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Registration's totally free, of course, and makes snowHeads easier to use and to understand, gives better searching, filtering etc. When you register, you get our free weekly -ish snow report by email. It's rather good and not made up by tourist offices or people that love the tourist office and want to marry it either We don't share your email address with anyone and we never send out any of those cheesy 'message from our partners' emails either. Anyway, snowHeads really is MUCH better when you're logged in - not least because you get to post your own messages complaining about things that annoy you like perhaps this banner which, incidentally, disappears when you log in Username:- Password:. Or: Register to be a proper snow-head, all official-like! Prev topic :: Next topic. Poster: A snowHead. Hello everyone, first post here so apologies if its already been discussed! I am looking at planning a skiing holiday for of us next year. I have always booked on behalf of our groups last 15 years , mostly booking independently to save on costs however I have also occasionally booked through an agent. We have skied mostly France, but also the likes of Italy, Bulgaria. Finland etc however Austria has always been on the bucket list. It's only the last couple of years where I have actually looked into it and the group are also keen. Im amazed at how much more expensive Austria is for what you get!? Ski hire is extortionate, KM of piste is limited compared to France etc. To get to the point Thanks in advance everyone. Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person. This link is for Neilson's Winter 22 offers page and would suggest that prices are similar to French Resorts. Ski Hire usually comes with discounts, especially if you book in advance, or as part of a Ski School package. Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see? A few years ago we did managng to find a chalet in Solden for not much more than you'd pay for the equivilant in France, but it was much more than m from the nearest lift. It is worth spending some more time searching. You need to Login to know who's really who. Ischgl and St Anton are expensive compared to many other areas in Austria. What do you want from Austria? Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do. Surprised the price difference is that high but would be very hard to justify if you are mainly piste skiing IMO. St Anton is a great off piste destination for good skiers. You'll need to Register first of course. It would be good to have a better idea of what you have been booking in France and what you are looking for in Austria. I can't comment on agent prices as I have never used one but regularly book independently to Austria, staying in self catering apartments. I try and get a few trips in each year and I don't find it expensive for what you get. The villages themselves are generally very charming and have usually started out life as a village which then has developed as a ski resort, so the access to the lifts can be less convenient than French purpose built stations which are designed around access to skiing but are pretty brutal in design and lack charm. The bus links in Austria are very good and if you are near a bus stop, treat it as another lift which you only need to take at the beginning and end of the day. Accommodation can be trickier in Austria as there are a lot of double rooms compared to French apartments where you will find bunks and sofa beds, alpine corners etc. Suitable apartments are out there but you will need to look for them and they will get repeat bookings from regular guests at peak times. The smaller areas tend to be cheaper and quieter than the bigger ones and can be surprisingly well developed in terms of infrastructure. The lift pass options are also geared up to covering multiple areas and represent excellent value when you consider the km's of piste on offer. Lift infrastructure is better in Austria and you don't get the queues that you find in France. The pistes are generally less bumpy for some reason - I suspect that the skiing style has something to do with it?? The mountain restaurants are excellent and great value. The apres is great and a lot of places on the mountain are open after the lifts have shut for sun-downers and partying before skiing down and carrying on in town. There is a friendly vibe on the mountain in general. I have three weeks booked for Austria next year: January to Hochkonig for 6 of us. Feb half term to Ellmau x 4. March to Zell am See area x 4. Passes the same. We use this trip to ski different areas in the vicinity. Which is a great way to see lot's of places and not repeat areas during the week. I don't think that these are expensive and they have taken a bit of finessing over the years in terms of when to go and where to stay and how to approach Austrian skiing in general but I wouldn't choose France over Austria when planning a trip these days. Then you can post your own questions or snow reports I've always thought Austria to be better value than France, particularly when it comes to food and drink. The exceptions are probably the two resorts you highlight but there is so much more to skiing in Austria than just Ischgl and St Anton! I tend to make independent arrangements and by using resort website accommodation services have found some fantastic, high-quality, accommodation in the likes of Solden, Saalbach-Hinterglemm and the Ski Juwel. As mentioned previously, chalet board is not common outside of St Anton and Ischgl but some of the small hotels and guests houses we have stayed in have been utterly superb and great value! The Ski Amade region is next on my radar. I think it's worth doing the leg-work outside the normal tour operator resorts, you might pleasantly surprise