Jake Was Drunk Josie Was Drunk
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Jake Was Drunk Josie Was Drunk
*First Published: Jul 17, 2015, 9:40 pm CDT
Posted on Jul 17, 2015 Updated on May 28, 2021, 8:14 am CDT
Earlier this week, a controversial anti-rape poster aimed at educating college students about sexual assault on campus began circulating the Internet.
Despite its intentions, Reddit users are not happy about it.
In the poster, the man (Jake) has an arm draped around the woman’s (Josie’s) shoulders. Josie is laughing and smiling at Jake, while he looks directly at the camera. Both are holding glasses of what we can assume to be alcohol. The following text is also included:
Jake was DRUNK. Josie was DRUNK.
Jake and Josie hooked up. Josie could not consent.
The next day JAKE was charged with RAPE.
A woman who is intoxicated cannot give her legal consent for sex, so proceeding under these circumstances is a crime.
It only takes a single day to ruin your life.
Think About it! Be responsible.
When the poster began making its rounds on the Internet, redditors were outraged, arguing that the poster insinuates Jake cannot be raped because he is a male.
According to these posts, it also undermines the equality feminists have been fighting for.
The sentiment on Twitter was similar, with people wondering why Josie couldn’t be accused of rape just as easily as Jake.
Josie and Jake both made an adult decision while drunk, but Jake is the only one held responsible for it. pic.twitter.com/TdEwMQCcfr
— Brandon Morse (@TheBrandonMorse) July 11, 2015
Ok but by this logic Jake was raped too then pic.twitter.com/exIPKdX6XF
— the littiest titty (@fatalitiess) July 12, 2015
Good thing the law determines the crime of rape and not some #SJW , PC college poster. https://t.co/GsuJzGVsJc pic.twitter.com/CZwtbois4W
— Steven Crowder (@scrowder) July 13, 2015
If it was “Jake coerced Josie to drink and then they ‘hooked up'” or vice versa, sure. But that was just…no
— Yoni Morrison (@femiBRIsta) July 13, 2015
Jake and Josie Hook Up Drunk. Does Josie Rape Jake? https://t.co/04h3eqyp1d
— Bryan Grooms (@bgrizzle70) July 13, 2015
@alkalinesurge And yeah looking at this again,they both hooked up. Josie couldnt consent, but neither could Jake, and that leap of logic >.<
Though the poster was featured on Reddit threads this week, it was unclear who created and distributed the image. One Reddit user noted there appeared to be a logo in the bottom corner of the poster that could lead to the source.
Another user allegedly contacted an official at Coastal Carolina University for confirmation.
Debbie Conner, the vice president for campus life and student engagement at Coastal Carolina University, confirmed to the Daily Dot that the poster originated from the university. Conner said it was published in 2008 by the Campus Assault Resource Education Support Coalition, made up of students, faculty, and staff at the university. “It went out of circulation in 2008,” she said.
According to Conner, this poster wasn’t widespread across CCU’s campus. “I don’t even remember this poster, and I’ve had a few people say that they printed probably 20 of them, and were on a few bulletin boards on campus, but it wasn’t a big campaign.”
Conner also says she isn’t sure what Coastal students’ reactions were to the poster.
“It was seven years ago… So, I have no earthly idea what people said about it, because it was not in my area of responsibility at the time. I don’t even remember that poster even being on the campus,” she said.
Conner believes the original post on Reddit was by a former Coastal student who had a photo of the poster.
“I thought it was really interesting they were even talking about consent in 2007, 2008. It’s a little misguided as a poster, currently,” she said.
As far as why the poster is surfacing now, “I’m sure the conversations around sexual violence continue on social media and many other platforms that it can start quite a good discussion,” she said.
According to Conner, this poster is no longer used at the university.
“The most disconcerting thing for me is that it’s been posted and people don’t understand it’s not something we use or currently endorse on our campus,” she said.
Below is an image of a current anti-rape poster used at Coastal Carolina University, also sponsored by the CARES Coalition.
Photo via Debbie Conner/Coastal Carolina University
“I think it’s important to know that we do spend a lot of effort in educating our students,” Conner said. “We do have required education regarding sexual violence for incoming students and continued education for students on campus.”
“It’s a topic taken very seriously here,” she added. “And, we continue to move forward with the best practices in the area.”
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I once got into an argument with a feminist on this topic on this site. I was later banned. GG moderators
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I am wondering if technology is capable of sorting or helping with this mess of consent, information, and "morning after, what the hell happened?" A phone app that asks each person a single screen of questions. With each field being shared, hidden, unanswered (by choosing a S/H/U flag to the left of the question) Questions like. First Name Last Name Telephone #/sms/email DOB Age Do you have any STDs? Do you plan on using a barrier? Are you under the influence of alcohol? Are you under the influence of drugs? Are you planning on having sex? And when finished, the phone uses the camera to snap an image. They then hand it to their potential partner, who answers the same questions for themselves, gets a pic of their face snapped. And then the event is geo-tagged and presents them with their potential partners answers with a "Do you agree to have sex with this person?" and the phone going back between parties 1 and 2. That way, the morning after, if someone's memory isn't clear, they have a log of what they said (facts or lies) what the other person said (facts or lies) and if either party disputes the events or statements, there is the mutual agreement along with each of their selfies. It would take as long to complete the process as it would to wait for the bartender to bring you your next round, and it would indicate a level of consent and show a level of truthfulness in the areas that responsible people who are about to have sex should discuss or at least acknowledge. Yeah, it takes away a level of mystery and romance, but it also means that you've potentially (provided that no one's lied or hidden their information) the ability to follow-up with the person, avoid an accusation that you took advantage of, or documents of who you were with and where if a crime does occur.
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Wow. Yeah, logically, that could go either way. She could just as easily be at fault, though good luck getting that one to stick. I will never be able to wrap my mind around that. I have, in the past, gotten drunk with a man whom I ended up sleeping with. While I may not have been proud of it later, and may even have regretted it, I've never called -blam!- over it. While I may not have legally been able to give consent, in the moment I still wanted it. Regardless of whether I regretted it once sobering up or not. Smh.
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Jake was drunk, Josie was drunk, Josie gave Jake a BJ, Josie sexually assaulted Jake.
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Yup, if both parties cannot soberly consent then its -blam!-. At least that's what the military teaches us. So they -blam!- each other....he should counter charge her with -blam!-.
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I love how no females have commented on this but oh no if there was some "misogynist" post they would be all over it.
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We know someone who was accused of -blam!- a few years ago. No -blam!- happened, they met on a night out, she was a friend of a friend that was coming out with us that night. She had a few to drink, went home with one of the lads and they had sex. Next day her husband asked her where she went that night so she lied to him and told him her drink was spiked and she woke up in a lads house naked. The problem there was 9 of them slept in that house on that night, 4 of which were her friends, not ours. No one backed up her story and the tox test came back clear. She was charged with wasting police time, got quite a hefty fine and her husband divorced her without having to split his money because she was caught cheating so cleared up in court. She cried -blam!- and lost everything but had she managed to pull it off, my friend would have lost everything so she got what she deserved. He now has CCTV in his living room and gets consent on camera before moving to the bedroom ... where he doesn't film, hopefully.
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That really happens, and sometimes they even get found guilty in court. In my younger days I loved me some hot drunk girl attention as much as the next guy, but I would never bed them for this very reason. I would get a number and call/text the next day and bang them later, which usually worked.
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