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I have been in correspondence with a DonWands staff member and was informed that the deluxe/lattachino style toys are done 'inside out', which means the toy is hollow. I was also informed they have a hole in them, which is not plugged.

From other reviewers and video evidence as well as forum discussion, I have discovered that yes, some other companies have hollow toys but after a certain thickness this is okay- it becomes just as durable. However in the DonWands toy I saw footage of the toy was very thin, and the hole had been plugged, but the plug was removed when discovered- the hole was also large enough for the toy to easily take on water, but the water became trapped in the toy and was not able to be removed.

At this point, after confirming yes the toys are hollow and yes they have holes, the DonWands rep stopped responding to me. If this is true, can you please start informing purchasers of this? There are many reasons why this would interfere with someone's purchasing decision.

If this is not true, please confront representative "Mike S." since he was the one who confirmed this for me.

I looked on your website and nowhere does it say the toys are hollow or have holes. So please if this is true, admit it so that you can sell your toys as what they actually are, and so people are not misled.




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The Don Wands issue aside (which is totally gross btw):

I would really like to know which glass dildos available on EF are hollow and which are not. I realize I could write to each manufacturer, but I think this should be included in the product specs.


The Don Wands issue aside (which is totally gross btw): I would really like to know which glass dildos available on EF are hollow and which are not. I realize I could write to each manufacturer, but I think this should be included in the
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The Don Wands issue aside (which is totally gross btw): I would really like to know which glass dildos available on EF are hollow and which are not. I realize I could write to each manufacturer, but I think this should be included in the product specs.



Just for the record, I am relatively sure that Phallix dildos are solid. The weight of them seems to attest to that.


The Don Wands issue aside (which is totally gross btw): I would really like to know which glass dildos available on EF are hollow and which are not. I realize I could write to each manufacturer, but I think this should be included in the
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The Don Wands issue aside (which is totally gross btw): I would really like to know which glass dildos available on EF are hollow and which are not. I realize I could write to each manufacturer, but I think this should be included in the product specs.



Just for the record, I am relatively sure that Phallix dildos are solid. The weight of them seems to attest to that.


Adam from Xhale said here: link that some of their products are hollow as well, and explained why some hollow glass is bad and some isn't - still going on to say "most hollow pieces should be a major concern."

To me, this is similar to the "Silicone" claims by manufacturers when there is actually only a small percentage of silicone in the product. Eden takes the steps to let us know which products are actually 100% silicone and which are otherwise.

My request is the same type of information on solid vs. hollow glass. I don't really know if that is possible or even what information should be offered, but I don't think I'm going to buy any more glass until I know exactly which manufacturers produce hollow glass and which don't.


Adam from Xhale said here: link that some of their products are hollow as well, and explained why some hollow glass is bad and some isn't - still going on to say "most hollow pieces should be a major concern." To me, this is
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Adam from Xhale said here: link that some of their products are hollow as well, and explained why some hollow glass is bad and some isn't - still going on to say "most hollow pieces should be a major concern." To me, this is similar to the "Silicone" claims by manufacturers when there is actually only a small percentage of silicone in the product. Eden takes the steps to let us know which products are actually 100% silicone and which are otherwise. My request is the same type of information on solid vs. hollow glass. I don't really know if that is possible or even what information should be offered, but I don't think I'm going to buy any more glass until I know exactly which manufacturers produce hollow glass and which don't.



Maybe they could list a thickness of the walls, and have thickness ranges as part of the safety ranking (maybe 9.1 for the thinnest that's still safe, 9.5 for medium thickness, up through 10 for so-thick-it's-uber-saf e and for solid
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Maybe they could list a thickness of the walls, and have thickness ranges as part of the safety ranking (maybe 9.1 for the thinnest that's still safe, 9.5 for medium thickness, up through 10 for so-thick-it's-uber-saf e and for solid glass). As Adam from Xhale said, even a "cheap" hollow glass toy is pretty safe, because your body can't produce enough pressure to break it. He may have said "a major concern," but he later said that there's probably nothing to worry about. It may someday break, but it won't be in your body. It will be, for example, when it rolls off the counter and falls onto the tile floor, or when it slips out of your hand during washing and chips on the porcelain sink. A little perspective here: while a thinner walled glass toy isn't as shatterproof as a thick-walled one, it's still much safer than a rubber toy or a TPR toy. A rubber toy can harbor bacteria and give you infections while you use it. A "thinnest safe" glass toy may break or chip when it's not being used, but it won't break inside you or cut you as long as you always check for chips and cracks before every use. (If any of the above isn't true, please correct me.)



It seems the lattachino styles are indeed hollow, even the ones by Phallix. Myself and Miss KissThis both have different lattachino dildos from Phallix that appear to be hollow.

However, they don't have HOLES in the ends of them.


I emailed Phallix this morning, asking the thickness of the glass of my lattachino wand, as well as how it was produced to ensure there aren't any holes. I'll keep you guys updated with what I hear back.


Yes hollow dildos CAN be safe... but only at a certain thickness. The DW toy I saw was very thin at the end with the hole. As well, Xhale is referring to using a hollow core and building onto it as far as I know. To go even further with this, just because it wont be crushed by you, it is still less durable in the long run, AND the hole will collect bacteria and take on water.

It depends on the quality of the manufacturing process as well as the overall thickness of the glass. DW just doesn't seem to have either factor on their side until they state so and prove us wrong- either the thinness in the toy I saw was a fluke, or its considered 'safe' by them despite looking only a few MM thick.


Maybe it's just me but the words, hollow, glass, vagina, all in the same sentence make me cringe. Thickness isn't even an issue.


Maybe it's just me but the words, hollow, glass, vagina, all in the same sentence make me cringe. Thickness isn't even an issue.


I'm not fussed so much about hollowness (although if the glass were THIN and hollow, that'd be a problem), but I do worry about leaving holes open. It's like asking to have bacteria gather in your toy, or to have the edge of the hole
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I'm not fussed so much about hollowness (although if the glass were THIN and hollow, that'd be a problem), but I do worry about leaving holes open. It's like asking to have bacteria gather in your toy, or to have the edge of the hole possibly cut you.



I totally agree that EF should list what is hollow and what is not. I would be even better if they could list the thickness of the walls as well.


I want to make an update to this thread..
As of now I am not legally able to disclose any contact I have with Don Wands. However, all info in this thread and on my blog was posted BEFORE this notice was served to me and the notice is not retroactive as far as I know. So, unless they publicly speak on the matter, I have to bow out for now as far as informing people of what they say.


Wow, I had no idea that some of the Phallix toys were hollow. I just ordered Kira's violet sidekick and now I'm nervous I understand that hollow toys can be safe, too, but if I ding mine and miss the ding, and the ding begins to fracture...I don't know. Too many possible ways I could fuck it up. I need my toys to be idiot proof


Wow, I had no idea that some of the Phallix toys were hollow. I just ordered Kira's violet sidekick and now I'm nervous I understand that hollow toys can be safe, too, but if I ding mine and miss the ding, and the ding begins to fracture...I
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Wow, I had no idea that some of the Phallix toys were hollow. I just ordered Kira's violet sidekick and now I'm nervous I understand that hollow toys can be safe, too,
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