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Basic farm data: 'Holstein dairy farmer with 95 milking cows. Calves are fed 8 liters of milk or sometimes milk replacer per day and are weaned at 2 months. Before weaning they also have calf starter and water at all time. They easily consume almost 3 kg grain when weaned. After weaning groups of are in large pens plenty of space with deep straw bedding over mattress. Temperature, humidity, ventilation and light are all good. Farmer has tried everything including stopping feeding milk from nipple pail or keep going and provide a nipple on the wall after weaning. Problem is that since they continue at months you can give water through nipple at that age. She is currently putting metal rings on the nose to prevent suckling but it retards growth. Looked at genetic line but did not find any correlations'. What can we do to stop this behavior? Please let us know what you think! Metal spiked rings do work but try smearing peppermint oil on to the teats that are being sucked, you have to repeat over a few days but it stops calves sucking. My first guess is that when you observe feeding, feed and the calves as it really happens, that you will find the probable bottle neck. A camera might be of use here. Calves suckle for three reasons: 1. So this behavior is expressed typically when calves are still hungry after a meal of milk and have not satisfied their suckling need. Take care energy intakes are sufficient while meal intakes are low. Days 1 to 14, concentrating milk with powder works well to avoid weight loss during this time. The relevance to your problem may be the lack of suckling required to achieve energy intakes from a relatively young age Good luck. Also straw or relatively low energy fibre available ad lib and water available from day 1 course not coarse :. Hi, I think the problem is a lack of succing during the milk period. We use a teat made of strong rubber. The calves are succing more than 10 min. If you beginn with this teats early after day 3 after birth you will minimize the succing problem almost to zero percent. You need a strict system with one new teat for every new calve. After weaning the teats have to be changed. You can use this teats with buckets of 5 to 12 teats per bucket. I work with this system since with great succes. You can find more information at the website of Milk Bar. Can you post a video of calves drinking? Are they satisfied when they do come up to drink? And can they drink when they come up to the machine. If they are sucking prepuces then that is another question! Feed them by nipples and not from buckets. Let them suckle long enough to satisfy their natural suckling behaviour. Suckling one each others teats can also be a sign of stress. Hunger, cold, social stress, weaning etc. Find and remove he stress factors! Give one more meal per day. Give them dry roughage for free, Ruminating prevents them from beeing bored and suckling others theats. If you have lockers, lock them up for 15 minutes after feeding milk and give the concentrate to eat. The behaviour pattern of suckling is not very well satisfied when the milk is given in a bucket etc and especially when to restricted 8 liter is ok in my opinion. Just as the calf is drinking the milk is finished - to be compared of suckling behaviour when a calf stays with its mother. Have had problems in the past with 3 quarter heifers. Keeping them separate fixed the problem in our situation. All the above are good points to check out. Nipple feeding must be better than buckets when feeding large milk volumes. We tried aerosol sprays designed to stop feather pecking in chickens, mixed results. Presumably where it failed the behavioural drivers were very strong. Note, are all the blind quarters due to trauma from the sucking? I associate blind teats with Mycoplasma infection in pre puberty heifers. Noserings, aerosol spray, peppermint etc. Maybe they have lack of some minerals, check the milk and if the cows cover theyre need of minerals, also the mineralstatus of the drycow. Do they have feed all the time? Remember to change the milk nipples before they are well used. I agree with others that they need good second cut grass hay at all times ad lib from day 1. Unless those two points are met, calves sucking on each other will always be a potential. Also, wean them at 3 months instead of two: look at a lactation curve - the cow peaks between days and that is biologically for the calf. Had this problem in UK many years ago. Fixed it by covering the calves teats with Stockholm tar. Also works very well for pizzle suckers and keeps flies away from heifers udders in summer. What we do here is. It can Be multifactorial. Climate, housing, minerals, feeding strategy not only at the moment of weaning but the complete feeding strategy from weeks, the management around weaning And health status. Interesting comments from all. We would suggest a programme which combines a mechanism to reduce drinking speed i. This reduces the liklihood that thy will seek out another teat after feeding. I can recommend a special TMR for calves. From the first days it is possible to use a mixture of dried green alfalfa. For older calves about 3 weeks of age, it is possible to produce a TMR of chopped straw, corn silage and cereals and soybean meal. Calves have no problem with the transition to plant diet and minimizes mutual 'drinking'. This could be an easy way to not learn them this bad behaviour!! And prevent weaning stress with gradual weaning Every step with one week in between. See our video learning program youngstocksignals!! Excellent 5 hour training for advisors and farmers!! Straw prepare with milling machine so they have to eat straw as well as concentrate in it. I belive that unprepared straw is not good for ruminants, especially not good when they have to form the rumen micropopulation. Milled straw is very good solutions. If they are eating unprepared straw and rumen is not formed yet so good they have to spend lot of energy to degrade it in rumen, and they will do anything to get that energy needed. Especially if they are eating 3 kilos of concentrate. That is too much at that time. Milled straw or hay, the best thing for them in good quantities and 1, kilos of concentrate at 2 months of age. After weaning and making sure they eat 0,,5 kilos of hay or straw per day and 1 to 2 kilos of concentrate, need for suckling should be reduced because rumen is producing heat from fiber degradation. As long they eat much concentrate lower ph in rumen , and little fiber small amount of celulitic bacteria , they will always look for fast energy source milk and then we got a habit. Good habits are good, but bad habits are not desirable. My way of seeing things. Seo-runs сервис по продвижению сайтов. Ежедневное обновление. Бесплатное порно Ебацца. Заходите и цените! Порнуха уже тут! On of our trainers from Canada has an interesting case. What would you do to solve this problem? Comments Anouk Brinkhoff. Hi Sue, thanks for your suggestion! Here is some more information from Jan Hulsen: My first guess is that when you observe feeding, feed and the calves as it really happens, that you will find the probable bottle neck. Thank You nice people for the expiriences You give to all of us: :. Keeping them separate fixed the problem in our situation Thanks. Thanks for all your thoughts! Great to hear what you think! See we are still getting a lot of tips here. Keep up the good work! 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