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Humans have social and psychological mechanisms to deter incest.
Anti-incest mechanisms guard against the high chance that one's offspring from such an encounter will be born with a serious birth defect.
The argument to deny abortion even in cases of first-degree relative incest to protect the sanctity of life is an example of foolish consistency.

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Posted October 11, 2012

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Mr. James Russell of Cashiers, North Carolina, recently justified meat-eating in the pages of Asheville Citizen-Times by arguing that humans are biologically classified as carnivores. His reasoning was simple. The consumption of animal flesh is morally right because it is natural.
Unfortunately, Mr. Russell got his facts wrong. Zoologists place humans in the order Primate (family Hominidea ), not in the order Carnivora . Furthermore, like rats, humans are omnivores, not carnivores. But more troubling is Mr. Russell’s belief that humans should look to nature for moral guidance. He justifies meat-eating in humans on the grounds that other animals eat one another. I suspect, however, that he does not approve of gang rape, adultery , cannibalism, and the consumption of feces, all of which are practiced in nature by our four-legged brethren. While moral codes exist in other species, humans have the capacity—and, indeed, the responsibility—to operate on a higher ethical plane.
On matters of morality , I generally agree with Katherine Hepburn who quipped to Humphrey Bogart in The African Queen , "Nature is what we are put in this world to rise above." There is, however, an exception to my contention that humans should not turn to nature for moral guidance. It is the rule that says: “Don’t have sex with first-degree relatives.” First-degree relatives are the individuals you share 50 percent of your genes with—your parents, children, and siblings. Indeed, non-human animals have evolved a host of strategies to prevent incest ( here ). Even plants possess anti-incest mechanisms ( here ).
As University of Miami psychologists Debra Lieberman and Adam Smith pointed out in a recent article in the journal Current Directions in Psychological Science , humans have social and psychological mechanisms to deter incest. With very few exceptions, marriages between brothers and sisters and between parents and their children are verboten in every human culture. The primary psychological anti-incest mechanism is the yuck response. Even the idea of sex with mom or dad or bro or sis is upsetting to most people. Psychologist Jonathan Haidt has found that nearly everyone is repelled by the prospect of brother-sister sex, even in hypothetical situations in which there is no chance of pregnancy ( here ).
This raises an interesting question: Just what’s so bad about incest? Sure, having sex with your dad or your sister seems gross. But why? Some anthropologists have argued that incest taboos are learned social conventions. This explanation, however, doesn’t make sense to me as it does not explain the widespread existence of anti-incest mechanisms in creatures ranging from cockroaches to chimpanzees ( here ). Second, the incest taboo is about as close to a universal law as human moral rules get.
Why should mechanisms for avoiding incest be so widespread both in nature and across human societies? The answer is simple. The problem with having sex with close relatives is that there is an astonishingly high chance that your offspring will be born with a serious birth defect. Take the results:
Percent of children with severe birth defects.
Source: A study of Czechoslovakian children whose fathers were first-degree relatives. Fewer than half of the children who were the product of incestuous unions were completely healthy. Forty-two percent of them were born with severe birth defects or suffered early death and another 11 percent mildly impaired mentally. This study is particularly instructive as it included a unique control group—the offspring of the same mothers but whose fathers were not the mothers’ relatives. When the same women were impregnated by a non-relative, only 7 percent of their children were born with a birth defect (Figure 1).
A group of genetic counselors reviewed the research on the biological consequences of sex between relatives (consanguineous relationships) ( here ). They found a surprisingly small increase (about 4 percent) in birth defects among the children of married cousins. Incest between first-degree relatives, however, was a different story. The researchers examined four studies (including the Czech research) on the effects of first-degree incest on the health of the offspring. Forty percent of the children were born with either autosomal recessive disorders, congenital physical malformations, or severe intellectual deficits. And another 14 percent of them had mild mental disabilities. In short, the odds that a newborn child who is the product of brother-sister or father-daughter incest will suffer an early death, a severe birth defect, or some mental deficiently approaches 50 percent.
The profound negative effects of incest on unborn children raise the issues of moral consistency and of abortion politics . I understand the pro-life argument. If you believe that human life begins at the moment sperm meets egg, it is perfectly logical to oppose abortion. But at what point do reasonable people temper logical consistency with compassion and common sense?
During the 2012 Republican Party convention in Tampa, the Platform Committee struggled with an aspect of the argument against legal abortion . Just about everyone on the committee agreed that abortion should be banned. But committee members were split over whether official party doctrine should include exceptions to the abortion ban if a fetus was the result of rape or incest. In the end, ideological purity prevailed. The official Republican platform states, “We assert the inherent dignity and sanctity of all human life and affirm that the unborn child has a fundamental individual right to life which cannot be infringed.” No exceptions, period. Even in cases of first-degree relative incest.
I grudgingly admit that the lack of any exception in the official Republican position on abortion is logically consistent with the party's statement on the “sanctity of all human life.” But shouldn't logic sometimes be tempered with compassion? Emerson famously wrote, “A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines.”
Forcing a woman burdened with the psychological scars of incest to bear a child who has a roughly 50:50 chance of having mental disabilities or a severe birth defect is perhaps the ultimate example of a foolish consistency that appeals to little statesmen.
Hal Herzog, Ph.D., is the author of Some We Love, Some We Hate, Some We Eat: Why It's So Hard To Think Straight About Animals.

