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Because of this, Fender's most innocent era of the 1950's is
their most collectible. This decade produced guitars with one-piece maple necks,
single layer pickguards, thin "spaghetti" logos, and tweed cases that seem
to capture collectors the most.

The early 1960's Fenders with "slab" rosewood fingerboards are also collectible,
but not to the extent of the earlier 1950's maple-neck era. Of the rosewood
fingerboard models, the "slab" fingerboard (1958/mid-1959 to August 1962) variants
are more desirable than the "veener" fingerboard (August 1962 and later)
pre-CBS models. The "transistion" era (late summer 1964 to December 1965)
are the least collectible of the pre-CBS models. This era is known
as a "transition" because later summer 1964 to December 1965 was the time
when there was a transition from the Leo Fender management to CBS
management, and mass-production manufacturing techniques were
starting to take a firm hold.

By 1966 (a year after CBS bought Fender), CBS management had really taken
hold of Fender's production facilities and incorporated many changes. The sum of
of all these changes had a serious effect on Fender guitars as a
whole. 1966 brought an era of "large" pegheads, less contoured bodies,
and much higher production numbers. CBS looked for ways to cut production
time and costs, which generally led to much lower quality. Because of
this, 1966 and later Fender instruments are considered far less
collectible than vintage pre-CBS Fender guitars.

From country, to rock
and roll, to surf music, Fender found a niche with its instruments.
Especially different for the era was those Fenders with
Custom Color
finishes. Hence they are more valuable than the standard finish (usually
Sunburst, or Blond for the Telecaster/Esquire).

The Low-end Fender solidbodies such as the
DuoSonic, MusicMaster , and the
Mustang are not
collectable and are considered student models. Even with
the recent popularity of the Mustang, it's still a short scale,
entry level instrument. All these instruments share that basic
problem of a shorter scale length, and lower quality electronics.

Early Jazz Basses with concentric tone and volume knobs are also
very collectable, along with the three knob configuration pre-CBS Jazz
basses. Until the late 1980's, the P-bass sound was more desirable by
players than the J-bass. But by 1990, the sound and feel of
the J-bass had become preferred.

Brown and white tolex amps (1960-1963), and some "black face" models
(1964-1967) are highly regarded by players. "Silverface" and later models
(post 1967) are fine utility amps, but have no collectable value.

Left: 1950 to 3/62 style pencil-written neck date at butt of neck.
Note the initials before the date were consistent till about 1954,
and were sometimes there till they completely stopped around 1956.
Right: 3/62 to 1969 style stamped neck date at butt of neck. The "2"
before the month indicates the guitar model, NOT the day of the month!

The body and neck dates on a 1956/1957 strat. The body date
(right) is in the middle pickup cavity on this guitar.

The body date on a 7/57 Telecaster, under the lead
pickup. The body date on the Telecaster moved from
the neck pocket to under the lead pickup around 1954
or 1955. Consistently by 1956 it usually appears
under the lead pickup.

Fender Neck Dates, 1950 to present.
From the first solidbody guitars to 1976, Fender dated their instruments at
the "butt" of the detachable neck. Here is a timeline of the format the
dates, and how they were printed:

1962 to 1968 (mostly) Neck Stamp/Model designations.
Starting about April 1962, Fender went from a hand written neck butt date
to stamped date. Usually the date had a code (often mistaked as a day of the
month/year) preceeding the date, to signify what model the neck belongs.
Note in 1966 many model numbers changed.
Here is a list of those codes and the years that they were used.

1969 to 1980 Neck Stamps.
This information was documented and written by Greg Gagliano, and was published
in a 1998 article in 20th Century Guitar magazine.

About 150 Fenders made between 1967 and 1980 were examined. Of these,
less than half had useable information. In most cases, the stamp was smudged
beyond legibility or the stamps were incomplete. Many guitars had no stamped
codes at all. Some guitars simply had the model name, such as "MUSTANG"
stamped on the butt end of the neck in green or red ink.

