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Published: 13:57 BST, 24 February 2016 | Updated: 00:33 BST, 25 February 2016
Self-styled Reverend Howard Curtis is charged with a number of sex offences over spankings he handed out at the church he 'ran like a cult'
A evangelical pastor administered 'spiritual discipline' by spanking female members of his congregation's bare bottoms with his hand, a court has heard.
Self-styled Reverend Howard Curtis, 73, is accused of dishing out the spankings at his Coulsdon Christian Fellowship for his own 'sexual satisfaction.
Prosecutor Toby Fitzgerald told Croydon Crown Court that father-of-three Curtis, of Wallington, south London, ran the church as a cult.
He ordered one woman to strip naked before putting her over his knee and slapping her until she collapsed on the floor.
Mr Fitzgerald said: 'She trusted him completely as a man of God.
'She pulled down her trousers and underwear and lay across his lap. He hit her hard about twelve times until she ended up on the floor.
'She'd become, in effect, a rag doll in the defendant's hands.'
Curtis also took naked pictures of her on his mobile phone and fondled the woman between her legs, the jury were told.
When arrested he did not deny the spankings but insisted they were consensual, the court heard.
The court heard that another woman was told it was 'God's will' she be punished and agreed to his form of discipline.
Mr Fitzgerald said: 'She leaned over a bannister in a hallway and took her trousers and knickers down so he could spank her bare bottom.
'She was told it was important not to tell him when to stop, he would decide when it was time to stop and he continued to beat her forcefully.
'There were twenty to thirty strikes with his bare hand and she felt it was going on forever and was crying. She was black and blue and told all these actions were in God's name.'
Curtis has pleaded not guilty to two sample counts of sexually assaulting the first victim between January 2009 and July 2013.
He also denies two counts of sexual assault against the second woman woman between January 2007 and December 2009.
He also denies one count of child cruelty between March 2007 and February 2008 in relation to the second woman's nine year-old daughter.
Curtis, who denies the charges, ran the Coulsdon Christian Fellowship from this building in south London
She was put over his knee and beaten 'very hard' until she started crying, the court was told.
He also denies two counts of child cruelty in relation to a young boy, aged approximately eight years-old who is said to have spanked up to five times.
Curtis has also pleaded not guilty to causing actual bodily harm to a thirteen year-old girl who he allegedly spanked a dozen times with a slipper for disobedience between January 1969 and January 1971.
Curtis was ordained in 1988 under the umbrella of the Elim Pentecostal church.
'He presented himself as an inspirational man of God,' said Mr Fitzgerald. 'The Crown say the church was run for this defendant and he cloaked himself in the trappings of a religious leader.
'In reality he was nothing of the sort. He deceived his congregation, including children.
'He said he was going to cast out evil spirits from people and that discipline had to be administered by striking bare flesh with the bare hand.'
The trial, which is expected to last four weeks, continues.
Croydon Crown Court heard Curtis told the women 'he was going to cast out evil spirits'
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using a rubber paddle or a rubber strap
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Any male ca. 16 and up who receives corporal punishment needs something that stings with truly serious pain if such punishment is going to remain effective for him. Years ago I determined that what had been good for me as a boy might remain good for me as a man and got myself a punishment strap made of black neoprene rubber about 3 1/2" wide, about 1/8" thick and about 15" long and with a wooden handle to help the person administering the punishment to control the strap.
I had a friend who, like me, as using corporal punishment with his youngsters and who agreed with me that perhaps this experience could be helpful for us AND that if we had done something we thought called for it, we should be "man" enough to ask each other for as much of the strap as it would take to help make us VERY SORRY for what we'd done.
After the strap arrived, we got together one day at the other guys house when his wife was not there and "practiced" with two layers of bubble-wrap tied securely around our behinds. You could feel some pressure when it licked you, but there was no pain. We decided to cut the strap down to 12", at which point we felt we'd be able to control it enough and to make it really "work."
The word was, too, that the rubber would sting even worse if you rubbed a light coat of baby oil or vasoline around your behind. I must assume that this advice was correct; at least, it certainly did not make that strap ineffective!!
The day came when I very unlovingly sassed off my wife and felt I needed to ask my friend for a good dose of the strap. I did apologize to her, and loving wife that she is, she forgave me. I did not tell her, however, how I was also going to "pay my price" for what I did, but that following week-end, when she and my kids were away for the day, I asked my friend to stop by the house and give me what I deserved for mouthing off to my wife like I'd done.
We'd agreed that we would bend over the back of a chair, like we both had to do when we were teen-agers. He had begun to punish his teen-age boy in the same position, so he was "experienced" in licking it on in that position. (My youngsters were not yet that old.) So when he got to the house, we went in our bed-room, I stripped down to an athletic supporter, which is how I always got it from my dad, rubbed my behind with vasoline, and told him to give it to me until he was convinced I'd had enough and not to stop until such point.
