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Sauna in Germany: Taboos You Should Break… Or Not
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When I started thinking about comparing the sauna experience in Germany vs in the United States, it was mostly due to curiosity. First, I couldn’t imagine Americans visiting a sauna while naked. Then, I saw women in my gym using the sauna as a changing room and putting cream or oil on their bodies. All of this reminded me how disturbed I was when I first visited a sauna in Germany; there, nudity is expected, and most saunas are mixed-gender.
I moved to Germany in 1989 and lived around Frankfurt for 24 years. Still, it was only after I met my husband that I first visited the sauna in 2008. To protect my sense of decency, I wore a large bathrobe between the sauna rooms, showers, and outside pools. In an effort to ignore fellow visitors’ nudity, I removed my glasses, convincing myself that if I couldn’t see their genitals, they couldn’t see mine.
When was I growing up, France didn’t have a sauna culture. To me, saunas were reserved for Nordic countries, where people sweat in small wooden cabins before walking in the snow. In short, saunas seemed exotic and far away. I’d never heard of French saunas, and I’d never met French people who went to saunas before I moved to Germany.
My opinion didn’t change a lot once I relocated to Germany.
Of course, I had heard of the nudity and mixed-gender saunas in Germany before 2008, and this was exactly why I didn’t want to go. What if I met a friend, a neighbor, or a colleague?
Because of the French reputation for infidelity (which is a myth, by the way, as I explain in “ Everything you always wanted to know about adultery in France “), some may think that we have no problem with nudity in public. This is absolutely not correct! Nudity is a very private matter, and in the words of another Catherine, a French journalist and friend of mine:
“Besides nudists, who have their own places to go, French people are very modest. I only once saw a girl showering naked by a swimming pool, and we were all shocked by her behavior. At the beach, you will see very, very few naked boobs.”
If you do visit a German sauna, don’t try to wear bathing clothes. Patrons will immediately react and tell you vigorously that it’s completely wrong and unhygienic!
In one of my sauna visits in Germany, I experienced this firsthand. Two young women in swimsuits from the UK came into the cabin with towels around their bodies. A few minutes after they unwrapped the towels to sit on them, a sauna supervisor asked them to leave. I can only guess what he told them outside: get undressed or leave the area!
Being naked is not a big deal in Germany , so nobody cares about nudity in a German sauna. Germans believe that it’s unhealthy to sweat in a bikini or shorts because germs will accumulate on the cloth and may spread. Furthermore, there’s no sexual component to attending a German sauna. It’s not about voyeurism or flirting—just about relaxing while doing something good for your body.
If there’s one taboo in German saunas, it is staring at others’ genitals. Any kind of touching is also completely inappropriate. The German daily newspaper TAZ even dared to compare spending time in a sauna cabin to attending mass!
The real origin of Germans being comfortable with nudity comes from a social movement starting in the late 19th century.
According to Wikipedia , the Lebensreformkultur (culture of reformed life) encouraged a back-to-nature lifestyle, “emphasizing health food/raw food/organic food, nudism, sexual liberation, alternative medicine, and religious reform,” as well as “abstention from alcohol, tobacco, drugs, and vaccines.”
Nudity in saunas is a visible remnant of this movement, as well as nudist beaches in former Eastern Germany. A few years ago, a picture of young German chancellor Angela Merkel, naked, caused a lot of excitement in the media and elsewhere. Mrs. Merkel never denied the photo was of her (if you want to see for yourself, please check this link ).
Germany and other German-speaking countries have a longstanding sauna culture . To be honest, although I didn’t like aspects of visiting the sauna at all (and I still don’t) due to being seen naked by strangers, I started to enjoy my visits before we moved to the States.
Germany has beautiful sauna areas that have nothing in common with most American saunas. My husband and I used to visit a Wiesbaden’s day spa—a beautiful location in a natural atmosphere with different saunas, a steam bath, an outdoor pool, and relaxing, quiet rooms. The Thermalbad Aukam also offers massages and tanning beds. It was easy to spend an afternoon there, and that’s what we did on cold winter Sundays.