yourself with what you come up with! After all it is free. Self-catered apartments are much harder to come by in Austria and more expensive, though are usually bigger than their French equivalents. Catered chalets are nearly non-existent in Austria. You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net. Just PM when you know what you're looking for. Ski the Net with snowHeads. Quote: Lift infrastructure is better in Austria and you don't get the queues that you find in France. Oddly one of the things that puts me off Austria are the big lift queues. In St. Anton and Solden it was typically 30 minutes at the start of each day queuing for the lift out of town plus some others following on. It's odd well it isn't really how different people experience different places differently. To me France is largely ordinary families going on holiday to the slopes together. They stay in low price apartments, eat in most of the time, some seem to ski very little I was chatting ot one lady on a lift on a Wednesday who confessed she had been in the resort since Saturday and it was her first day on the slopes. I have seen very few of the luxury or knarly parts of the spectrum. To me French ski resorts are much more laid back than Austrian ones. Which is why I think the OP should visit Austria and see how they find it. Klamm Franzer , your three trips would all be covered by the Salzburg Super Pass. Check to see if it is cheaper to buy a season pass rather than three separate passes. And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports. It is. And i say that as an owner in a french ski resort. So if you're just off somewhere snowy come back and post a snow report of your own and we'll all love you very much. France really is the UK destination isn't it. But Austria can be good too. In summary; Shorter transfers- especially from Innsbruck. Modern faster lifts usually. Cheaper faster and better food and beer by a lot. We were astonished in Obergurgul when we sat down- as if by magic a waiter appeared a waiter took our order and returned within a minute or two with frothy beers and hot chocolate mit zahne and strudle for cheap. Ski in ski out is different- lots of places will have ski buses as is also the case in other ski destinations- other parts of France, Italy as most of the villages are- villages as opposed to purpose built resorts. Woodcarving, painted exteriors etc. There may well be cows in sheds. Because they are mostly villages which have become ski resorts they are significantly lower in terms of the snow than the French purpose built places. Hence the ski in ski out differences. I like cows in sheds. You can also get cows in sheds in some places in France but they won't be ski in ski out. Apres usually more vigourous- lots of French resorts can be a bit dead and those that do have nightlife can be super expensive. Price wise- I think you are looking in the wrong places regards accommodation. Accommodation- I'd suggest less likely to be tired than France, two to three times the size if not more. A loo you can sit on without bruising your knees and more than enough piping hot water. Resort size- yes smaller at individual ski resorts- but there are lots of places in which you can ski up and down the same valley- via bus- e. Skiing- pistes well maintained although they do piste bash during the day- be careful. Ski passes probably more, ski hire- have a look we don't rent. Clientele- far fewer Brits usually. Staff very unlikely to be Brits. More pissed people on the pistes at going home time. At that time being brown in Austria was uncomfortable. When we went back with kids more recently this was not an issue. France is clearly more convenient in terms of booking logistics; English run places, frequency and cost of flights, ease of sorting out a cheap English transfer, cheap accommodation. We usually ski in France as that is where we go we go there because we go there if you see what I mean , usually to Chamonix- which has a small pisted ski area that is a pain in the back bottom to get around. Eldest son has skied in Austria recently, race training- which was v cheap. It is probably worth looking at something different. We'd not look at km of piste as a meaningful indicator of resort quality. You know it makes sense. I generally get an early flight out and a late one back so I can get 7. It means that the 3rd trip is largely 'free'. Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:. There are many far cheaper resorts in Austria. Personally I only really want to go to the Arlberg these days but I accept that I could ski a lot cheaper elsewhere. There are plenty a resorts nearer to Munich which would involve less travelling and cost less. Long time since I skied in France but I would say there are generally some things France is good for and some things Austria is good for generalisations are always a bit dodgy. Lift passes can be expensive and some of the lifts have seen better days. Whilst the stereotype is of a village with a small ski area, that is no longer true. Access is generally easy too. If you want a better all around ski holiday away from a collection of towers block in a bleak spot my memory of Tignes! RedandWhiteFlachau , Thanks, looking at now as we're booked for Ski Juwel in January cheap and cheerful and Nendaz very high-end expensive! Forgot to add that an hour in Goatstall in Hinterglemm after skiing and you will probably never want to go anywhere else! Scarlet wrote: ed wrote: within a minute or two with frothy beers and hot chocolate mit zahne and strudle I'd suggest in future you might want to order mit Sahne as it does sound like the waiter inadvertently dropped their dentures in your drink! Yes, I was laughing at that too! Scarlet ,. We never pay over the odds for the quality of service we receive, we enjoy the Austrian