This means two things for the owner of a 1969 to 1980 Fender. First, the
chances of having an intact stamped code is about 50/50. Second, the dataset
for making conclusions is relatively small and therefore, subject to
change as new information surfaces. However, the interpretation of the
two date code systems appears to be relatively straight forward and the
conclusions were confirmed by pickup dates and pot dates in most cases.

Here’s our P-Bass again (s/n 277983) with the code 529129B.
Breaking up the code we get:

Here's another, a Strat (s/n 279515) with code 22384109B.
Break it into pieces:

Exceptions do exist. A few Telecasters have shown up with neck codes
that would indicate a 1967 date and one has been reported with a possible
1968 date, yet the rest of the guitar appears to be from 1969. If Fender
used the coding system as early as 1967, then we should see more 1967 and
1968 guitars surfacing with the green stamped code. One explanation
is the use of leftover necks. Fender is known to have done this often.
Other exceptions exist too. For example, a 1970 Strat with the neck
code 2231008B. The first "22" is the model (Strat), and the ending "B"
is the neck width. But the "008" is not the month and year. I can't
really explain why this happens, but it does on the occassional Fender
guitar from this era.

1972 to 1980 Neck Stamps Explained.
This information was provided by Greg Gagliano.
The 1972-1980 eight digit code is similar to the previous 1969-1971 system.
Example, Music Master (s/n 595121) with code 49002153.
The first 6 digits are paired off and the
last two digits are taken singly. So that gives us 49 00 215 3 where:

Neck Codes Used from 1972 to 1980.
Neck codes (second pair of digits):

Here's a Telecaster (s/n S725092) with
rosewood fingerboard and code 1303167?.

Differences between the end of a Telecaster and
Stratocaster neck. Note the Tele neck on the left
has a straight end, and the Strat neck on the right
has a rounded end. The bodies and pickguards are
cut differently to accomodate this.

Style of Strat pegheads and logos from 1954 to 1980.
Shown is the "spaghetti" logo, the "transition" logo,
and the "black" logo on a large peghead. The Large
peghead style started in late 1965 on the Strat, and
lasted throughout the 1970s.

Top: the "transistion" logo as
used on a Custom Telecaster
starting about fall 1964.
Bottom: the "spaghetti" logo as
used on a Custom Telecaster
in 1959.

Peghead Decal Pictures.
The following are scans of most Fender decals used from 1950 to the late
1960s. These are all original, unapplied decals. Note decals from the
1970s are "backwards" (reversed). For comparison, I have "unreversed"
the pictures so the text is not backwards. Picture from Jim Shine.

Typical wear on a 1950's
Fender maple fingerboard.

Neck Back Shapes (profiles), all guitar and bass models.
Fender neck shapes have changed through the years too.

Neck Width.
From March 1962 to 1969, Fender marked their necks with an "official"
neck width letter at the butt of the neck (in front of the date code).
The "B" neck width is the normal width, as used on about 99% of all
Fenders from this period.
All other sizes were available by special order only.
Also all pre-1962 Fender necks have a 1 5/8"
nut width (though I'm sure there are some exceptions,
but none I have seen).

Neck Shims.
Shims were used between a Fender neck and body to adjust the "neck
set" of the instrument (the "neck set" is the angle of the neck in
relationship to the body; if the neck set is too shallow, it needs a
shim so the playing action can be lowered with the bridge to a comforable level.
If the neck set is too sharp, the strings can not be raised enough
with the bridge to stop string buzz). Fender adjusted the neck set at
the factory with a shim. Some Fenders use them, so don't. Click
here for a
picture of the shim used during the 1950s and 1960s.

Peghead String Guides (or "String Tree").
String guides were used on most models to give the treble strings
greater string tension across the nut.

The body routes on a 1968 Stratocaster. Note the rounded
pickup route corners, compared to the 1970's pickup routes
seen above.

The body routes on Telecasters. In the 1970's the
"notch" was removed from the bass side of the neck pocket.

The Telecaster body also changed in the 1970's. The "notch" that existed
on the bass side of the neck pocket was removed. See the picture above.

1956 to 1964 style single line
Kluson tuners on a Tele neck.

