sexually active with her older brother for 20 years (give or take). She ran from home and left him right before she arrived in my state. She cut communication for three years. We’ve decided to be radically honest with each other, but unfortunately, that means I know everything we do in bed came from him: threesomes, filming, every dirty thing that my wife amazed me with was all taught by her older brother. I can’t seem to move past that. They were kids when this started—he was a young teenager, and she was even younger. I know it’s not her fault, and she was abused. But she has talked to him a few times in secret, and once read a text saying “I can’t get you out of my head.” I now feel like the woman I live to serve and love will never crave me or enjoy me more than her secret abusive lover. I am drowning and don’t want to let this hurt ruin us. What the hell do I do?
Rich: I wonder how much treatment the wife has undergone. Healing from this level of trauma requires more than a single conversation.
Stoya: I wonder if she’s undergone any at all. It’s a long road, and a professional would be very useful here.
Rich: I would gander a guess that she could use individual therapy but that couple’s therapy would also be useful here.
Stoya: And therapy for him. Help processing difficult things now seems like it’d prevent complications in the future.
Rich: There are support groups for survivors but also for partners of survivors. RAINN serves partners as well.
Stoya: Amazing. Yeah, I think he could use someone to talk with who isn’t his wife. I’m stuck on a detail. Our writer is upset that she “once read a text saying ‘I can’t get you out of my head.’ ” Unless that’s a typo, it’s illogical to take his continued texting of her as evidence that she’s still stuck on him. Talking in secret, on the other hand, is a big red flag.
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Rich: I mean, this is a sexual relationship that started so early in her development. Abuse shaped her during formative years. If she were hung up on her brother, it’d be understandable if she hasn’t been treated. I understand this situation is extraordinary and complicated, but there is a degree of acceptance required from our letter writer: Your wife’s past is her past. How she learned what she learned may raise your hackles, but you can’t change it—you can only deal with its effects.
Stoya: Our writer will never replace the brother and that’s a good thing . The healthy relationship between spouses is an entirely different situation, with different feelings and different reasons to participate. Better reasons to participate.
Rich: I think this situation is going to require a tremendous amount of care and patience because it is so extraordinary. She may need decades to heal, and the process might be tough. Regarding how incest may affect development, I read this in a Counseling Today piece called “ Understanding and Treating Survivors of Incest ”:
Early onset of incest along with chronic exposure to complex trauma contexts interrupts typical neurological development, often leading to a shift from learning brain (prefrontal cortex) to survival brain (brainstem) functioning. As explained by Christine Courtois and Julian Ford, survivors experience greater activation of the primitive brain, resulting in a survival mode rather than activation of brain structures that function to make complex adjustments to the current environment. As a result, survivors often exhibit an inclination toward threat avoidance rather than being curious and open to experiences. Complex trauma undermines survivors’ ability to fully integrate sensory, emotional and cognitive data into an organized, coherent whole. This lack of a consistent and coherent sense of self and one’s surroundings can create a near ever-present sense of confusion and disconnection from self and others.”
Stoya: I’d like to take a moment to point out that this is why we’re so twitchy about incest. We in the general societal context, and we specifically here.
Rich: Yes, its scars can last years, decades beyond the abuse. It changes people.
Stoya: Our writer should know that he also gets to have boundaries. He might consider backing away from the fancy stuff for a while, sticking to vanilla, two-person, and off the record for a while. He doesn’t have to do anything that brings up negative associations for him.
Rich: Right. A good thing to practice in the interim between now and getting help, which is 100 percent necessary. I don’t think most people could handle stuff like this on their own.
Stoya: If they’re worried about being judged for the threesomes, etc., they can use a resource like AASECT or the Kink Aware Professionals network .*
Correction, July 13, 2020: This piece originally misidentified the American Association of Sexuality Educators, Counselors, and Therapists as ASSECT.
I’m a medical student who has a little bit of a crush on one of my interns at the hospital where I’m working in a COVID-19 unit. I didn’t think he was into me until a few days ago when he saw me changing into my scrubs and proceeded to flirt with me that afternoon. I’m horny as hell, as we probably all are in this era. This hookup, if it were to happen, would be mostly ethical regarding the virus if it happened at work in an on-call room. (We’re both working in the same COVID-19, have both had symptoms and recovered without testing, and both live alone.) He hasn’t mentioned a partner. I think with the way workplaces have changed in light of the #MeToo movement, he wouldn’t hit on me overtly. But I’m really not used to making the first move with men, unless I’m at a bar on my third drink. How do I show him I’m attracted and open to whatever he wants to do?
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