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Registration's totally free, of course, and makes snowHeads easier to use and to understand, gives better searching, filtering etc. When you register, you get our free weekly -ish snow report by email. It's rather good and not made up by tourist offices or people that love the tourist office and want to marry it either We don't share your email address with anyone and we never send out any of those cheesy 'message from our partners' emails either. Anyway, snowHeads really is MUCH better when you're logged in - not least because you get to post your own messages complaining about things that annoy you like perhaps this banner which, incidentally, disappears when you log in Username:- Password:. Or: Register to be a proper snow-head, all official-like! Prev topic :: Next topic. Poster: A snowHead. I looked at the photos of families playing card games on the TGV zooming to their ski holiday. I could see their smugness oozing out - the train takes the same time as flying, is faster than driving, and you can have a glass of Vin en route. I thought - yes! That's the life for me! I too can win at snap with my angelic children smiling next to me, save the environment and arrive rested for my holiday. So, we've booked the Chunnel instead and will drive down having marital tiffs along the way and braving the Farmer autoroute blockade instead. I would love to have a checklist of How To Get the Trains for next year from people that have managed it - especially any families. My checklist this year was: 1. Read lots of Snowheads forum posts about trains. Read Seat61, read Snowcarbon, get familiar with all the train ticket websites. Convince myself it's a great idea. Feel a bit disheartened. Convince my husband. Agree we'll get trains which only change in Paris with no extra changes. We'll go down on the Friday daytime and come back on the Saturday daytime. Decide on the trains and discover because we want tickets in April the French ones aren't available yet - and their timings may change. Debate whether to book the Eurostar now and the French tickets later, but eventually I decide not to because the French train times might change. Someone somewhere on the web said it was better to book it all together instead. Read Seat61 with lots of reassuring messages about not to worry about waiting to book train tickets. Go down a rabbit hole as to whether getting Interrail Global 5 day tickets would save us money. Feel undecided. Decide to wait and see when the SNCF issue their tickets. Book an Airbnb at Moutiers for the Friday night - finally, something is booked! Research Altibus vs private transfers from Moutiers. Don't book anything just in case. It's like I knew! Sign up to SNCF alerts. Feel worried it's now after Christmas and it's not sorted. Download the SNCF app. Jan 24th is a really busy day, my kids are late for school, work is busy, busy in the evening, I don't manage to book anything. Feel stressed. Ditto Jan 25th. Jan 26th I try to book the trains. Drum roll please! I try and book the Interrail seat reservations. I fail. It turns out the Eurostar seat reservations via Interrail were in fact not available after all. Would I like the 7am Eurostar instead of the 11am Eurostar from London? No thank you! I request an Interrail pass refund. Check the flights. Go back to the train pages. I'll just check the French train availability again OK deep breath. The tickets are there to be clicked, get to my basket, then an Error message. I try and buy the tickets on Trainline. They seem available but no - Error message. No, not possible - no tables of 4 for a family on the TGV one way, and on one leg no tickets available at all. I give up!! To all those that say it's easy - tell me what you do!!!!!! Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person. I travel by car. Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see? May need a rethink. You need to Login to know who's really who. It used to be so easy with Eurostar's direct service to Bourg Saint Maurice, but now seems to require the skills of an experienced travel agent just to book the tickets. Madness and maddening. Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do. Commiserations, jellyspoons , but also thanks for a very entertaining post. I have a daughter in law who lived in France from the age of 13, is bilingual, has worked in Paris, travels extensively by train and knows all about French trains and how the ticketing works. And she still struggles. Personally, I've never tried if I did need a train I'd ask her to sort it out for me. You'll need to Register first of course. Origen , Does she want a job????!!!! Then you can post your own questions or snow reports You have one, Niederau aged 4? After all it is free. Aw thanks for the commiserations, Origen, glad you enjoyed it. The funny thing is, my husband is a complete train buff and spends all his time on train websites. For some reason or another he seemed happy to let me lead on the project I wonder why!! I honestly feel a million times lighter now we've booked the Chunnel and hotels for driving there and back. On the plus side we can now stop to let my daughter vomit multiple times on the trip up to 3V, rather than being in the back of the Altibus with an overflowing sick bucket. You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net. Try flying to Lyon, then getting the train to moutiers. Or maybe geneva? Ski the Net with snowHeads. My friend and I also looked to book the train for our April trip to La Plagne. We came across much the same issues as you - potentially rushed train changes in Paris combined with long waits in Chambery to pick up the train to Aime La Plagne. Combine the aforementioned with a major problem in that there were not any trains that would get us into London early enough on