Over the weekend, I asked my friends in the German community about their sauna experience in America. To make it short, they all miss their German saunas. Curiously, I found out that there are also “naked” saunas in the States. Visitors of coed saunas will most likely wear towels or bathing clothes, while visitors of single-gender saunas can be either naked or dressed.
The Lake Superior area—specifically Minnesota, Upper Michigan, Wisconsin, and Iowa—is home to a large population of Swedish and Finnish Americans who maintain a popular sauna culture. Maybe this is the place to try a real sauna experience?
For my part, I stopped using the sauna in my local gym a long time ago. Too many women used it to undress after training or to dry after showering. As you say here in the States, they share a little too much information about their body parts.
So is that the only reason why people are not allowed to wear any sort of coverings in German Saunas is because of germs? Is that the real reason or is it just an excuse to cover up their inability to tolerate any other culture and have no respect for individual people’s comfort levels other than their own?
Basically, I can do it, so you should too or it doesn’t bother me, so how DARE it bother anyone else? Immaturity at it’s finest I say.
I mean I know you said that we should break the taboos but why should we have to if their culture of nudity makes us uncomfortable and we would rather stay modest and pure?
The idea of being able to force someone to be naked or else be kicked out should be illegal and seen as sexual harassment or at the very least, bullying and infringing on the individual’s rights to their comfort level of what they are willing to expose and to not expose, which is more important than what anyone else says or thinks, AKA, the individual’s boundaries should always be held in higher regard than the “collective” trying to force itself on those boundaries, which is immoral, unethical, and wrong.
So for me, I will never ever visit a German Sauna for that very reason and will stick to USA Saunas which actually has the decency to allow both without being offended or judging either one.
“The Lake Superior area—specifically Minnesota, Upper Michigan, Wisconsin, and Iowa—is home to a large population of Swedish and Finnish Americans who maintain a popular sauna culture. Maybe this is the place to try a real sauna experience?”
Yes, indeed! There’s a small co-op in Minneapolis with a portable sauna, and they park it near the parks with ski trails in the winter. Notably, it has a wood-fired stove. And it is much more common, especially near the lakes, to find “family” saunas, i.e. small ones. One of my favorites, however, is at a ski resort near Detroit Lakes, MN (almost by the Canadian border), where you can run out to a nearby lake and jump through a hole in the ice. Nothing like it!
This is a good article. I am a native German who lives now 20 years in California, and German Saunas is probably the thing I miss most about Germany. I took my family several times to Germany and Europe and introduced my (Chinese) wife to the Sauna culture; she loves it so much, we ended up building our own outdoor sauna, pool and pool house in our backyard to replicate the experience as much as possible. But, as a native German, (you know we are all”Besserwisser”), I have to correct you on one thing: being naked not being a big problem for Germans goes back much farther. I studied Latin and translated Caesar’s de bello gallico (about the french wars), and even then Caesar reports that Germans “…bathe promiscuously in the rivers and [only] use skins or small cloaks of deer’s hides, a large portion of the body being in consequence naked.”
Source: http://www.forumromanum.org/literature/caesar/gallic_e6.html , chapter 21.
Now, I’m the first to admit that much of what Caesar wrote is rubbish (believe me, I doubted often enough the stuff I was translating), but there might be a grain of truth in it.
Excellent! Thank you Jörg for this addition. I didn’t know that!
As a native German I can tell you that people are nude in the sauna cabin and most saunas are mixed gender – but there is no sexual component about nudity at this particular place we (Germans) visit purely for health reasons. That doesn’t mean we hang out naked everywhere – I myself go to saunas in Germany on a regular bases but I am not a nudist and you wouldn’t see me sunbathing topless in public… By the way, most public saunas offer “women only” and “man only” times in case you prefer this. By nature this doesn’t apply to saunas in hotels – so I always prepare (“warn”) US-American travelers visiting Germany…
I’d like to add that my wife and I regularly visit the sauna and we do not feel inconvenience in this regard, perhaps also because it is hot and you/others have no any thoughts but only about sauna anyway.
