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Does Reddit still have a child porn problem?
September 3, 2014 at 12:54 p.m. EDT
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Of all the disturbing revelations to come out in the aftermath of last weekend’s “Celebgate” spectacle , perhaps none was more shocking — or more gross — than the fact that Olympic gymnast McKayla Maroney says she was underage when her photos were taken.
Maroney, now 18, was one of more than 100 celebrities victimized by a so-called “underground celeb n00d-trading ring,” who strong-armed their way into the women’s Apple iCloud accounts and posted the naked pictures they found there online. The people who hacked the photos already faced theoretical charges ranging from wire fraud to identity theft.
Now they may add a new crime to the list: dissemination of child porn.
Given the seriousness of that allegation (and the legal and PR repercussions it implies), Reddit has been very hasty to address the issue. On Tuesday afternoon, a moderator in the Reddit forum /r/thefappening — the place that arguably did the most to bring the images to a mainstream audience — made a panicked appeal to members to stop posting pictures of Maroney and to delete any existing photos from their hard drives. It also instructs them to stop posting photos of Liz Lee, an MTV star whose underage nude photos were not part of this latest hack but have still been making the Internet rounds.
Which is all well and good for Maroney and Lee, two public figures with publicists and lawyers and a legion of fans on alert for abuse. It doesn’t do much to help other young women whose photos might end up in questionably tasteful forums like /r/randomsexiness or /r/youngporn, where youthful photos are frequent, provenances are unknown and subjects’ ages are rarely disclosed.
“We have very few rules here on reddit; no spamming, no cheating, no personal info, nothing illegal, and no interfering with the site’s functions,” Reddit declared in a 2012 policy change , made in response to a Gawker article that found troves of child porn in forums like /r/jailbait. “Today we are adding another rule: No suggestive or sexual content featuring minors.”
To that effect, Reddit banned a series of forums that explicitly sexualized children in their names or descriptions. But the site did not do anything to root out photos of underage teens in other forums, besides ask that viewers contact the forums’ (unpaid, anonymous and highly political) moderators with specific concerns.
Part of this situation springs from necessity, of course. Reddit is a sprawling beast: In any given month, it can see well over 100 million visitors who view billions of active and inactive pages.
But part of that is also due to the structure of Reddit’s moderation system , a dense hierarchy of volunteers who, for the most part, are accountable to no one besides the people in their forums. Reddit employs only a handful of “community managers” to oversee them, and even they try to stay militantly hands-off. (“We will tirelessly defend the right to freely share information on reddit in any way we can, even if it is offensive,” the 2012 policy change read.) Forum moderators aren’t exactly honor-bound to field complaints, either.
“I emailed an admin about a preteen_girls thread EXPLICITLY showing photos of child porn,” complained one user in 2012. “Nothing was done, NOTHING, which is what I expected.”
And so, Reddit still hosts virtually every kind of filth and depravity you can conceive of — and probably quite a bit that you can’t. There is rape porn. There are collections of dead children. There are many, many nude photographs of women who appear to be just at, if not under, the age of majority.
Are some of them under 18? Probably. Whenever you provide an open, anonymous and unquestioning forum for pornographic images, a few are going to slip below the line unseen.
Reddit did not respond to a request for comment on the issue, and it’s unclear what, exactly, the site could do to better police the issue. It’s impossible — not to mention against Reddit’s core ethos — to pre-screen the millions of links and images that flow through the site daily. It’s also far from fail-safe to slap a warning on a page and hope that users will happily comply.
Perhaps the bottom line is that there’s always a dark side to what Reddit glibly terms “free speech places” online. Maroney, sadly, is not the only victim — nor is her ordeal over. According to the piracy news site TorrentFreak , more than 1 million people have downloaded the #Celebgate photos from PirateBay, where they remain widely available. And Pirate Bay’s policy on child porn makes Reddit’s look strict.
“To report child abuse or other similar unlawful activities, please do so to your local authority,” the site coolly recommends .
The subtext, both there and and on Reddit: Deal with it yourselves.
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The woman said she visited the subreddit and saw pictures of "several dozen" young girls, many of them Indigenous.
A Saskatchewan mother is asking for authorities and companies to do more to combat the sexual exploitation of minors online after she discovered her daughter’s name was published on a section of the website Reddit that appeared to show naked photos of underage girls from this province.
The Leader-Post spoke with the woman, who lives in a small community in the north. She recently found out her 16-year-old daughter’s name was attached to an explicit photo that was posted on the website. The woman’s name and her location are known to the Leader-Post, but the paper is choosing not to publish that information to protect the identity of the girl.
The woman said she’d been fighting an uphill battle trying to get the subreddit taken down by the company. She called the experience “horrifying.”
“It’s incredibly vulnerable. And not only that, but the fact that there doesn’t appear to be any means of ending it is almost unfathomable,” she said.
Reddit is a popular American-based website where users can form communities called subreddits and share posts, images and videos.
The woman said she visited the subreddit and saw pictures of “several dozen” young girls, many of them Indigenous. Not only that, but the girls were identified by name and location.
“There are men who were actually going on there and specifically requesting girls and then others are providing naked pictures of the girls that are being requested,” said the woman.
The woman has a background in education, and recognized many of the girls as members of her community from northern Saskatchewan. She said one photo is of a girl, who is now an adult, that has had an explicit photo of her being shared online since she was 14.
“I can say with a lot of confidence that these are underage girls,” said the woman.
The woman attempted to report the photo with her daughter’s name to Reddit through the website’s reporting tools, but found it difficult to add comments to explain what she was seeing.
“There’s literally no way of contacting this company to say, ‘Hi, by the way, you have naked children on your site,'” she said.
She said after filing the report she received a notification from Reddit saying there were no issues with the photo she reported. She then filed a report with the U.S. Department of Justice, called the FBI and then her local RCMP detachment.
The Leader-Post contacted Reddit for comment, and was told by a spokesperson that the subreddit has now been banned.
“Our sitewide policies prohibit any intimate or sexually explicit media of someone without their consent. In line with these policies, the subreddit in question has been banned.”
Reddit declined to answer any further questions, such as how the subreddit got past its moderation systems and for how long it was online.
Staff Sgt. Shawn Stubbs, the co-ordinator of the province’s Internet Child Exploitation Unit (ICE), said he was not aware of the subreddit but would have a member of his team look into it. Stubbs said the action police take would depend on wether the people publishing the content are based out of the province.
“Depending who put it on there, we may send it to the States and they would work on it. Or if it’s a Saskatchewan-based person that put it on, then we would go and we would work on it,” said Stubbs.
This is sadly not the first time the woman’s daughter has been victimized online. The same explicit photo was circulated through cell phone messages last year.
The woman reported the explicit photo to the RCMP, which sent the file to ICE, which then contacted law enforcement in the U.S. Several months later, the woman was told by police that nothing could be done.
Previous to the photo, both the woman and her daughter were receiving sexually explicit messages on Facebook. The accounts were fake, but the woman said she the names on the accounts were local to her community. The woman said she was told by the RCMP that the messages likely came from outside Canada, but she suspects they came from someone local to the area who knows her family, at least by reputation.
“I worry about when does this end? At what point do do adults actually start stepping up and putting an end to the sexual exploitation of minors online? Like this is a common problem,” she said.
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