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a couple of months or a couple months??

Hello,

When someone says "a couple of months ago", it doesn't mean that it was two months ago but means some months ago. Is it correct?

Also, please tell me if we need to use "of" before "months" in that phrases. I am asking this because I saw in an email sent by a native English speaker he wrote "a couple months ago". I am not sure if it is a typo or it is idiomatic to just say " a couple months ago" without "of".

Thank you.

On Feb 22, 12:20 pm, rudky martin wrote:
> Hello,
>
> When someone says "a couple of months ago", it doesn't mean that it was two months ago but means some months ago. Is it correct?



> Also, please tell me if we need to use "of" before "months" in that phrases. I am asking this because I saw in an email sent by a native English speaker he wrote "a couple months ago". I am not sure if it is a typo or it is idiomatic to just say " a couple months ago" without "of".


On 02/22/13 02:20 pm, rudky martin wrote:

> When someone says "a couple of months ago", it doesn't mean that it was two months ago but means some months ago. Is it correct?



> Also, please tell me if we need to use "of" before "months" in that phrases. I am asking this because I saw in an email sent by a native English speaker he wrote "a couple months ago". I am not sure if it is a typo or it is idiomatic to just say " a couple months ago" without "of".


> > Also, please tell me if we need to use "of" before "months" in that
> > phrases. I am asking this because I saw in an email sent by a native

> The omission of "of" seems to be standard American English usage.


>
>On 22 Feb 2013 Jerry Friedman wrote:
>
>> On Feb 22, 12:20�pm, rudky martin wrote:
>

>>> phrases. I am asking this because I saw in an email sent by a native
>>> English speaker he wrote "a couple months ago". I am not sure if it is
>>> a typo or it is idiomatic to just say " a couple months ago" without
>>> "of".
>
>> Again, this is very common in America. I think it's pretty rare in
>> the rest of the English-speaking world.
>
>"A couple months" would strike a BrE speaker as being very American.


On Fri, 22 Feb 2013 14:55:51 -0500, Percival P. Cassidy wrote:
>
> The omission of "of" seems to be standard American English usage.


On Fri, 22 Feb 2013 14:08:07 -0600, Mark Brader wrote:
>
> Let's say it's common informal American usage. Using "a couple of" is
> already informal,


On 02/22/13 10:12 pm, Stan Brown wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Feb 2013 14:55:51 -0500, Percival P. Cassidy wrote:
>>
>> The omission of "of" seems to be standard American English usage.
>
> I don't agree. In my observation, "a couple months" is common in
> informal speech, but in writing it's "a couple of months".


On Fri, 22 Feb 2013 23:21:56 -0500, "Percival P. Cassidy"
wrote:

>On 02/22/13 10:12 pm, Stan Brown wrote:
>> On Fri, 22 Feb 2013 14:55:51 -0500, Percival P. Cassidy wrote:
>>>
>>> The omission of "of" seems to be standard American English usage.
>>
>> I don't agree. In my observation, "a couple months" is common in
>> informal speech, but in writing it's "a couple of months".
>
>I can't say in what contexts I've seen it written without the "of", but
>I've heard it often enough and have certainly seen it often enough that
>I've written it myself in informal communications, e.g., non-business
>e-mails -- but I often have to stop and think whether it's appropriate
>on any particular occasion. What I think often is, "Does including the
>'of' seem too pedantic or too British?"
>
>I also think sometimes, "What;s wrong with leaving out the 'of'? We
>don't say, 'I'll be there in a few of weeks' or 'I'd like a dozen of
>eggs'." But I have sometimes been accused of being too logical.
>


>In any case, in a formal communication I probably would write: "two or
>three..." or "a small number of...", depending on the context.
>
>Perce


> Stan Brown wrote:
>> Percival P. Cassidy wrote:

>>> The omission of "of" seems to be standard American English usage.

>> I don't agree. In my observation, "a couple months" is common in
>> informal speech, but in writing it's "a couple of months".



> I can't say in what contexts I've seen it written without the "of", but
> I've heard it often enough and have certainly seen it often enough that
> I've written it myself in informal communications, e.g., non-business
> e-mails -- but I often have to stop and think whether it's appropriate
> on any particular occasion. What I think often is, "Does including the
> 'of' seem too pedantic or too British?"

> I also think sometimes, "What;s wrong with leaving out the 'of'? We
> don't say, 'I'll be there in a few of weeks' or 'I'd like a dozen of
> eggs'." But I have sometimes been accused of being too logical.


