Jane Jane Blackmail

Jane Jane Blackmail
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I think my successful sister will have sex with my fiancé - she threatening to steal him

'My wife's having sleazy sex with my mate after he invited her to the football'

'My girlfriend's so proud of her new boobs - she keeps getting them out at the pub'

I think my successful sister will have sex with my fiancé - she threatening to steal him

'My wife's having sleazy sex with my mate after he invited her to the football'

'My girlfriend's so proud of her new boobs - she keeps getting them out at the pub'

I think my successful sister will have sex with my fiancé - she threatening to steal him

'My wife's having sleazy sex with my mate after he invited her to the football'

'My girlfriend's so proud of her new boobs - she keeps getting them out at the pub'

I think my successful sister will have sex with my fiancé - she threatening to steal him

'My wife's having sleazy sex with my mate after he invited her to the football'

'My girlfriend's so proud of her new boobs - she keeps getting them out at the pub'

I think my successful sister will have sex with my fiancé - she threatening to steal him

'My wife's having sleazy sex with my mate after he invited her to the football'

'My girlfriend's so proud of her new boobs - she keeps getting them out at the pub'

I’M being blackmailed by my married boss who wants cash and sex from me.
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I stupidly told him that I have been moonlighting as an escort girl. Now he keeps threatening to tell my boyfriend the truth.
So far I’ve given him £2,000 in hush money. Now he wants more.
He is insisting that I find the money somehow and suggested I tell my parents that I’m addicted to gambling and need to pay off my debts. But the reality is that he’s the one who bets and owes money to some very nasty people.
I thought I could trust him. He seemed so concerned when he found me crying in a pub on my own.
I’d had too much to drink and my friends had left me. I stupidly blurted everything out.
I confessed that I’d done some escort work while at university in order to pay my bills. Then I told him that I was still seeing a couple of my old clients behind my boyfriend’s back, because I’d got so used to having the extra money.
He said he didn’t blame me and offered me a lift home. We kissed and touched each other a bit.
The next night he offered me another lift home and shocked me by asking for a £500 “loan”. He reminded me of our previous night’s conversation.
Now I’m terrified of him and what he is capable of. This horrible man could ruin me. He has even hinted that he’d like us to spend the weekend together – with me paying.
At the moment your revolting boss believes he holds all the cards. He knows your secret and is using it against you.
What you must do now is speak up in order to remove his power over you.
I understand that you are embarrassed and hate the idea of your boyfriend and parents finding out the truth. But unless you trash his trump card, he will attempt to control you forever.
The only way to defeat bullies is by standing up to them and, if he’s married and in a decent position at work, then I strongly suspect he has just as much to lose as you do over this whole mess.
Just remember that your parents and your fella love you and will do whatever happens.
Your sleazy boss is also breaking the law. Every time he threatens, frightens and relieves you of another £500 he is committing a crime.
Confess to your parents today. Then, with them, you can go to the police and bring this sorry episode out in the open.
Hopefully he’ll back off when he realises you won’t take this.

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Anyone have advice or been down this road before?

Someone has purchased a domain name in Jane's name and filled it with Facebook style pictures of Jane that were obtained via GIS. These are not the kind of pictures Jane would like her employer to see.

I would think so, it's public defamation. Jane should probably get in touch with a lawyer.

She should start by filing a police report.

You have done the basics, IE:
Finding who has registered the domain name?
Finding who hosts the site?
Notifying the hosting company?
Contacting a lawyer?

If the Pics were online anyway and found via an Internet Search, apparently they were already available for her employer to see, BUT, creating a website dedicated to that may be an issue for the person who "reposted" the pictures.

just WOW, I feel bad for her.

That's why you should always be careful when putting pics where they are accessible via the internet.

I would think so, it's public defamation. Jane should probably get in touch with a lawyer.

That's not quite true. If you post a picture of yourself on a billboard and attach your name to it and I take a picture of that billboard and put it in the newspaper you can hardly claim that I am defaming you. Now if I made rude comments about the picture, maybe. But not for republishing something that you already published. Copyright infringement, maybe, but not defamation.

