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Camille Paglia says flatly: "Not a shred of evidence supports the existence of matriarchy anywhere in the world at any time."







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and.... There is not a shred of evidence for this viewpoint.







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But after oxen and plows were introduced, around 4,000 B.C. E., men increasingly came to dominate agriculture, since large animals had to be controlled. It is possible that this process rather than the later incursion of Indo-Europeans, was the beginning of male domination. http://web.clark.edu/afisher/HIST251/prehistory%202.pdf [







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And men were thought to be able to control large animals better than women? Why?







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I dunno. Never having controlled a large farm animal myself, I was just going by what I read. The animals we're talking about are mostly oxen. Although women are physically superior to men in various respects that contribute to their longevity, on average men seem to have greater muscle mass as a result of testosterone, and tend as a result to have greater upper body strength. http://www.steadyhealth.com/articles/difference-between-male-and-female-structures-mental-and-physical http://www.blisstree.com/2007/02/22/mental-health-well-being/5-physical-differences-between-women-and-men/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_differences_in_human_physiology

Ironically, if I were looking for ancient examples of women to refute what I just said, I'd bring up those MCP Indo-Europeans, some women of whom were prototypical amazons. Herodotus' reports on the legend of amazons were based on the examples of the Scythian and Sarmatian women. Many were given burials with full military honors in their battle outfits, with weapons. Their bodies showed signs of similar battle wounds as the men. But this challenges the stereotype of Indo-European patriarchy. On the other hand, the Indo-European graves of chiefs showed the practice of suttee, in which when the chief died, the wife was murdered and buried with him. There are no known instances of the husband being murdered to be buried with the wife.







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Right.

Neolithic man and woman were only separated in height by a few inches. I'm sure they were each physically fit enough to drive ox and plow.
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Neolithic man and woman were only separated in height by a few inches. I'm sure they were each physically fit enough to drive ox and plow.







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Besides height, muscle mass and upper body strength should be taken into account. And even if they were fit enough, it might have been a question of relative efficiency, leading to gender role division. Iversen and Rosenbluth (2010) think that agricultural intensification created a premium on male brawn in plowing and other heavy farm work which led to a division of labor within the family in which men used their physical strenght for food production and women took care of food processing, child rearing and other famiily-related duties leading to male dominance. Burton and White (1984) think that agricultural intensification is responsible for the shift in gender roles regardless of the plow. All I know is what I read.







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There are a few things I disagree with Gimbutas on, but for the most part I think she was on the mark. Camille Paglia didn't do much research to back up her statement. There are plenty of mythical accounts around the world that suggest an older history where the women held the power, which was followed by a rise of the male. There are numerous Jungian psychologists who have demonstrated that it is a normal part of human development, reflecting how even the human mind goes through its earliest stages of individuation and development by first learning of the all powerful and seemingly omnipotent mother, and then later the power of the father.

My own research which makes up a major part of one of several books I am writing tracks the sacred feminine through language, and demonstrates that every culture went through a goddess phase considering that almost every language, in every language family, has retained a very ancient feminine root (k~n) which later, in the Middle East became (k~n~t). Every language family has a considerable amount of vocabulary built off of this root. For example, the English word, country, and the Japanese word, kuni, with the same meaning, are not directly related, but they are distantly related through the same root. The basic root, of course, refers to the female genitalia. But the fact that it has changed so little through a very long history, and is very universal demonstrates that it was a very significant word at many levels including at a mystical spiritual level. Most words devolve, change, or are simply replaced over the course of hundreds of a thousand years, and do not cross languages so easily.

Language also points to an older period----one of hunter-gatherers (as opposed to the goddess cults which evolved into and around the early planter cultures) when gender dominance was not an issue. Over the past 10 or 15 years, archeologists and anthropologists have come to understand that our hunter-gatherer ancestors, much like hunter-gatherers today, do not put the emphasis on gender that we thought they did. There was no cave man beating a cave woman over the head and dragging her back to his cave.







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seems i am talking to newbies or scholars speaking from their asses on the subject - the venus of mittendorf is 40,000 years old - also the other feminine icons date back as far or further - the very interesting lajja gauri should be studied







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yes - also a look at harappa civ shows the feminine produced the first democracy in recorded or studiable history







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seems i am talking to newbies or scholars speaking from their asses on the subject - the venus of mittendorf is 40,000 years old - also the other feminine icons date back as far or further - the very interesting lajja gauri should be studied







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seems i am talking to newbies or scholars speaking from their asses on the subject - the venus of mittendorf is 40,000 years old - also the other feminine icons date back as far or further - the very interesting lajja gauri should be studied







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I do believe that these older fetishes and icons were spiritual in nature. In a hunter-gatherer setting there is no concept of secular and non-secular, so even if they were 'porn' in nature, they were still spiritual.