On Sat, 23 Feb 2013 10:06:56 +0800, Robert Bannister
wrote:

> You are correct in assuming that "a couple of"
> could mean anything from 2 to 5.


On Sun, 24 Feb 2013 23:21:24 -0500, Joy Beeson
wrote:

>On Sat, 23 Feb 2013 10:06:56 +0800, Robert Bannister
> wrote:
>
>> You are correct in assuming that "a couple of"
>> could mean anything from 2 to 5.
>
>I express that as "more than one, probably less than three".
>
>Five is stretching it.


On 25/02/13 12:21 PM, Joy Beeson wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Feb 2013 10:06:56 +0800, Robert Bannister
> wrote:
>
>> You are correct in assuming that "a couple of"
>> could mean anything from 2 to 5.
>
> I express that as "more than one, probably less than three".
>
> Five is stretching it.
>


On Feb 25, 2:33 pm, Mike L wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Feb 2013 23:21:24 -0500, Joy Beeson
>

> wrote:
> >On Sat, 23 Feb 2013 10:06:56 +0800, Robert Bannister
> > wrote:
>
> >> You are correct in assuming that "a couple of"
> >> could mean anything from 2 to 5.
>
> >I express that as "more than one, probably less than three".
>
> >Five is stretching it.
>
> I've heard "a couple or three", which sounds sensible.

Evan Kirshenbaum wrote:
> Mike L writes:
>
>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2013 23:21:24 -0500, Joy Beeson
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 23 Feb 2013 10:06:56 +0800, Robert Bannister
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> You are correct in assuming that "a couple of"
>>>> could mean anything from 2 to 5.
>>> I express that as "more than one, probably less than three".
>>>
>>> Five is stretching it.
>> I've heard "a couple or three", which sounds sensible. You can get
>> tied up following leads like this. Confusingly, foxhounds come in
>> couples, while two trout, pheasant, etc constitute a brace. Three make
>> a leash.
>
> How about "a couple or two or three" from the Clancy Brothers' "Johnny
> McEldoo":
>
> There was Johnny McEldoo and McGee and me
> and a couple or two or three went on a spree one day.
>
> Common Irish?


On Mon, 25 Feb 2013 20:57:33 -0800, Evan Kirshenbaum
wrote:

>Mike L writes:
>
>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2013 23:21:24 -0500, Joy Beeson
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 23 Feb 2013 10:06:56 +0800, Robert Bannister
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> You are correct in assuming that "a couple of"
>>>> could mean anything from 2 to 5.
>>>
>>>I express that as "more than one, probably less than three".
>>>
>>>Five is stretching it.
>>
>> I've heard "a couple or three", which sounds sensible. You can get
>> tied up following leads like this. Confusingly, foxhounds come in
>> couples, while two trout, pheasant, etc constitute a brace. Three make
>> a leash.
>
>How about "a couple or two or three" from the Clancy Brothers' "Johnny
>McEldoo":
>
> There was Johnny McEldoo and McGee and me
> and a couple or two or three went on a spree one day.
>
>Common Irish?


>
>While Tommy Makem was with the Clancy Brothers for many of their
>albums, he was not a Clancy.


On Tue, 26 Feb 2013 02:00:31 -0500, Tony Cooper
wrote:

>While Tommy Makem was with the Clancy Brothers for many of their
>albums, he was not a Clancy.


On Tue, 26 Feb 2013 11:29:04 +0000, "Peter Duncanson [BrE]"
wrote:

>On Tue, 26 Feb 2013 02:00:31 -0500, Tony Cooper
> wrote:
>
>>While Tommy Makem was with the Clancy Brothers for many of their
>>albums, he was not a Clancy.
>
>When they were mentioned on TV and radio here in Northern Ireland they
>were always referred to as "The Clancy Brothers and Tommy Makem". Any
>mention of "The Clancy Brothers" would have implied that Tomy Makem was
>not with them.



> If you read all of the lyrics, the "red, white and blue" phrasing
> doesn't fit with the way the rest of the song lyrics go with words
> in each line rhyming with other words in the same line and usually
> with a third word somewhere in the next line.
>
> Mudcat Cafe, the better source for all folk music lyrics, gives the
> lines as:
>
> Johnny McEldoo turned as blue as the dew
> As a plate of Irish stew he soon put out of sight
>
> That line, at least, follows the pattern of the rest of song with
> rhyme within line:
>
> http://mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=6998
>
> Ah, here's verification of the "blue as a Jew":
> http://www.songlyrics.com/clancy-brothers/johnny-mac-adoo-lyrics/
>
> While Tommy Makem was with the Clancy Brothers for many of their
> albums, he was not a Clancy. I saw him in person a few times in his
> bar in NYC, and this was a trademark song for him, but I don't
> remember if he sang it or not when I was in the audience. Probably,
> though.

