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When you think of Game Of Thrones, you probably think of dragons, Jon Snow’s man bun, and incest — probably in that order. The HBO fantasy epic is so serious about inappropriate family-member loving, the very first episode of the series, "Winter Is Coming," ends with Cersei (Lena Headey) and Jaime Lannister (Nikolaj Coster-Waldau) having doggy-style sex in a tower and then flinging Bran Stark (Isaac Hempstead Wright) out of said tower to keep their relationship hidden. In fact, the final words of the opening installment are Jaime announcing, "The things I do for love," as he pushes a 10-year-old Bran to what the knight believes will be the young child’s death. That is an intense dedication to incest. So, does that mean Thrones is to blame for the recent incest boom on television?
Game of Thrones certainly isn’t the first television show in history to deal with the taboo topic. Series from Arrested Development to Twin Peaks have dipped into the incest pond. Throughout Arrested, the awkward George Michael Bluth (Michael Cera) is absolutely in love with his "cousin" Maeby Fünke (Alia Shawkat), whose mom Lindsay (Portia de Rossi) was actually adopted into the Bluth family. In Twin Peaks, a possessed Leland Palmer (Ray Wise) raped and murdered his own daughter, Laura Palmer (Sheryl Lee). On top of all this, there’s the aggressively inbred McPoyle clan on It’s Always Sunny In Philadelphia, with their love of milk and unibrows. While all of these incestuous storylines pre-date Game Of Thrones by nearly a half-decade or more, the premium cable drama does something no TV blockbuster went all-in on before: making one of the core romantic relationships both incestuous and 100 percent serious.
The entire first season of Game Of Thrones revolves around Ned Stark (Sean Bean) slowly unraveling Cersei and Jaime’s elaborate relationship cover-up, which may have — but surprisingly didn’t — ended in the murder of the original King’s Hand, Jon Arryn (John Standing). The under-the-radar relationship did, however, result in regicide, as Cersei killed King Robert Baratheon (Mark Addy) to hold on to her secret (among many other nefarious reasons). From there, Cersei and Jaime’s tumultuous relationship is one of the most long-running, detail-heavy of the series. Think of all the relationships Thrones started with. Only the Lannister duo is still going somewhat strong, as both halves of the couple remain breathing. Fan-favorite couple Samwell Tarly (John Bradley) and Gilly (Hannah Murray) didn’t meet until season 2. Semi-platonic ideal Arya Stark (Maisie Williams) and Gendry Waters (Joe Dempsie) have been separated for several seasons. And basically every other Westerosi who’s ever been in love is dead or in mourning.
It’s worth noting Thrones’ incest isn’t limited to the Golden Twins Of Casterly Rock. When we first meet Daenerys Targaryen (Emilia Clarke), her brother Visreys Targaryen (Harry Lloyd) is obsessed with her. That’s not surprising, as we're often reminded the royal Targaryen family almost always practiced inbreeding to keep their line "pure" and bar any other families from claiming a right to the Iron Throne. Gilly's father Craster (Robert Pugh), a Wildling and vague Night’s Watch ally, kept a harem filled with only his daughters before he died. Throughout his life, Craster raped his female children — in order to have even more daughters to "marry" — and murdered his sons by way of sacrificing them to the White Walkers. Even many fans’ dream Thrones ship is incestuous, as everyone is waiting for Jon Snow (Kit Harington) to marry his dragon queen aunt Daeny, officially creating the song of ice and fire.
With all of this familial love, it’s impossible not to see how a show watched by millions, and pirated by even more, could make incest seem a little bit less shocking for television. This becomes especially true when you realize the biggest, weirdest, and most explicit moments of incestuous television happened years after Game Of Thrones first premiered in 2011.
In March 2014, Norma (Vera Farmiga) and Norman Bates (Freddie Highmore) shared a not-in-the-least-way chaste kiss in Bates Motel’s "The Immutable Truth" to close out season 2. By the next season, the pair is sharing a bed, spooning, and not exactly acting like a cookie cutter mother-son pair. With all of this sexual tension in the air, it’s no surprise Norman also starts seeing super-sexy hallucinations of his mother everywhere. In the same year Norma and Norman were enjoying their bizarre lovers paradise, Pretty Little Liars revealed the identity of puppetmaster "A." The Rosewood tormenter turned out to be CeCe Drake-Slash-Charlotte DiLaurentis (Vanessa Ray). At one point, CeCe dated Jason DiLaurentis (Drew Van Acker), meaning everyone thought the transgender woman was romantically involved with her secret brother. It was eventually revealed CeCe was actually Jason’s cousin, which doesn’t make the situation much better. At least we can all take solace in knowing nothing sexual ever happened during the incestuous relationship, which Jason was tricked into.
In 2017, incest proved to be a huge trend once again, thanks to both newbie CW soap Riverdale and FX’s grimy limited series Taboo. In Riverdale, it’s implied twins Cheryl (Madelaine Petsch) and Jason Blossom (Trevor Stines) were a little too close for comfort until the latter sibling was murdered. Thankfully, the incestuous speculation turned out to be a simple rumor, at least as far as viewers can currently tell. But, that didn’t stop the CW from heavily leaning into the subtext, framing tons of ads around the pair's final romantic boat ride and airing an episode 5 dream sequence where a sultry nightgown-wearing Cheryl is attacked by her zombie twin in the middle of the night. Taboo, on the other hand, completely ditched all the implied incest for straightforward brother-sister groping, declarations of love, and possible children.
Game Of Thrones isn't the first show to bring incest to television, but it's clearly the one that signaled there was no problem throwing it all over cable TV. At this point, would anyone be surprised to see a deeply in-love brother-sister duo in between episodes of Great News and This Is Us on broadcast network NBC this fall?
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A topic by Maxime Martyr created Apr 06, 2019 Views: 6,149 Replies: 15
I am playing Town of Passion and I enjoy it so far but there is something which really makes me feel awkward.
It is that Mary is named "Mom" in some parts of the game (the quests journal, the text box that the man says when if the player tries to go up the village in the quest Chicken Chase II ("Mom said that the chickens didn't go that far."), the Holiday Outfit crafted by the fairy whose description says it is for "Mom", when Rose catches the man reading 49 shades of pink and proposes him to practice with her what he learns from it but don't tell about it to "his mother"...
Also, Rose is refered to as his aunt, which means that they are family related.
You didn't mention that there would be incest in this game and since you changed the man's mother into his maid, I assume that you don't mean to include incest in the game.
These references to Mary as his mother and Rose as his aunt make me feel awkward when I date them so may I humbly request from you to complete Mary's change of identity to finish changing any remaining reference to her as his mother and change any reference to Rose as his aunt please?
Otherwise I enjoy the game, even if a lot of things that I encounter are "not implemented yet". ;-3 
There are too many references which state that Mary is the man's Mom so I can't believe anymore that she is his Maid, it becomes too obvious that she is his Mom and that he has an Oedipus complex.
I wish you said from the begining that this game is about Oedipus complex as I am not into this fetish and now I feel awkward to play a game which is not meant for me.
The simple reason that there can't be no mentioning in the "official" game description is Patreon's silly censorship of the topic. But legally Mary is indeed his maid, calling girls "mother" or "aunt" is just a roleplay. For example some people also call a nun "sister", but it's not meant to be you-know-what either ...