Old style (pre-1971) Stratocaster bridge. Note the nickel plated
saddles with "Fender Pat. Pend." stamped in them. Reissue saddles
look exactly the same but are stamped "Fender Fender". Also since
the pickguard is removed on this Strat, we can see the "nail hole"
just above the pickguard screw hole. If this nail hole does not
have paint in it (as seen here), the finish is probably original.

Old style Telecaster bridges. The bridge at the top
is a mid-1954 and prior style Tele bridge with brass
saddles, and the serial number stamped into the bridge
plate (reissue vintage Tele bridge plates with serial numbers have
a "dot" pressed below the third number in the serial number, so not to be confused with
original Tele bridge plates). The picture below it shows the low E/A string
saddle, and how it is ground flat on the bottom. The
picture at the bottom is a mid 1954 to 1958 style Tele bridge
with "smooth" saddles, and no serial number on the
bridge plate. In 1958 Fender then switched to
"threaded" saddles on the tele bridge (not shown).

An original 1956 Stratocaster wiring harness and pickguard.
Notice the small metal shielding plate around the pots,
and the white single layer pickguard. At the top edge is a
early 1960's three-layer celluliod "mint green" pickguard
with it's full-size aluminum shielding plate.

First generation CRL switches from 1950 to 1953 had two patent numbers.
Second generation CRL switch used from 1953 to about 1962 have three
patent numbers. Otherwise the two and three patent number switches look
identical. Shown below is a three patent number switch and brown
center wheel.

Top: 1963 to 1970s style CRL 3-way switch with round base.
Bottom: mid 1980s style 3-way switch.

A virgin 1960 Stratocaster pickup assembly with no broken solder joints,
"black bottom" pickups, "cloth" wire, flat box-shaped paper tone cap,
rubber pickup springs, flat edge 3-way switch, CTS pots, and an
aluminum pickguard shield all attached to a "green" pickguard.

Left: the neck cavity on a custom color 1960 Strat. Notice the redish material the factory used to angle the neck.
Right: the bottom side of this 1969 strat's pickguard uses "pearloid" material. This is
typical of 1968 and 1969 Strats.

Stratocaster Plastic Parts.
Left: The two pickup covers on the
outside are ABS plastic. The three covers on the insides
are "bakelite" (actually polystyrene, but collectors refer to it
incorrectly as "bakelite"). Note how the "bakelite" covers are whiter,
and the edges have rounded. When new, the "bakelite" cover
edges were as shape as the ABS covers. But with time,
the edges round only on the polystyrene covers. They can
even wear to show the black pickup itsef underneath.
Right: The top row of knobs are ABS, the bottom
row are "bakelite" (polystyrene). Notice again how the edges of the "bakelite"
knobs wear (especially on the volume knob), and the ABS edges don't. Also the "bakelite"
knobs are whiter.

Telecaster Switch Tips.
The original Daka-Ware switch tips used on Broadcasters and
Telecasters from 1950 to the 1960s. These black bakelit tips
are made by Daka-Ware, with the earliest round tips only saying
"PAT. PEND." (as seen here on the left ). The switch tip on the
right is a "top hat" style switch with a 2189845 patent number
(though round switch tips can also have these markings).

Body Wood.
Exceptions to the below data: the Rosewood Telecaster, the Walnut strat,
Thinline Telecasters, etc.

Left: a 1966 Custom Telecaster with the "target 'burst" style
sunburst. Starting in mid-1964, Fender sprayed the yellow part
of the sunburst. This allowed Fender to be less picky with their
choice of Alder, because the sunburst is less transparent.
Right: a 1959 Custom Telecaster with the old style Fender sunburst.
Prior to 1964, Fender stained the yellow of the sunburst into the
wood, instead of spraying it. This saved a spray step when shooting
a sunburst finish.

One nail hole near the neck pocket on a May 1962 Fender Stratocaster.
Note the "shadow" (lack of red) created by the nail, as the red was
originally sprayed on the body!

This Strat has a neck date of December 1964, and still has the "nail holes"
under the pickguard. The nails holes were pretty much gone by fall of 1964.