a Sunday morning to catch the Eurostar meaning an overnight stay in London on the Saturday night. And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports. So if you're just off somewhere snowy come back and post a snow report of your own and we'll all love you very much. How to book French trains in French school holidays by gorilla aged 46, who should know better than to do stupid things like this. Book Eurostar when it comes out to travel on the Friday and back on the Saturday i. Line up accommodation on the Friday night in Paris. This will probably cost me a couple of bottles of something decent, which will be a fair slice of the cost of an Airbnb. Look at Snowcarbon blog. Two days out from SNCF booking opening, buy carte avantage and add to personal profile. It is imperative that you do this before booking day or it will slow you right down when it comes to step 6. Tickets are released at Set alarm for Get up at Go back to bed. You have about 25 minutes on ticket release day to buy tickets if the French are also on holiday. If you do not manage this then the trains will sell out and you will be screwed. I appreciate this sort of fun and games is not for everyone. If it's any consolation, I made a total hash of it this year and had to eat the cost of first on the outward leg. Final point, text alerts about the release of tickets from RailEurope etc are totally useless as they will arrive after the trains you want have sold out. You know it makes sense. Griggs , …it is a complete ffffffffup. Latest calc of train c gbp. Massive subsidies to airlines. Failure to link up ticketing across nations combined with irrational protection of national railway identity. Empty trains at many times. We have to get in the Yeti and driiiiiiiive. Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:. Fly and book a private transfer. I loved the postscript about your daughter's vomit opportunities too. I feel for her: as a child I used to decorate more or less every lamp post and tree between London and the Swiss Alps on our annual family summer holidays. Out of interest, what is the cost difference, for say a typical family of 4, to fly, train or drive it?? Same with the Train? Griggs , cheaper to stay in Paris and then allows you to catch the direct trains to the Tarentaise in the morning. Going by direct train tomorrow brussels-BSM. On previous occasions saw direct eurostar trains saying London. There must be a direct seasonal service from London to BSM as well then. Roscoe , The answer is that if you book early and get reasonable priced flights it will almost always be cheaper to fly. But - if you are unlucky or late flight prices get absolutely crazy for HT week, in which case it will always be cheaper to drive. There is no way I could do that more cheaply by driving, and no way would I get 8 full days and one morning skiing. I would definitely enjoy the planning, and being able to load everything once for the trip! One thing I do find strange is that many who do drive claim they get an extra day skiing as they can ski on the final Saturday before driving to a hotel somewhere along the route for Saturday night, and then back to blighty on Sunday. It's not 'extra' as anyone who flies and hires a car can do the same, staying at an airport hotel on Saturday and flying home on the Sunday. We have often flown late on Friday, hired a car and driven to a hotel somewhere on route to resort on that night. Full ish day skiing on the Saturday of arrival. Full ish day skiing on the final Saturday and drive to airport hotel for Saturday night. So 8 days skiing and home for lunchtime on Sunday, not exhausted. I have done the same with private transfers which allows a long and boozy lunch on the final Saturday, but prefer the flexibility of being able to visit other ski areas that hiring a car affords. Hurtle wrote: jellyspoons , commiserations, but thanks for the huge entertainment. On a serious note on this, there are plenty of ski resorts that don't involve a car or bus journey up a twisty mountain road, or where that can be avoided. Examples that spring to mind include: - Arc train then funicular - Pila, staying in Aosta - many Austrian resorts, e. SkiWelt or Mayrhofen - many Swiss resorts I'd be avoiding the high mountain French ski stations that involve twisty mountain roads. Wow, ok gorilla that's a bit of a reality check! Thank you! Seems like I was about 2. I hadn't realised that for some stupid reason. Thanks so much sugarmoma for highlighting that super useful thread - I'd read it a while ago but then I'd lost it in the months between thinking about buying the tickets and actually trying to buy them. Noted for next year!! I think a big issue was I totally indecisive about choosing whether to use Interrail passes or NOT interrail and do the Advantage carte instead. I just couldn't work out whether getting Interrail passes would be cheaper until the SNCF tickets became available so I gave up on the decision until then, and then it was too late. Does anyone know if it's possible to work out in advance if Interrail is worth it? If you're looking at starting booking things 6 months in advance will it always be cheaper with Interrail passes? Also, if I was to use interrail, do I still need to wake up at 5am on the date the SNCF tickets become available but instead use the Interrail seat reservations website or the Rail Europe site to book the seat reservations for the SNCF bit? Is it more likely that a table of 4 would be available if try and get SNCF tickets with Interrail or without interrail? I think one worry for me is that if I book the Eurostar bit directly 6 months in advance without an interrail pass , then I'll have already shelled out quite a lot of money for the Eurostar tickets if it then turns out I sleep through my 4. At least if I do interrail it seems I can get