It was incredibly horrible!!!! At least as bad as anything I ever got from my dad!!! It only took about a half dozen licks until I could not keep quiet, and after a while I was yelling and finally crying like a teen-ager. He told me some days later that he gave me 25 licks with that strap, and believe me, it was as horrible as anything I can remember ever getting from my dad.
It did the job! I've never felt the need to ask for it again, though I am firmly convinced that its existence in my house is helpful. I did lick my friend on two occasions, and in both cases, he also ended up crying like a teen-age boy.
I doubt that a paddle, even a lexan paddle, would hurt that bad, partly because it does not curl around your behind like this rubber strap does. By the time it's over, your entire behind is red and hurts like you can't believe from one side to the other and from "top to bottom." The total square inches of fiery pain you get far exceeds what a paddle would ever do to you. And just as bad: you get 3 1/2" x ca. 8 or 9", thus ca. 27 or 30 square inches of incredibly hideous sting each time the strap licks you!!!
My friend was so "taken" by the experience that he got a thick rubber paddle from the Hanson firm to start using on his teen-age boy, there again able to spread the licks around and thus to cover the entire behind with pain so fiery and to effect the kind of anguish that so bad that there is no doubt that the punishment has taken effect. He does NOT use a rubber strap on his boy, but the rubber paddle he uses has a blade of about 3" x 6" or about 18 square inches of sting as of each lick, and he told me that when he tried it on himself before starting to use it with his boy, he could not go beyond about 7 or 8 licks because the pain had become so fiery that he could no longer stand it. He said that the boy's age plus one is more than enough licks to make his son also very sorry for what he did that deserved such punishment.
So my own experience, receiving the strap one time and delivering it to my friend two times, makes clear that it "gets to you" in adult years in the same way it needs to "get to" a boy, if corporal punishment is going to "work" for him.
It may not be for everyone, but for my friend and me, it's been incredibly effective and useful. I think we are both better husbands and fathers and citizens because we are ready to "support" each other even this way if it seems called for.
I have a friend at work who got is boy a rubber paddle like the one described when the boy turned 13. He says it makes him start crying almost right away and that in not time at all he's crying very hard. My friend also tried it on himself and apparently with the same fiery results in the message above. He uses the same system: one lick for each year of the boy's age "plus one to grow." One would wonder if there is anything better to use than one of those rubber paddles, given how it is safer than a hard paddle, small to control, but apparently with VERY ugly, fiery sting that makes it very effective.
I used a paddle made of 1/4" lexan and equipped with 13 holes to make the sting even more fiery. It gave my boys exactly what they needed when corporal punishment was called for.
However, I was always concerned about injury, esp. broken bones. So if were starting out all over again, I would probably use one of the new-style thick rubber paddles described here (above). It helps to make it hurt bad enough to make the boy cry pretty bad by the time he has half of the licks you're going to give him, and I take it that a rubber paddle can hurt at least that bad and maybe worse. It may be that a thick rubber paddle is the best thing you can use AND that it can hurt enough to give a teen-ager what he needs, which means you can keep using the same thing from little on up until he no longer needs that kind of punishment.
I have never used the over-the-knee position, but a rubber paddle would be perfect for a boy in that position, and even a high school boy could be required to go across your knee for a good dose of a rubber paddle that would give him what he needs.
I'm glad my days of administering corporal punishment are over!
25 or 30 good, hard licks with a short, thick rubber paddle, spread all around the behind, would make any adult son very sorry for his misdeed. The rubber paddle would be a lot easier to use and to control, compared with a rubber strap, though if you did it right, the strap could be made to curl the whole way around the behind, making each lick worse than any given lick with the rubber paddle.
I find a rubber strap to be most useful when punishing my son. It's flexibility is a bonus when a quick "smack" to his bare legs is required (shorts are worn at home!) also, for more serious attention, I find the strap does certainly curl around the behind to give a fuller coverage. To acheive a good blow one needs to be standing to the bending young man's side but not too close, rather in line with his upper torso than right over his bottom. Soon this 20 year old is as tearful as a baby and attitude adjustment is well and truly acheived.
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Well, what would I REALLY like? Let me open way up and tell
you about me and what I really want.
Sitting at breakfast one day,
Id like a Dad to quiz me about some misbehaviour, in my mind this
is about a traffic violation or being caught doing something I am
expressly forbidden to do. Maybe one of the more serious rules he
would have posted on his fridge for me?
After much wriggling and
trying to avoid the carefully planned questions Dad is using, I break
and sobbing I confess to him all that happened.