In my home city in Germany (Wiesbaden), there is one sauna center in downtown. It’s in a beautiful building, the rooms are with older mosaics and remind the Roman Empire. However the audience is younger, more cosmopolitan, and they are not only there to sweat. German patrons will behave, foreigners will stare, more or less discreetly.
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While bad words are used commonly in conversation among native German speakers, you probably won’t find them in a vocabulary lesson in your textbook or online course. Despite sounding quite harsh and intimidating, German swears are easy to remember once you learn their literal translations and even more fun to say. So if you’re ready to take a break from all of that responsible learning and have some fun, take a look at these popular expletives and insults. Studying German curse words won’t even feel like studying – we promise!
NOTE: Although in some German-speaking areas curses are commonly used in front of children or older family members, the vulgarity level listed here is representative of conversation between adults in informal situations. Be careful using these around children, co-workers, or elders!
* WARNING: As you may imagine, some German curse words and their translations are very vulgar. Our aim is to provide factually correct information about the usage of German curse words as a naturalistic human behavior to aid German learners in understanding authentic German, which in some cases may be graphic or offensive in their reference to religion, sexuality, or violence. *
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You may recognize some of these swears due to their English counterparts; in many cases the literal translation is the same as in English.
One of the most common bad words in German, scheiße , has several creative constructions that mirror the English use of “sh*t.”
Scheiße bauen
F*ck up (make a mistake)
wie Scheiße behandeln
Treat like sh*t
ohne Scheiß
I am not kidding you / No sh*t?
Das ist mir scheißegal!
I don’t give a shit!
Scheißdreck
f_cking sh_t / godd_mmit / motherf_cker
Many of these insults are not for the feeble-hearted, but your German pals may let you get away with them if you say them jokingly after you’ve drunk ein paar Biere.
We won’t spend any time on why these insults are so popular cross-culturally , but suffice it to say that young German speakers have recently begun to appreciate especially inventive descriptions of how someone’s mother is less than perfect.
Deine Mutter schuldet dir noch zehn Euro.
Your mother owes you ten euros.
Deine Mutter ist so fett sie legte sich an den Strand und Greenpeace schmiss sie ins Meer!
Your mother is so fat that when she was lying on a beach Greenpeace threw her into the water.
Deine Mudda ist so dick, dass wenn sie sich wiegt, auf der Waage ihre Handynummer steht.
You mother is so fat that when she stands on the scales it shows her cellular phone number.
Deine Mutter schwitzt beim Kacken.
Your mother sweats when she sh*ts.
Deine Mutter geht in der Stadt huren.
Your mother goes to town (i.e., a prostitute in the city).
Similar to the English “yo mama,” an all-purpose response meaning something like “p*ss off” is the purposefully misspelled (to sound like a low-class accent) Deine Mudda!
When first starting out with a language, second-language speakers can sometimes overuse or use stronger curse words too flippantly. Some researchers think that this may be tied to the fact that as children non-native speakers never experienced that strong emotional taboo reaction from adults around curse words, and therefore do not feel the curse words as strongly as native speakers do.
For this reason, it’s important to listen carefully to native speakers’ usage before trying these words out for yourself. German TV usually doesn’t censor bad words, but in some areas (especially the Bavarian Catholic areas) curse words can still be inappropriate in mixed company. Always follow native speakers’ cues, keep in mind the hierarchy of “badness,” and realize that some words are only appropriate with good friends, far away from children (and most elders).
While you may not be ready for this monster conglomerate of curses (which translates to something like “heaven Christ crucifix Halleluja me lick at the a_s sh_t rubbish crock”), start to pay attention to how native speakers use the words above and feel out which ones can be combined and how.
Where can you see these colorful words in use? One great way to learn curse words is by watching movies in German (Many people claim that the film Das Boot is where they learned their repertoire of German curse words). You can also watch English movies with German subtitles to see the corresponding curses. Another way to see curse words in action is to follow German speakers on social media. Don’t forget to sign up for Lingvist’s German course to make sure you understand the rest of the words surrounding the bad ones!
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Ich würde mich lieber ins Knie ficken
Halt maul / die + Fresse / Schnauze / Klappe
shut yours / shut your + face / mouth
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