--


a couple of months or a couple months??

Hello,

When someone says "a couple of months ago", it doesn't mean that it was two months ago but means some months ago. Is it correct?

Also, please tell me if we need to use "of" before "months" in that phrases. I am asking this because I saw in an email sent by a native English speaker he wrote "a couple months ago". I am not sure if it is a typo or it is idiomatic to just say " a couple months ago" without "of".

Thank you.

On Feb 22, 12:20 pm, rudky martin wrote:
> Hello,
>
> When someone says "a couple of months ago", it doesn't mean that it was two months ago but means some months ago. Is it correct?



> Also, please tell me if we need to use "of" before "months" in that phrases. I am asking this because I saw in an email sent by a native English speaker he wrote "a couple months ago". I am not sure if it is a typo or it is idiomatic to just say " a couple months ago" without "of".


On 02/22/13 02:20 pm, rudky martin wrote:

> When someone says "a couple of months ago", it doesn't mean that it was two months ago but means some months ago. Is it correct?



> Also, please tell me if we need to use "of" before "months" in that phrases. I am asking this because I saw in an email sent by a native English speaker he wrote "a couple months ago". I am not sure if it is a typo or it is idiomatic to just say " a couple months ago" without "of".


> > Also, please tell me if we need to use "of" before "months" in that
> > phrases. I am asking this because I saw in an email sent by a native

> The omission of "of" seems to be standard American English usage.


>
>On 22 Feb 2013 Jerry Friedman wrote:
>
>> On Feb 22, 12:20�pm, rudky martin wrote:
>

>>> phrases. I am asking this because I saw in an email sent by a native
>>> English speaker he wrote "a couple months ago". I am not sure if it is
>>> a typo or it is idiomatic to just say " a couple months ago" without
>>> "of".
>
>> Again, this is very common in America. I think it's pretty rare in
>> the rest of the English-speaking world.
>
>"A couple months" would strike a BrE speaker as being very American.


On Fri, 22 Feb 2013 14:55:51 -0500, Percival P. Cassidy wrote:
>
> The omission of "of" seems to be standard American English usage.


On Fri, 22 Feb 2013 14:08:07 -0600, Mark Brader wrote:
>
> Let's say it's common informal American usage. Using "a couple of" is
> already informal,


On 02/22/13 10:12 pm, Stan Brown wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Feb 2013 14:55:51 -0500, Percival P. Cassidy wrote:
>>
>> The omission of "of" seems to be standard American English usage.
>
> I don't agree. In my observation, "a couple months" is common in
> informal speech, but in writing it's "a couple of months".


On Fri, 22 Feb 2013 23:21:56 -0500, "Percival P. Cassidy"
wrote:

>On 02/22/13 10:12 pm, Stan Brown wrote:
>> On Fri, 22 Feb 2013 14:55:51 -0500, Percival P. Cassidy wrote:
>>>
>>> The omission of "of" seems to be standard American English usage.
>>
>> I don't agree. In my observation, "a couple months" is common in
>> informal speech, but in writing it's "a couple of months".
>
>I can't say in what contexts I've seen it written without the "of", but
>I've heard it often enough and have certainly seen it often enough that
>I've written it myself in informal communications, e.g., non-business
>e-mails -- but I often have to stop and think whether it's appropriate
>on any particular occasion. What I think often is, "Does including the
>'of' seem too pedantic or too British?"
>
>I also think sometimes, "What;s wrong with leaving out the 'of'? We
>don't say, 'I'll be there in a few of weeks' or 'I'd like a dozen of
>eggs'." But I have sometimes been accused of being too logical.
>


>In any case, in a formal communication I probably would write: "two or
>three..." or "a small number of...", depending on the context.
>
>Perce


> Stan Brown wrote:
>> Percival P. Cassidy wrote:

>>> The omission of "of" seems to be standard American English usage.

>> I don't agree. In my observation, "a couple months" is common in
>> informal speech, but in writing it's "a couple of months".



> I can't say in what contexts I've seen it written without the "of", but
> I've heard it often enough and have certainly seen it often enough that
> I've written it myself in informal communications, e.g., non-business
> e-mails -- but I often have to stop and think whether it's appropriate
> on any particular occasion. What I think often is, "Does including the
> 'of' seem too pedantic or too British?"