You are saying they are posting pictures of Jane that they found on the internet doing a Google search.

How is that public defamation, Justin?

She should start by filing a police report.

Someone has purchased a domain name in Jane's name and filled it with Facebook style pictures of Jane that were obtained via GIS.

This is the key bit. If you did this to a company, say you got att.com, and tried to pretend to be AT&T, that isn't going to fly. I'm pretty sure you can't do this to a person either.

If you got the website www.scottalanmiller.com and put up pictures of flowers, there is nothing I can do to you. But if you put up that same site and pretend that you are me, then you are in trouble. The problem comes in in that we don't know if they are pretending to be Jane or not. Is it JUST pictures?

If you think about celebrities, they have websites with their names and pics made all the time by fans, stalkers, weird teenage girls, etc. And that is legal. Just a site dedicated to someone and showing public pictures that they themselves published is not strictly illegal. How they present it will be critical and very likely the only recourse is going to be a cease and desist.

Now, in your title you state that there was blackmail. I'm assuming that Jane has a letter from whoever stating that if she pays that the site will come down? Is it stated as blackmail or as a real estate offer?

For example, it would be very hard to go after someone if they said "Hey, made a sample site from your GIS images and I bet you'd love to buy this Internet real estate! Make me an offer!!"

Because, in some weird way, that is completely legitimate.

Sounds like Jane learned the lesson the hard way. If you want something to be private, keep it off the internet, or better yet, off any computer connected to a wire.

You might also approach as a matter of extortion rather than blackmail. There are definite legal differences.

Sounds like Jane learned the lesson the hard way. If you want something to be private, keep it off the internet, or better yet, off any computer connected to a wire.

This is one of the first rules I try to beat into game devs (in my previous life) - everyone things emails and private messages are... well, private. I try to remind them that anything they send to a user, no matter how private, is just a few clicks from being screen grabbed and posted on /b or something worse...

Sounds like Jane learned the lesson the hard way. If you want something to be private, keep it off the internet, or better yet, off any computer connected to a wire.

What's amazing is that ... would she have published it in a magazine or in a newspaper or on a billboard? Why then did she publish on Facebook?

You might also approach as a matter of extortion rather than blackmail. There are definite legal differences.

Yes, blackmail is a lot more "exacting."

To add to the discussion, unfortunately unless Jane can claim damage from that activity the police will not do anything. Also the owner of the site can be asked to remove the pictures at her request, and the refusal maybe the ground to a lot of things. I know for a fact that if after removal request she loses a job based on the exposure from that domain they will be liable for it.

Sounds like Jane learned the lesson the hard way. If you want something to be private, keep it off the internet, or better yet, off any computer connected to a wire.

This is one of the first rules I try to beat into game devs (in my previous life) - everyone things emails and private messages are... well, private. I try to remind them that anything they send to a user, no matter how private, is just a few clicks from being screen grabbed and posted on /b or something worse...

But then again, "real life" is just a few screen taps away from being captured on an iPhone and posted online too.

What's amazing is that ... would she have published it in a magazine or in a newspaper or on a billboard? Why then did she publish on Facebook?

I think people truly believe that they can make "their" content private.

I know for a fact that if after removal request she loses a job based on the exposure from that domain they will be liable for it.

How does that work? If she is the one who posted the pictures, wouldn't she be liable? They just reposted already public pictures. I'd find it really hard to believe that they could be found liable.

What if the statement above got you fired for some reason? Would I be liable for having responded to you and quoting the statement since I republished what you said? Yes, I called more attention to it by posting it again.

I know for a fact that if after removal request she loses a job based on the exposure from that domain they will be liable for it.

How does that work? If she is the one who posted the pictures, wouldn't she be liable? They just reposted already public pictures. I'd find it really hard to believe that they could be found liable.