Oh come on, don't play dumb with me, it doesn't take a genius to realize that she IS his mother and that Rose IS his aunt. :-3
I don't give a shit to legal crap, I care only about my own morals and I am pretty open-minded so I am able to understand and accept a lot of things.
What really bothers me though is that you attempted to censor the game by changing Mary into his maid instead of his mother but since she was originally his mother, there are A CRAZY LOT of remaining references to her as his mother and that messes up the game's consistency and generates confusion so just uncensor the game, remove this fucking starting screen which asks the player to choose what Mary is to him which completely messes up the game as the game doesn't actually care about what the player wants her to be, to the game, she is his mother and that's it, so asking to the player to choose something that the game doesn't give a shit about is pointless and harms the game's consistency so just remove this choice and the game will be fine again.
And never censor yourself or there is no point to create.
If you want to create something, it is because there is something on your mind and you want to express it, right?
If you censor yourself, if you forbid yourself to express what is on your mind, then you will become complexed and turn bad.
So just let it out! Express what is on your mind and deal with it to the best of your capacities. ;-)
I'm goint to be honest, I still am not into Oedipus complex fetish, however I do enjoy Town of Passion because Mary and his boy are just too cute and Rose and his nephew are just too fun. :-3
If you had mentioned that there is incest and Oedipus complex in the game, I know I wouldn't have wanted to play it because I am not into intergenerational incest.
I'm fine with incest between siblings and cousins if it is because of unlimited love and not uncontrolled lust but I don't feel comfortable with parent/child sexual relationships, something bothers me about it.
At least usually. Because you made it in such a cute way in Town of Passion that once I accepted that they were his mother and his aunt, I had no more problem with it.
As long as he doesn't get them pregnant.
Because that would go too far, even for my open mind, just imagine, Mary would be both the mother and the grand-mother of the child while the man would be both the father and the brother and Rose would be both the mother and the grand-aunt while the man would be both the father and the cousin, think about their genealogical tree, the mess it would be and how confused the children would be with such mixed up relationships.
This is why I accept Mary and Rose relationships with their man but no more if he gets them pregnant, that is my tolerance limit.
So actually, I'm not mad at you because you made the man of Valencia be in love with his mother and his aunt, I'm mad at you because you confused me and made the game being messed up with your censorship asking me to choose what I want Mary to be to him while the game is made for her to be his mother, this is why I started thinking that she is his maid then became increasingly confused as the game increasingly told me that she is his mother, and even still now that I realized and accepted that she is actually his mother, the game sometimes tells me that she is his maid, that annoys me, just keep consistent and stop bothering me with the maid bullshit already!
Its not his censor ship though, he kind of has to do it like that because of Patron's stupid rules.
Then he chooses to censor himself in order to be conform to Patreon rules.
That is still his choice as long as he could choose to reject Patreon who rejects his true self.
The fact is that turning the mother into a maid really causes heavy damages to the game's consistency.
Anyway, I have stopped to play this game because I can't take seriously a game whose creator doesn't assume, among other reasons.