A 1962 Jaquar in the rare, top-of-the line molded form-fit case.

Note: the following info does not apply to student model Fenders
such as the MusicMaster and DuoSonic. The interior material of these cases
generally will match the descriptions below, but the exteriors will
not. The exterior of these cases in the 1950's didn't have any material
on them (they were just a brown formica), and didn't have any interior
pocket system.

The exterior case logos used through the years. The top
logo was used on rectangle Fender tweed cases from about 1957 to
early 1958. It is missing on 99% of all original tweed cases today.
No case logos were used from 1958 to 1965.
The next four plastic case logos were used from
1966 to the 1970s: 1966 Fender logo with no tail.
Thrid logo from top used in 1967 to 1971 ("tail"). Fourth
logo from the top with no tail and small "R" above the big "r" was used from 1972.
The bottom most plastic logo
(with "Made in U.S.A." and the "R" symbol) was adopted in the mid to late 1970's.

Pre-1977 Fender guitars have a serial number on the bridgeplate or
neckplate. Serial numbers are basically chronological, but there is some
overlap amoung years. Fender serial numbers were assigned like this:
bin with serialized plates/bridges. Assembler reached in and
grabbed one (or many). Put them on the instrument(s).
As you can see from this over-simplified example, serial number
assignment was fairly random. Just keep this in mind. The only
truely definitive way to date a pre-CBS fender is to look at all
the dates on the instrument (body date, neck date, pot dates).
The serial number can only generalized the age of the instrument
within a few years.

Esquires, Broadcasters, Telecasters 1950 to 1954
(number on bridgeplate). This system of serial numbers is
unique to these three models until about the early summer
of 1954 (when Fender switched to a universal neck plate
serial number system for all models):

All Models, summer 1954 to mid 1976
Serial number on neckplate.
In 1957/1958 some serial numbers started with a minus sign ("-"), or
had a "0" prefix before the number. Also
in 1959/1960 some serial numbers were at the bottom of the neck plate
instead of the usual top. Double stamped serial number plates were also
produced (number on both front and back of the neck plate) in late 1957 to
early 1959. As a good example of all four of these serial number
oddities, click here .
This shows a "double stamped" neck plate, one number with a "-" prefix
and stamped on the bottom of the plate, and the other number with a "0" prefix!
And yes there is some overlap in serial numbers between years.

4 to 6 digit Neck Plate Serial Numbers
This style of neck plate started in 1954. No other letters or markings
on the neck plate, except for the rare "-" or "0" prefix, as noted.
Used on Telecaster, Stratocaster, Jazzmaster, Jaguar, Jazz Bass,
Precision bass, Duosonics, Musicmasters, etc. from 1954 and later.
Lots of overlap in numbers in adjacent years.
Don't read too much into these serial numbers,
it's not the best way to date a Fender guitar.

Year, Model Description
1946 Hardwood Amplifiers
1948 Tweed Amplifiers
1950 June, Esquire (1 or 2 pickups)
1950 October, Broadcaster (replaced the 1 or 2 pickup Esquire)
1950 December, "NoCaster" as it is called since Fender clipped-off
the name "Broadcaster" from its decals as the name was already in use by Gretsch.
1951 January, Esquire (one pickup "NoCaster").
1951 summer, Telecaster .
1951 fall, Precision Bass , the first solidbody electric bass.
1954 spring, Stratocaster .
1956 spring, Electric Mandolin (four string).
1956 summer, Duosonic (two pickups) and MusicMaster (one pickup).
1958 summer, Jazzmaster .
1959 summer, Telecaster Custom (sunburst body with binding).
1960 White/Brown Amplifiers
1960 summer, JazzBass .
1961 late, Bass VI .
1962 summer, Jaquar .
1964 Black Amplifiers (know as "blackface" models)
1964 summer, Mustang
1965 summer, Electric XII (12 string solid body).
1968 fall, ThinLine Telecaster (semi-hollow "F" hole Tele).
1969 summer, Rosewood Telecaster (body and neck
made of rosewood), and the Thinline Tele were introduced.

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