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Is Retard Strength Real
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Humans are actually much stronger than we seem. Most of the time everyone is exercising a large amount of self-restraint, mostly subconsciously. When you lose control (because of mental issues or simply rage or panic) you can tap into that "extra" strength. Really, it was there all along, but it's damaging to the body to use so much strength, so the body teaches itself not to do so except in times of great stress.
I don’t know about “retard” strength but I worked as an orderly at a mental hospital and saw an extremely petite young woman having a psychotic episode require five full grown men to hold her down and then receive an injection of enough Haldol to put down an elephant just to calm down to “normal”.
Currently work at a facility. One kid is around 4'11 and 110 lbs and takes 4 men to gain control during supine holds
I worked with behavioral developmentally disabled people for about 12 years. Some of them were really unreasonably strong for their size. A few people have already mentioned some of the reasons. I also saw the other end of the spectrum where people had such low muscle tone that they could barely stand. Its not a constant. And the term, "retard strength" isnt exactly a great one to use.
Depends on how people define it, but given my experience with many severely behavioral people, retard strength isn't a real thing for the most part.
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We've all thought it. Now it's time to tard-duke it out. So, what's the deal with retard strength?
Retard strength is probably the ability to not control your own strength. For example, if I'm about to punch you, I would probably slow down a bit (subconsciously), to avoid hurting my hand.
A "retard" wouldn't have such consideration.
In martial arts and boxing, you are trained to go against your instinct and punch through whatever you are punching. A "retard" may not have that instinct to slow down their punch.
Yep. And also there's a fact that a "challenged" person may be more likely to whip themselves into a frenzied temper tantrum where they fight at full force like their life depends on it.
Is their any truth or science behind "retard strength"?
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But I DO think ‘Retard Strength’ would be an awesome name for a punk rock band!
Hmm…Come to think of it, as a kid I do remember a ‘tard or two who went beast mode and exhibited particularly impressive strength after being teased beyond his tolerances.
I'm thinking maybe it has somethin to do with how they tucked their shirts into their underwear? Giving em a sort of psychological, super hero uniform. Thus enhancing their strength?
Disclaimer: Although you may have the Physical strength to, it still isn't recommended that you go fight a Chimp or try to carry a car; you need to either be incredibly desperate or stark raving mad for your strength to show, plus you may hurt yourself
Humans if using their full strength, are actually much stronger than a Chimp in a similar weight category. And as we all know, those tough little fuckers are infamous for their strength and for commiting atrocities against Humans like some dismemberment and mauling. But then, at any given moment we can o
Disclaimer: Although you may have the Physical strength to, it still isn't recommended that you go fight a Chimp or try to carry a car; you need to either be incredibly desperate or stark raving mad for your strength to show, plus you may hurt yourself
Humans if using their full strength, are actually much stronger than a Chimp in a similar weight category. And as we all know, those tough little fuckers are infamous for their strength and for commiting atrocities against Humans like some dismemberment and mauling. But then, at any given moment we can only use 50% of a group of Motor Units at any given time. Any other wild animal can give their all straightaway, including Chimps. Not us Humans. All those suggesting that small Chimps are much stronger than Humans are basically saying: A Chimp using every single ounce of his strength is exponentially stronger than a Human using only some of his or her strength, and will rip apart the Human. Of course the damn chimp will win under those unfair conditions.
Why are Humans seemingly so weak then? Our Muscles mainly Oxidise Glucose for energy, while animals use primarily Anaerobic Glycolysis. We produce much more energy for use than animals, but as a trade off they produce more energy per second, much faster than us. To cut a long story short, Muscles move by Actin and Myosin Bridges. When you send a Signal, the energy used detatches Myosin from the Actin and sends it hurtling further up the Actin belt until it finds another binding site on the Actin, then the process repeats until it is contracted or moved to the desired position. Each cycle is called a Twitch, and each twitch needs energy to happen, hence all the Fast and Slow Twitch Fibers you see on Muscle Forums and the like. Yeah, your Muscles are like Mini Grappling Hooks, isn't that cool? As you can expect, the fastest Twitch Speed (How fast your Muscles can cycle through the Binding) the Muscle can reach and the maximum force the Myosin can attain when hurtling towards a new bonding site are factors that determine your full potential (I.e Maximum Strength). Although the Brain regulates how much strength is used by Recruiting only certain Muscle portions, it also can control the strength output of each individual Myocyte (Muscle Fiber) by modifying the above 2 factors.