> I also think sometimes, "What;s wrong with leaving out the 'of'? We
> don't say, 'I'll be there in a few of weeks' or 'I'd like a dozen of
> eggs'." But I have sometimes been accused of being too logical.


On Sat, 23 Feb 2013 10:06:56 +0800, Robert Bannister
wrote:

> You are correct in assuming that "a couple of"
> could mean anything from 2 to 5.


On Sun, 24 Feb 2013 23:21:24 -0500, Joy Beeson
wrote:

>On Sat, 23 Feb 2013 10:06:56 +0800, Robert Bannister
> wrote:
>
>> You are correct in assuming that "a couple of"
>> could mean anything from 2 to 5.
>
>I express that as "more than one, probably less than three".
>
>Five is stretching it.


On 25/02/13 12:21 PM, Joy Beeson wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Feb 2013 10:06:56 +0800, Robert Bannister
> wrote:
>
>> You are correct in assuming that "a couple of"
>> could mean anything from 2 to 5.
>
> I express that as "more than one, probably less than three".
>
> Five is stretching it.
>


On Feb 25, 2:33 pm, Mike L wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Feb 2013 23:21:24 -0500, Joy Beeson
>

> wrote:
> >On Sat, 23 Feb 2013 10:06:56 +0800, Robert Bannister
> > wrote:
>
> >> You are correct in assuming that "a couple of"
> >> could mean anything from 2 to 5.
>
> >I express that as "more than one, probably less than three".
>
> >Five is stretching it.
>
> I've heard "a couple or three", which sounds sensible.

Evan Kirshenbaum wrote:
> Mike L writes:
>
>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2013 23:21:24 -0500, Joy Beeson
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 23 Feb 2013 10:06:56 +0800, Robert Bannister
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> You are correct in assuming that "a couple of"
>>>> could mean anything from 2 to 5.
>>> I express that as "more than one, probably less than three".
>>>
>>> Five is stretching it.
>> I've heard "a couple or three", which sounds sensible. You can get
>> tied up following leads like this. Confusingly, foxhounds come in
>> couples, while two trout, pheasant, etc constitute a brace. Three make
>> a leash.
>
> How about "a couple or two or three" from the Clancy Brothers' "Johnny
> McEldoo":
>
> There was Johnny McEldoo and McGee and me
> and a couple or two or three went on a spree one day.
>
> Common Irish?


On Mon, 25 Feb 2013 20:57:33 -0800, Evan Kirshenbaum
wrote:

>Mike L writes:
>
>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2013 23:21:24 -0500, Joy Beeson
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 23 Feb 2013 10:06:56 +0800, Robert Bannister
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> You are correct in assuming that "a couple of"
>>>> could mean anything from 2 to 5.
>>>
>>>I express that as "more than one, probably less than three".
>>>
>>>Five is stretching it.
>>
>> I've heard "a couple or three", which sounds sensible. You can get
>> tied up following leads like this. Confusingly, foxhounds come in
>> couples, while two trout, pheasant, etc constitute a brace. Three make
>> a leash.
>
>How about "a couple or two or three" from the Clancy Brothers' "Johnny
>McEldoo":
>
> There was Johnny McEldoo and McGee and me
> and a couple or two or three went on a spree one day.
>
>Common Irish?


>
>While Tommy Makem was with the Clancy Brothers for many of their
>albums, he was not a Clancy.


On Tue, 26 Feb 2013 02:00:31 -0500, Tony Cooper
wrote:

>While Tommy Makem was with the Clancy Brothers for many of their
>albums, he was not a Clancy.


On Tue, 26 Feb 2013 11:29:04 +0000, "Peter Duncanson [BrE]"
wrote:

>On Tue, 26 Feb 2013 02:00:31 -0500, Tony Cooper
> wrote:
>
>>While Tommy Makem was with the Clancy Brothers for many of their
>>albums, he was not a Clancy.
>
>When they were mentioned on TV and radio here in Northern Ireland they
>were always referred to as "The Clancy Brothers and Tommy Makem". Any
>mention of "The Clancy Brothers" would have implied that Tomy Makem was
>not with them.



> If you read all of the lyrics, the "red, white and blue" phrasing
> doesn't fit with the way the rest of the song lyrics go with words
> in each line rhyming with other words in the same line and usually
> with a third word somewhere in the next line.
>
> Mudcat Cafe, the better source for all folk music lyrics, gives the
> lines as:
>
> Johnny McEldoo turned as blue as the dew
> As a plate of Irish stew he soon put out of sight
>
> That line, at least, follows the pattern of the rest of so
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