Instead of the expected
lecture - he remains quiet and still and simply gazes at me for a
few minutes. I try to avoid his direct gaze but I cant. I feel the
blood rush to my face as it turns red.
After what seems like hours
but in reality is only a minute or two - he tells me how upset and
disappointed he is in me. I sob again, this time louder, and he comes
to me and takes me in his arms. He holds me there and hugs me tightly,
I start to feel secure and quiet down. After a few minutes of comforting
I fee his hand gently patting my bottom as he tells me that I must
be punished. His hand on my bottom tell me all I need to know. Sure
it feels good but I know its not there for my comfort this time and
I know Im in for it now! I hoarsely acknowledge his comment and hug
him even tighter and as tightly as I possibly can while his hands
are touching me in preparation. Its as if I am shaking.
Eventually
he lets me go and tells me to finish my breakfast, I don't feel like
eating now and play with my food, until he asks me if I would prefer
a sore bottom to eating my breakfast?
For sure, I dont. I reply
'no' but I slowly finish up anyway.
After breakfast, he sends me
to my room, where I am ordered to stay until he comes to get me. I
stay there lonely and wondering for over an hour. Eventually he enters
and sits on the edge of the bed. He motions me over, and I think to
myself, here it begins a spanking for sure.
But he doesn't, instead
he takes me and sits me on his lap, then he starts to talk softly
about the disappointment and lack of self discipline. Then he drops
the bomb shell, I am going to punish you and It will be a very long
and hard spanking, but not now, I am genuinely angry with you and
I will not spank you while I am. I also want you to think long and
hard about what you have done and about the spanking you have coming
to you. This is Monday morning, so your spanking will take place this
Friday after dinner.
Friday after dinner???? I could not believe
what he was saying to me – surely he couldn't be serious, he's going
to make me wait 4 days before punishing me. My mind was in a whirl
and I barley heard the rest of his comments until the word grounding
and corner time hit my ears. I had further punishments, I was grounded
from 6PM onwards for the rest of the week, I was also to do one hour
of corner time each evening before bed and bedtime was set at 10.30PM.
I was ready to go off on one of my usual sulks and start to protest
loudly, until I saw the look of determination on his face this time.
This was a real dad and he knows me too well. I quickly discarded
that plan and answered in my most childish voice 'yes sir'.
The
week passed so very slowly, I hated being made to go to bed like a
little boy, just as much as spending an hour in the corner, and Dad
in his infinite wisdom had decided that to enforce the action, corner
time was to be done with my jeans and boxers at my ankles, to remind
me and make me think of my pending spanking. There is just something
about standing like that with my bare buns showing around his house.
I hate it! I hate it! I hate it!
Friday crept
round an so did dinner, I was very quiet and exceptionally well mannered
that night. I could see him occasionally smile at me and I knew that
my bare bottom was about to pay a heavy price for my stupid and irresponsible
behaviour. After dinner, I just sat, no knowing what to do. Dad simply
filled a glass up with some wine (without offering me any), and slowly
drank it while he let him meal settle.
I was beside myself with
anxiety, he was making me wait and drawing out the whole thing, I
knew he was, but I knew there was nothing I could do about it.
Eventually
the words came at last, and I am not sure if the were dreaded or more
welcomed - Its time for your punishment, son. You know you need it
don't you son? I hated acknowledging he was right. He told me to come
over to him and he proceeded to hug me tightly and again pat my bottom
ever do gently. He told me that this was going to be the hardest spanking
of my life and that he was giving me it, because I both deserved it
and because be cared about me and loved me.
He let go of me, swatted
by butt and told me to go and shower and change into a clean pair
of boxers and to come back down wearing only the boxers and nothing
else. Well my whole body was shaking as I took that shower and my
mind was going at 100 miles an hour as I anticipated my fate as I
toweled off and slipped into a pair of my favorite white boxers.
I
returned downstairs, but not slowly, much more quickly as if I wanted
this - was I mad ? Well Dad was waiting for me, he was sitting in
his spanking chair, a straight backed chair, he used for such occasions.
I entered the room and he quietly told me to and collect my paddle.
I went to the kitchen and there it was hanging up for all to see -
my paddle and with my name on it too, my face flushed again as I took
it down from its place, and walked back with it to Dad.
I handed
it over to Dad, who smacked it against the palm of his hand a couple
of times, before reaching for my arm and guiding me over his knees.
He was in no hurry and took his time. I have been over dads lap before
and was no stranger to it being the platform that my spankings were
given on. I tried to make myself as comfortable as I could, but this
was different, Dad laid me further over his knees and I was hanging
right down, he made me put my elbows on the floor and I could feel
my feet rise up and off the floor. There now he said, just as a bad
little boy should be - over my knees, but well up and your legs free
to kick in the air.
I trembled, as I felt him slowly pull down
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