What if the statement above got you fired for some reason? Would I be liable for having responded to you and quoting the statement since I republished what you said? Yes, I called more attention to it by posting it again.

As a proud owner, if she decided to remove her property from the public domain, she has all the rights to do so. They can be found liable after refusal, its her pictures after all.

There is a fine point between a picture and a word, one can always say that "this is my picture" :) I don't want to blow this out of proportion, but there is a difference when I submit my input here vs somebody re-post it elsewhere.

I would think so, it's public defamation. Jane should probably get in touch with a lawyer.

That's not quite true. If you post a picture of yourself on a billboard and attach your name to it and I take a picture of that billboard and put it in the newspaper you can hardly claim that I am defaming you. Now if I made rude comments about the picture, maybe. But not for republishing something that you already published. Copyright infringement, maybe, but not defamation.

True, but it depends on how these pictures were obtained. Hence why you should talk to a lawyer because there are so many things that can change the circumstances.

GIS is typically a Geographic Information System, so I don't know how you get great pics through something like that, but if it's a "Google internet search" then it's kind of her own fault.

You are saying they are posting pictures of Jane that they found on the internet doing a Google search.

How is that public defamation, Justin?

GIS to me doesn't scream "google". So I may have misunderstood.

If they are her photos it could be a copyright issue, I don't know where things stand with the facebook content ownership issue.

she can move to California and smoke anyone on internet privacy, i heard lawyers there are nasty on the subject. :) Best move would be:

1) Remove pictures from public domain.

2) Contact the owner of the domain and his hosting ISP with official request, notarized may do.

3) Get a lawyer if the request for removal fails.

She should start by filing a police report.

Since the word blackmail was used, and since we do not know the details, the police should be able to sort it out.

She should start by filing a police report.

Since the word blackmail was used, and since we do not know the details, the police should be able to sort it out.

Nothing indicated so far would make this a police issue. Blackmail in the title of the post means nothing.

And that's why I've never used Facebook and don't put any pictures of myself on the internet. Ever.

To add to the discussion, unfortunately unless Jane can claim damage from that activity the police will not do anything. Also the owner of the site can be asked to remove the pictures at her request, and the refusal maybe the ground to a lot of things. I know for a fact that if after removal request she loses a job based on the exposure from that domain they will be liable for it.

I'd be curious to know by what facts they would be held liable. Generally it wouldn't be defamation unless the photos were manipulated to give some sort of false context. Truth is a pretty solid defense.

Unless Jane is a minor, the police wouldn't have much to do with it anyway, as it is unlikely to be a criminal matter. Most of the time it would just be a civil matter, and to bring such a case would only further serve to embarass Jane down the road.

"Anyone have advice or been down this road before?

Someone has purchased a domain name in Jane's name and filled it with Facebook style pictures of Jane that were obtained via GIS. These are not the kind of pictures Jane would like her employer to see.

Any recourse for this person?"

When you say purchased a domain name in Jane's name, do you mean www.jane'sname.com or do you mean registering the domain as Jane. For the former, no recourse, for the latter, probably.

Further recourse (legal): Probably not. It's not defamation, invasion of privacy The best course might to be to find out (if possible) who posted them and why they did it. Jame might be able to convince them to take it down. Record any such conversation (check your state laws for how to do it legally). It could go to extortion or blackmail there, and then you would actually have grounds to get something done.

If they are just a jerk with a grudge who used google, Jane is pretty well hosed.

And the double-bonus is that any legal action is more likely to expose the website to her employers.

As a proud owner, if she decided to remove her property from the public domain, she has all the rights to do so. They can be found liable after refusal, its her pictures after all.

There is a fine point between a picture and a word, one can always say that "this is my picture" :) I don't want to blow this out of proportion, but there is a difference when I submit my input here vs somebody re-post it elsewhere.

Being the subject of a photo does not make someone the "owner" of the photo. Ownership in this case would depend on how it was placed onto the internet. Depending on where and how, the photos may well be in the "public domain".

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