ski experience much more, it doesn't have to be expensive So, overall imv they operate a bygone business model. Research is my suggestion, you won't get it right first time, but it's not that hard. Alastair Pink , i got it! I finally understand some german!! Scarlet , I suppose it could be slang for hot chocolate with Stroh rum. In Austria, yes not sure about DE. The only place it's been confusing is the woodcutter's hut in Gressoney Italy , where it seemed to depend on who was on the bar as to what type of coffee you were served. Klamm Franzer wrote: Accommodation can be trickier in Austria as there are a lot of double rooms compared to French apartments where you will find bunks and sofa beds, alpine corners etc. So France is cheaper in a wurst-case scenario? I've skied plenty of times in France and also more recently Austria. Take a look at this, for example, in Stuben linked to the whole Arlberg inc St Anton ski area. We always went at Easter and prices here were always comparable to French catered chalets for a higher quality experience. Wow thank you everyone, blown away by the number and quality of responses! I will certainly look into the links and info provided so thank you. To answer the questions around what we are looking for Also the Apres ski is a big factor we love. So I guess this was the reason I have initially been looking at St Anton and Ischgal as these are considered two of the top places considered for size and especially apres! Will broaden my horizons - thank you for the enlightenment and time taken to reply everyone! Saalbach Hinterglemm! The Goastall a close second. The night skiing in Hinterglemm is also terrific fun. Cacciatore wrote: Scarlet wrote: ed wrote: within a minute or two with frothy beers and hot chocolate mit zahne and strudle I'd suggest in future you might want to order mit Sahne as it does sound like the waiter inadvertently dropped their dentures in your drink! I much prefer austria. Meat and potato v cheese and bread Better beer and usually cheaper as mountain prices are similar to town. I am not sure how your prices are so high though. Take a look at Sunweb - prices include lift passes. Look around the the Salzburg side and resorts accessible form that airport. Is ski in ski out a must? The quality and price of accommodation, and also restaurants, in Austria is generally so good that no one needs to stay in a catered chalet, with indifferent standards and services provided by gap year students. The Austrian economy relies heavily on winter tourism. Two thirds of winter visitors to Austrian ski resorts are from other countries, whereas in France two thirds of visitors are French. The atmosphere is totally different. The Austrians work very hard to ensure a positive and welcoming holiday experience for their guests and seem to really value repeat bookings and regular guests. Although ski-in ski-out accommodation may not be the norm in Austria, owing to the lack of purpose-built ski stations, it is nonetheless possible to find such accommodation if you do your research. At the very least it should be possible to find accommodation that is so close to the slopes and the nearest lift station that you would never need to use a ski bus. In some cases you might need to walk only a few yards. Choose your resort carefully, and do your research on exactly where your accommodation is located. Flights to Salzburg, Innsbruck and Munich are invariably cheap with the usual budget operators, and many resorts are only an hour or so away from the first two of those airports, making a private taxi transfer for four or more people very affordable. If you're contemplating visiting my neck of the Alps, drop me a PM, and I'll email you tons of useful information. As our son and daughter became a teens they objected to sharing a bed, albeit a big one. They have separate mattresses and separate duvets. If necessary a barrier can be constructed down the middle to prevent any accidental, nocturnal bodily contact. The Austrian style twin beds to me are seen as an advantage. Both couples and two singles can sleep in them. How often do married couples complain that one is either colder or warmer than the other. What a great idea to have your own duvet with whatever tog you chose. Twin beds and bunk beds are definitely available, but they probably get booked up quickly. If that's what you need, email the hotel directly and ask them what they have available. DB wrote: Cacciatore wrote: Scarlet wrote: ed wrote: within a minute or two with frothy beers and hot chocolate mit zahne and strudle I'd suggest in future you might want to order mit Sahne as it does sound like the waiter inadvertently dropped their dentures in your drink! New Topic Post Reply. Snow Snow Snow! Solo Skiers v Groups - Orga Archives Lost and Found Ski Club of Great Britain To one side secret Mountain Hideout snowShops You cannot post to forums until you login You cannot read some forums until you login Read about snow conditions : snow conditions And leave your own snow report : snow report Find advice to help plan your ski holidays : ski holidays The snowHeads Ski Club : Ski Club 2. Terms and conditions Privacy Policy. Snow Reports. Is Austria worth the extra money? After all it is free After all it is free. So if you're just off somewhere snowy come back and post a snow report of your own and we'll all love you very much So if you're just off somewhere snowy come back and post a snow report of your own and we'll all love you very much. Mankei wrote:. Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name: Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:. Scarlet wrote:. Nadenoodlee wrote:. I suppose it could be slang for hot chocolate with Stroh rum. Klamm Franzer wrote:. Cacciatore wrote:. DB wrote:.

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