But you don't find a dualistic view of reality until people start planting and developing a strong group ethic. Therefore I belief these older icons were still used in a more natural multiplistic view of reality. The mother is very powerful in every indigenous culture, but she is only a part of a greater spiritual complex that in a more absolute sense can be largely undefined, but that embodies all the oiwers of nature.







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The scholars may be speaking from their asses, but which scholars and which asses. You may think as I do that the Paleolithic "venuses" have religious significance, but the current trend among archeologists is to hold back on such interpretations and entertain the possibility that they're just Stone Age porn. I recently got into an argument with an atheist who was claiming that there was no religion at all in the Paleolithic or Neolithic because all of these figurines can be dismissed. I think that's also a dubious position, for reasons I alluded to in post #9.







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seems i am talking to newbies or scholars speaking from their asses on the subject - the venus of mittendorf is 40,000 years old - also the other feminine icons date back as far or further - the very interesting lajja gauri should be studied

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From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Japanese god of fire, the hearth, and the kitchen

^ Jump up to: a b c Ashkenazy, Michael. Handbook of Japanese Mythology . Santa Barbara, California: ABC-Clio, 2003. 244

^ Ashkenazy 186-187


Look up Sanbō Kōjin in Wiktionary, the free dictionary.
Kōjin , also known as Sambō-Kōjin or Sanbō-Kōjin ( 三宝荒神 ) , is the Japanese kami ( god ) of fire , the hearth and the kitchen . He is sometimes called Kamado -gami ( 竃神 ), literally the god of the stove . He represents violent forces that are turned toward the betterment of humankind.

The name Sambō-Kōjin means three-way rough deity , and he is considered a deity of uncertain temper. [1] Fire, which he represents, is a destructive force, as shown in the myth of Kagu-tsuchi , the original fire deity, whose birth caused his mother's death. However, Kōjin embodies fire controlled and turned toward a good purpose. He is said to destroy all impurity. [1] He is also responsible for watching over the household and reporting any misdeeds to the kami of the village or city. These reports are discussed, and the according rewards or punishments assigned, by an assembly of gods in Izumo province in the tenth month of the traditional lunar calendar . [2]

Kōjin is sometimes identified as an incarnation of Fudō Myō-Ō , who is likewise depicted as surrounded by flames and tasked with dealing with misdeeds. [1]

As Kamado-gami, he is sometimes depicted as female.

Traditionally, a representation of Kōjin is placed near the hearth. This representation might be a simple fuda ( memorial tablet ) in many homes, or it might be as elaborate as a statue, as is common in Buddhist temples. In his statues, Kōjin is depicted with flaming hair, fangs, and a contorted face, and he often wields a bow and arrows. He has two pairs of hands. Some representations of Kōjin present him as possessing three heads.

The Kōjiki mentions an imperial script detailing instructions for worshipping Kōjin, in the form of Kamado-gami.


Tsukuyomi (cited as "月讀" (Tsukuyomi) or Tsukuyomi no mikoto) is one of the gods of Japanese mythology. According to " Kojiki (Records of Ancient Matters)" and "Nihon Shoki (Chronicles of Japan)," Tsukuyomi was born from Izanagi . Generally, Tsukuyomi is considered to be the god of the moon who rules the night, but some oppose this view (as discussed later). Tsukuyomi is also referred to as Tsukiyomi.
Based on the story that Tsukuyomi killed Ukemochi no kami (the god of whole grain) with a sword in "Nihon Shoki," this god is generally considered to be male; however, there is no description in " Kojiki " or "Nihon Shoki" that determines the gender of this god. Some scholars argue that Tsukuyomi is female because the myths of many other countries depict the god of the moon as female (and even militant) and that the story of killing Ukemochi no kami isn't decisive enough to conclude that Tsukuyomi is male.
Although Tsukuyomi is considered to be the god of the moon, his (or her) divinity varies from one literary source to the next. According to " Kojiki ," Tsukuyomi was born from the right eye of Izanagi as she purified herself when running back home from Yomi (the world after death), as well as Amaterasu from her left eye and Susanoo from her nose, and together they comprise Mihashira no uzuno miko (the three noble children). On the other hand, in "Nihon Shoki" Tsukuyomi was born from Izanagi 's left eye or a masokagami (bronze mirror) held in her right hand, and his (or her) ruling area is different from story to story-at one time the heavens and at another the ocean.
Tsukuyomi was born in a pair with Amaterasu, the god of the sun, and this idea is, in comparison mythology, common across various myths. For example, in the Chinese Pangu legend "Gounrekinenki" there is a story of the origin of the sun and moon, which states that Pangu's left eye became the sun and his right eye the moon as he d
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