a refund if I can't get the trains I want although maybe not if I've already booked the Eurostar seat reservations with it I feel like the Interrail is a whole lot more complicated, but the non-Interrail feels riskier. Although actually that feels risky too. Either way it doesn't feel as easy as booking a Eurotunnel and driving! Love direct train. Task for today - pack and dowlo d netflix movies for a 6h ride. As I understand it, you need to do this in person at your local ticket office and get tickets to 'London CIV'. I suspect you could do it cheaper, if you had a suitable vehicle. A sixth person wouldn't cost any more. How many days skiing you get doesn't really depend as you pointed out on your mode of transport but driving gives you lots of flexibility. As I understand it, you need to do this in person at your local ticket office and get tickets to 'London CIV' Either that or just add it onto your electronic pass as a trip and just turn up. That gives you a QR code to scan you through the gates - from my experience and a colleague's the QR code won't actually work on the ticket gates in the UK but the staff will wave you thru' when you say it's Interrail. I'd not bother if I was on Interrail and would just make sure I'd left plenty of time. For clarity, the trip from Oxon to London is covered in the Interrail price - no need to prebook unless you're desperate to see if you can get a reservation to London CIV. You'll end up paying for the tube across London, though. From my experience of the Didcot - Paddington line, there's little point prebooking, as if the train is busy enough that you need a reservation, you probably won't be able to get down the aisle to it anyway. Hurtle wrote: sugarmoma , the roads didn't need to be twisty for me to throw up. Ah, that's more of a problem. Did trains create the same issues? I'm lucky, I'm fine on all sorts of transport. No way it would be cheaper. Not least at its a 9 hour drive to the tunnel for me. Fuel plus tolls plus milage on the car. Plus I either ski in Switzerland or Italy these days, so a longer drive at the other end. I think total milage would be at least each way. And when you say 'suitable vehicle' that means a very big one for us to take 6 x people, 6 x skis and boots plus usual luggage for 10 days so fuel costs would be a different order of magnitude than if an estate type car would work. Our XC90 plus roofbox could probably just about manage all the clobber but even that would be a squeeze I think. I guess if you drove it in a oner with no stops the cost might get close. But that would be a minimum 20 hour drive. And then there is the whole argument about depreciation etc. It is not free to drive miles, cars cost money as does the maintenance and it matters not where the miles are done the cost is the same. Most people simply ignore that cost as they see it is 'sunk', which it is not. I would likle to do it though. Just not at all practical from a cost or time perspective for us. For those keen to use train look at Austria. Innsbruck is easy to get to from Brussels sleeper from Amsterdam too. Websites in English. This has been very much on my radar, but haven't managed to make it work yet. In terms of the Nightjet, any idea how much luggage space there is? Is there somewhere to stow these. I'm not a big fan of St Anton but have considered doing the Zillertal resorts via Innsbruck or alternatively travelling to Salzburg area. Was fine with simply an LNER seat reservation on southbound leg and then we bought a cabin from Caledonian Sleeper for northbound. Train manager on both was fine knowing we had the interrail pass. The most expensive part is The EuroStar of course. We only just managed to board the German train about 5 secs before it pulled out. I've spent many happy hours with spreadsheets and timetables. That chap in Seat61 is brilliant of course. Cramped but we knew it would be and knew each other. I love overseas trains, the romantic thing of sitting comfortably whilst the countryside races by. Last Easter we made our way using an array of pre booked tickets to Moutiers. TGV was amazing, by contrast QUIGO trains were rubbish - packed like a sardine can not Saturdays , a young French women hogged 4 seats for herself and her cases, painfully slow stopping at every station at it seemed half the speed of Sussex commuter trains, the rolling stock is dated. The icing on the cake was a three hour delay at Lyons, sadly someone had taken their life. By contrast German and Austrian trains going to near Schladming in December were amazing. First class cheap as chips. With regard to Interrail, my impression though I havent checked it rigorously is that it might be worthwhile if you are booking late such that low price fares are no longer available - otherwise its likely to cost more unless you really need the flexibility. On another aspect I've enjoyed travelling by train and accepting that cost will never be close to cheap flights - But I might take a different view if I was lugging skis as well I think I boarded in excess of 10 vehicles each way - including local links - on my last trip! I havent used the sleepers so cant really comment but I know OEBB have introduced new upgraded trains. I can see that taking train from London to Amsterdam then sleeping on train to wake up in the Tirol would work but is going to be expensive I believe the trains stop at Jenbach for direct connection to the Zillertal. But a lot less hassle than messing around in Paris. MoaB wrote: With regard to Interrail, my impression though I havent checked it rigorously is that it might be worthwhile if you are booking late such that low price fares are no longer available - otherwise its likely to cost more unless you really need the flexibility. New Topic Post Reply. Snow Snow Snow! 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