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A DAD who headed an incest clan allowed family members to have sex with its children in return for beer or cigarettes.
William Goler and his family were described as a “hillbilly sex ring” and when the authorities began digging into their past, it was found incest had been a way of life for over 100 years.
Thirteen adults from the notorious clan were jailed after being found guilty of 100 charges of incest and other sexual offences with children aged between six and 14.
William, his common law wife Wanda Wiston and his brother Tom, along with other male and female members of the family, were among those convicted.
Living in an isolated mountain community in rural Canada far from prying eyes, they created a twisted way of life in which girls gave birth to their siblings’ babies.
Twenty people were crammed into house - aunts and uncles, nieces and nephews, and brothers and sisters.
Their story mirrors that of the Colts - dubbed the world's most inbred family - in which patriarch Tim Colt an "incest" farm in Australia where he raped his daughters with his sons and fathered their children.
The Goler clan’s sordid secret was revealed when one of William's children went to one of her teachers sobbing and described what happened to her in 1984.
The 14-year-old said she was treated as her dad’s wife and was raped up to 14 times a month by him since she was nine and she was trying to get her pregnant.
Her teachers contacted the police and they began questioning the kids, who slowly opened up after being coaxed by officers.
Two years later the case eventually came to court where Sandra’s 11-year-old sister Donna gave a harrowing testimony about what happened.
“The first time I can remember I was five, just going on six, because I had just graduated from Kindergarten going into grade one,” she said.
“I came home and that was the first time I had been raped and it was by my father.
“If somebody wanted to have sex with one of his kids he would let them for a case of beer or a carton of cigarettes, or even a pack of cigarettes.
“They got to pick out whichever child they wanted to have sex with.
“We had nothing to say, we couldn't prevent it, we couldn't stop them.
"We were basically lined up against the wall and they chose the one they wanted and we were forced to do it.”
Sickeningly she said that “some kids were even forced to watch when someone was having sex.”
The prosecutor described the case as “something out of the movie Deliverance” – which famously depicted in breeding in the deep south of America.
Decades of inbreeding had taken its toll on the family and their defence lawyer Bob Levy told Canadian TV the family were “on another planet” and “borderline retarded”.
Their intelligence levels were in the “bottom one or two per cent” of society, he said.
They didn’t have any idea what was happening to them during their trial and one of the defendants had no idea what the word incest meant.
The court was told that all of the defendants had themselves been sexually abused as children.
But it didn’t end there and incredibly it was found that incest had been a way of life for generation, as Acadia University sociologist Jim Sacouman testified.
“There’s census material that makes it very clear that in breeding and incest were occurring in the 1860s and 1870s in the Goler family,” he later said.
William Goler was jailed for seven years for incest, gross indecency and buggery.
His common law wife Wanda Wiston, was sentenced to four years for sexually assaulting eight children.
His son Tom was jailed for three years for buggery with a nephew and niece and his former brother in law Roy Hills, for one year for buggery with a seven year old girl.
Another family member, Charlie Goler junior, was jailed for two years for having sex with an underage cousin.
Cranswick Goler, received six years and nine months for buggery with a 12-year-old male cousin and his sisters Josie and Mary, 12 months for sexual assault.
Lawrence Johnstone two and a half years for buggery with a niece.
The family’s 12 children were sent for adoption to families to begin new lives with new identities and were reportedly making good progress.
Donna went on to campaign for the rights of abused children and for a change in the law so that the young relatives of paedophiles can never be left alone with them.
"They can't babysit their niece, they can't babysit their cousin or their own child," she told CBC.
"They cannot be alone whatsoever with a child under the age of 14, unsupervised."
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A 19-year-old girl has revealed how her father had allegedly been having carnal knowledge of her since she was 11, at their apartment in Ikotun area of Lagos.
Consequently, her 50-year-old father, Ede Tyndale, has been arrested by detectives from the Family Support Unit of the Lagos State Police Command.
Vanguard learned that the victim’s mother became curious when she noticed her daughter’s disrespect for her father.
She was said to have scolded and beaten her previously, before resorting to dialogue, in the process of which the teenager opened up.
Explaining to detectives, the teenager, said, “ Yes, daddy has been sleeping with me since I was 11 years old. He deflowered me. Whenever I resisted, he would threaten to beat me. He also threatened to kill me if I refused or told anybody. I kept quiet because I was scared I could be killed”.
She further stated that she lost every respect she had for him as a father, adding that she assumed being rude to him would stop him from molesting her sexually”.
A spokesman for the Lagos State Police Command, DSP Elkana Bala, confirmed the arrest.
He said: “The suspect confessed to the commission of the crime. After a thorough investigation into the case, the suspect was charged to the Chief Magistrate Court ll, Ogba, on five-count charges of Incest, Rape, Sexual harassment, Defilement, and Sexual assault.”
He added that the suspect was remanded in Police custody while the case was adjourned to today for hearing.
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