I feel like you're missing the point, that at long as they just "suggest" his relationship with her to be a maid, they are free to continue writing the story the way they wanted to do it, while still being able to continue their business and make a living via Patreon. All you as a player have to do to get the "intended" experience is label their relationship as mother/son.

The creators didn't "censor themselves" in the slightest, they altered some text (that you are given the option to change back) to get past the people that would censor them, and continued making the story they wanted to make.

So basically, what you say is that the creator censored themselves in order to prevent other people to censor them.
lol... you’re playing a cartoon video game that is based around nailing every chick in a village (potentially slaying up to 5 girls a day) and it shows it quite graphically... I don’t think anyone gets to draw a line in the sand about moral stand points hahaha.
I think the point that is being missed here is that this game isn’t designed to be over thought and analysed. You make Mary whoever you want and whatever strikes your fancy... it’s a role playing game. Not real life, it’s not meant to be taken as seriously as real life.
Leave your morals for real life and just enjoy fantasy games for what they are. Fictional stories that we have semi control over.
I think Siren has bigger things on his/her plate creating this game than people getting unnecessarily offended by overlookable details
You don't say!? It's pretty obvious, it's a common practice to add disclaimer that there isn't any of that. This is pretty much the only reason I play this game and that Zombie Retreat.

I think they changed from mom to maid but forgot to change some dialogue. Thats what happened in Summertime Saga and Milfy City
Sorry, that I'm late. They put in a trigger that activates a switch to change the dialogue. I tested out when I created my new game. On the first new game that I made I put in the default names and there was no incest dialogue. On the second new game, I changed Mary to Mom and it triggered the relationship switch which switched to the incest dialogue. That way they could bypass Patreon's policy because the player would have to explicitly change the name.
Ah, I see. That's very interesting. Thought when I put it on Mary it still refers to her as mom sometimes. Like in the wardrobe 
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