As to those of you who have great attention to detail might have already guessed, Glycolytic “Fast Twitch” Muscle, named so because of the high Speed it can cycle at, and vice verse for slow twitch, may produce less energy than the Oxidative “Slow Twitch” Muscle in total, but it produces more energy per second and much faster. Because it cycles faster, the things it can lift or whatever are much more than the slower cycling muscles. This is also why muscles ache after intense use. Contrary to popular belief Lactate or rather Lactic Acid barely even affects muscle function. Rather, this arises when the Actin and Myosin Crossbridges are overstressed from so much activity or when the load is incrementally larger than the maximum force Myosin can give from latching on to the Actin Strip. As you might have guessed, Fast Twitch Muscle Cycles the crossbridging so fast that it overstresses their Myofibrils (The Containers the Actin and Myosin Bridges reside in) within mere seconds or slightly over a minute if the animal is built for it, exponentially much faster than Slow Twitch Muscles. Not only that, their Crossbridges are designed specifically for raw power but overlooks endurance, while Slow Twitch has Crossbridges that are much sturdier. In addition, the Metabolism this type of Muscle uses while faster at producing energy than slow twitch is really REALLY ineffecient. Not only does it produce a lot less energy in total, (Output of around 3-5 per 1 Metabolic activity as opposed to Oxygen related means yielding 35 energy for 1 Metabolic activity!!), it produces lots of Lactate as an unwanted byproduct. Granted this doesn't affect the Muscle much, but it becomes the body's job to clear up the Lactate and with the amount of Lactate produced it has to work extra hard to do so. But the single fatal flaw it has is the requirements. Oxygen related Metabolism in Muscles will eat just just about anything and turn it into a TON of energy. You can even feed it fat directly and it's perfectly content with that. But not the Fast Twitch. In contrast, it greedily sucks up jaw dropping amounts of Glucose to power itself when it is exerting force on something. It doesn't accept anything besides Glucose or Glycogen. And it consumes so much of it yet produces laughable amounts of energy, albeit just faster than the other form of Metabolism. The huge amount of Glucose being sucked from your blood to power this soon takes a heavy toll on you. You feel very tired and want nothing more than to crawl into bed.
So, what happens when you are under the extreme life or death situations? We Humans normally don't get to utilize our full strength. Our bones may be strong for our size and weight, but they would never be able to sustain the maximum capacity of our Muscles if we did that all the time. Normally we are kept from this in many ways. Our Brain firstly restricts how hard each individual Myocyte, or Muscle Cell can pull. Almost never are we allowed to pull a single one at full force. Second, as a species we primarily have Slow Twitch Myocytes, so under normal conditions their Twitch would never be fast enough to sustain a heavy load. Third, our Central Nervous System never lets us use all our Myocytes, even when we try very hard to. Some signals are automatically cut and suppressed before our Muscles get them. Ever felt the time when you desperately tried to lift that barbell/weight/whatever in the gym yet you couldn't, but never felt any pain? That's your recruited portion of Slow Twitch struggling to cycle hard and fast enough to lift said thing, but because Slow Twitch is very enduring you don't feel pain. But ever eventually managed to grab hold of it eventually and try to lift it over your head and suddenly felt the searing pain in your arm after a while? Because you did manage to grab onto something your Slow Twitch cannot support, the Brain has to call in what little Faster Twitch Muscles are available. And those burn out really fast. Of course if you activated every single Slow Twitch and some Faster Twitchers and made each and every one of them pull to maximum force you would be able to do many things easily, including easily flex a 50 kilogram barbell, but because of aforementioned reasons (CNS Restrictions) you cannot do so.
In an extreme situation however, hell breaks loose pretty quickly. Suddenly the automatic system that yells “POWER BACK!!!” when you try to use force goes dead silent. Nothing is there to stop you now. Your Recruitment System now can use every single Muscle as it pleases, and as much as it wants to. This advantage is almost immediately evident as you realise you suddenly have no trouble throwing punches. Pain becones non existant. But the thing that truly makes Humans nearly 3 times stronger than they are isn't this. It's a very hacky solution from nature, but is extremely overpowered.
Remember how we talked about Twitch Speed? As we all know, Fast Twitch is the strength wise better one. All animals are strong because they pack lots of Fast Twitch into a very dense bundle, and also because their Myosin and Actin Crossbridges are somewhat of a better quality than ours. When an animal gives it's all, it gets Epinephrine (Better known as Adrenaline) and Norepinephrine (A different variant of Adrenaline called Noradrenaline) to further increase it's strength, by numbing the effects of overstressed Crossbridges, temporarily increasing Glucose to an all time high so they have no trouble providing Glucose for the hungry Fast Twitch for a limited time, and also causing the Muscles to be a little more effecient and they hit harder than they usually do. But this is not the case with Humans.
Nature took a huge gamble and designed Humans much differently. And what do you know? It worked! Instead of doing the same Fast Twitch trick like with other animals, Humans have a very hacky solution. Our Slow Twitch Muscles respond to Epinephrine much more prominently. It sends their Twitch Speed into Overdrive. The normally slow Oxidative processes suddenly acclerate so much that they reach the same speeds as the Fast Twitch ones, and even sometimes surpass them, with little to no decrease in energy. Suddenly Slow Twitch Muscles are cycling at such a speed that they don't even resemble Human strength. And if you remember, Slow Twitch Muscles eat just about anything, produces a crap ton of energy from so little substrate (Power source), and have Crossbridges much more durable than Fast Twitch. What happens when you make them as fast as their counterpart? Chaos. Because they produce so much energy there's no danger of the Human running out of energy anytime too, because their Muscles aren't draining lots of Glucose from the blood, and because there's so much energy that means more can be used to propel the Myosin, which means they hit a LOT harder now. And because Slow Twitch Crossbridges can easily withstand stress forget about hoping that said Human’s Muscles will start to ache and burn. Now you have a Human who has near infinite stamina, and hits VERY hard. You're now going to be in a world of hurt unless you're a Bear. Humans at maximum can partially lift slightly less than half a ton. Only ape that's stronger is a Gorilla.
However, this is not the only advantage we Humans have. In animals a single Motor Neuron innervates many Myocytes, around 10 of them. We have one Motor Neuron to around 1 or 2. This is why we are capable of fine Motor Control. When we are under those kinds of stress, our fine Motor Control System is capable of acting like our ape brethren, but retains ability for Fine Motor Control. In addition, our high level thinking like the Frontal Cortexes do not shut down like in a normal animal, it fires into overdrive along with the rest of our Brain, allowing us to make intelligent decisions despite under extreme rage/whatever, giving us much of an edge over animals.
At an educated estimate, roughly the maximum a regular average adult can lift is nearly 500 kilograms, which is almost half a ton and well over a thousand pounds, as evidenced by all those people lifting cars up- and even gender doesn’t matter, as teenage girls have pushed huge tractors off their parents, and a 19 year old girl has carried a car off another person as well. At the very low end of this spectrum, we have around several hundred pounds, and would get a figure of 500 to 700 pounds at least, and they are still an impressive 315 and 225 kilograms respectively, nothing to scoff at. Even for the average youth, the figure would probably be on the order of more than 150 kilograms, more than enough to lift regular gym barbells clean off the ground, and those things usually weigh 45kg, and as many gym goers can attest, it is usually a struggle to lift barbells of that size. So, if you can’t perform in a gym or are struggling to lift a heavy weight don’t be disheartened, for you would be able to easily pick it up should you actually have to.
We are already multiple times stronger than we actually need to be. We may be weaker compared to those Big Cats and Great Apes, but pretty much nothing else under or around our weight class with the exception of maybe Chimpanzees and Large Dogs including wolves can reliably win us in a fight. And even with Chimps and dogs or wolves, we can mess them up bad in return if they maul us. Mutual destruction, I'll take that over a complete loss. Sure, a hippo or crocodile or horse is stronger than a human, but they're also much bigger than us, and it's not just us that have problems fighting them, even tigers and lions sometimes bravely and honourably die fighting them to protect families. Just be grateful that nature was kind enough let us keep all this excess strength, otherwise we would be so Physically weak a tiny kitten could easily kill us!
Note: I do not go by the studies done in the articles below. The ones i picked below are for the examples of people lifting heavy objects, and not where i got the knowledge of Human Strength from, so the research done in them may contradict my point, but i still stand by it. I also felt some would say that since Tom Boyle was a weightlifter hence allowing him to lift the car, so i added additional links to people who are regular non weightlifting Humans doing the same thing too
And of course, existing biology knowledge, and some late night studies into how Hysterical Strength actually works
Remember, the Chimp already has the maximum strength listed out, even with Adrenaline and Hormonal and Neural Overloads active, but not Humans, this is only a fraction of their strength, so that should say a lot
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These people just take these Grant's and their own personal agendas and make up studies that show whatever they want.
I have spent enough time at colleges and universities to be able to know this is done. And it pisses me off and gives science a bad name. Science is about results and logical information and facts,
Wine is good for you. Wine is bad for you. Wine is good for you. Wine is bad for you. It seems to be a never ending list of studies that show something as healthy and another list that says it isn't. Common sense says moderation. But, there is no conclusive proof one way or the other.
These people just take these Grant's and their own personal agendas and make up studies that show whatever they want.
I have spent enough time at colleges and universities to be able to know this is done. And it pisses me off and gives science a bad name. Science is about results and logical information and facts, not opinions. This is why we will never know a great many things.
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