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This will be a thread for FAQ. I wil update this thread from time to time
For now, I post the FAQ for the English version of COM3D2
*Note: Most the answers have already validated since COM3D2 debut .
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γMODγ
Q1.will COM3D2 get the same MOD support with CM3D2?
βA1.Regarding MOD, we are planning the same standards as the current one in Japan(current situation of CM3D2).
The point is, we are afraid about it is impossible to ensure the performance because MOD is not made by us and not controlled by us.
We do consider about those problems, however, for solving problems, it would be necessary to ask the people who making MOD in case we need advanced help.
MOD is never removed by the basic idea of KISS as with CM3D2. To be honest, we have no idea what kind of problems (related to MOD) is going to be happened on the system of new game after launched. We will do our best to solve matters when something happens.*
*Note: As of now, most CM3D2 mods can be use in COM3D2, but some will require supporting plugin for them to work.
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γCM3D2 and already sold packagesγ
Q1.Will CM3D2 get English translation too?
βA1.Regarding to international version, as we have some problems about using voice actor overseas * and huge amount of voices, only COM3D2 are going be translated at the moment.
*Note: they meant using the Japanese VA in the overseas market, not using English VA.
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γCompatibilityγ
Q1.CM3D2 compatibility with COM3D2. Will this compatibility will work like two of your products, Make Me Lover and Make Me Lover Darkness or it will be like Empire Defender/Empire Fighter(the April Fool mini games) with CM3D2?
And will all 7 personalities from CM3D2 will be brought to COM3D2?
βA1.Regarding to compatibility between CM3D2 and COM3D2, we are now considering. At the moment, we are planning βvisual partsβ of CM3D2 will have compatibility with COM3D2.
In the latest situation, costume configuration of COM3D2 can use at CM3D2.
For other elements, I think that you can think that COM3D2 has backward compatibility.
Also, regarding to international version, we are currently considering releasing from COM3D2 and CM3D2 is yet at the moment.
So we don't have to set compatibility of CM3D2 itself and CM3D2's character pack.
And besides the above problem, if we simply release from CM3D2, there is possibility to have problem like that we can not deliver the latest version to overseas .
Due to the nature of the content(on the work that is a 3D work and enjoying the latest technology),
we feel that If we release old work first, the value is inevitably low since the technical side has become old one.
It is because CM3D2 is less function compared to COM3D2.
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γVoiceγ
Q1.Is there a plan for english voice in COM3D2?
βA1.In COM3D2 english ver, translation are under consideration as subtitles at the moment.
I'm sorry but using voice actor overseas is not planned because huge amount of voices.
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γHow to buyγ
Q1.Are you planning to allow foreign purchase via download?
βA1.About COM3D2 english ver, the project for foreigners to purchase via download are under consideration.
Sales of the package is not easy and no plan about it since no store and sales channels oversea not like Japan. *
*Note: As of January 2019, currently KISS has chosen Nutaku, Steam and thier own official website for distribution.
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γMosaicγ
Q1.Do you have in mind making the censored genitals? Do you plan adding something like "functional" genitals patch or remove censorship?
βA1.About COM3D2 english ver, adult patch are under consideration. Also removing censorship will be considered.
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γCharacter requestγ
Q1.Can I request about new character?
βA1.We can accept requests about costume and charactor if you have any ideas.
However, you may know the charactors you told us as example are probably not allowed to be shown in adult games.
Your ideas about IP(Intellectual property) charactor and costumes are considered as inspirations. We have a plan to make a survey of charactor and costume near future.
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γSpecification of COM3D2γ
Q1.About Guest Mode, since you can play as protagonist, does that mean this will be used to improve the relationship between Maid and Master? Does this also mean that the scene before ε€δΌ½ will be remove completely in COM3D2?
βA1.In New function"Guest mode" is the mode that you can play ADV style, and you can come to Empire club as a customer.
You can also choose "Master" as a player. When you play ε
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Choosing player charactor as a customer is possible too.
It is also possible for player to go to Brothel(= Empire club) as "customer".
No relation between the scene before ε€δΌ½ and Guest mode.
COM3D2 has the scene before ε€δΌ½.
Q2.Does collaboration character appear in international version?
βA2.Regarding to visual parts(download costume, hairstyle etc) in collaboration with other game(mainly eroge or visual novel),
we can release overseas if it is possible to take permission from the licenser of the game and to pass the compliance criteria in abroad.
For the scenario type collaboration, if the character of CM3D2 comes out,
it will be the above problems and the release is not scheduled.
Q3.Will the international version and the Japanese version have the same contents?
βA3.Since the international version of CM3D2 is not scheduled to be released, COM3D2 is not same content with the Japanese version.
Regarding various packages and DLC etc, we are scheduling from COM3D2 at the present since CM3D2 have problem in terms of localization.
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γRequestγ
Q1.Please consider adding a Master Customization. The customization options does not have to be as vast as to Maid Customization. Just give us an option to choose 1 or 2 outfits and 1-3 types of faces for the Master. The modders can add some more options as long as they can have a file to mod for Master customization.
βA1.Thank you for your request. We will consider additional proposal for a model not a master's silhouette.
Q2.Add cooking mini game? I would love to see that.
βA2.I'm sorry but there are no cooking mini game included at the moment. But we are going to use your request as an reference.
Q3.Give more function and roles for "ε°ε±γ‘γ€γ" (Personal Maids) and "γγͺγΌγ‘γ€γ" (Free Maid). Currently these two are nothing but tittles and don't really play a significant role in gameplay. So, maybe you can put on some special stats or something for that.
βA3.Thanks for the request.
In COM3D2, there are Yotogi class for personal maid or free maid and also there are some restrictions for the facility arrangement.
If you have any specific request, feel free to contact us anytime again. We will consider it.
Q4.Add gravity manipulator for the skirt and the hair in the in-game photography mode. If possible, add some keys to the hair model and the skirt model so we can move the hair to whatever we like.
On most default poses, the hair and skirts penetrates the body and it's not pleasant to the eyes of the customers especially when doing screenshot poses.
βA4.I accepted it as a request here. I will do a meeting with a programmer and I will consider it positively. *
*Note: KISS has already implemented the Gravity Manipulator feature in Studio Mode.
Q5.More harem/MFF skills and yuri/lesbian skills. We've been getting a lot of group-oriented sex skills, swapping-oriented sex skills, BDSM-oriented sex skill and so on. Perhaps it might be better to add more skill to Harem and Yuri category?
βA5.Requests such asHarlem, 2 women and 1 main character were received.
When we producing multiple Yotogi skills, since the production man-hour is so much, I can not answer about when we take that. But I would like to increase such thingss positively.
Q6.Is it possible to make a male butler to enjoy like a maid?
βA6.Our game canβt make male butlers at the moment.
And some Japanese female user are asking us about it like you.
At first, we are planing to manage to release international version. And in same time, weβd like to userβs voice and consider about male butlers as well.
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γOthersγ
Q1.When I go to Japan, is it possible to visit KISS headquarters ?
βA1.If the timing is right, we can consider to meet you. In that case, please contact us in advance.
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γExtra Stuffγ
Q; I heard the the game will be release by Nutaku. Is Nutaku in charge of the localization?
A: No. While Nutaku is a publishing company that also provides translations, similar to MangaGamer and Sekai Project, they are not in charge of the publication and localization of the game. They are just distributors.
Also, apparently Nutaku not going to do any more localization.
Q; Why the censorship on the genitals?
A: Watch the video below
Q; Aren't Custom Cast basically COM3D2?
A: No. It's not "basically" COM3D2, no matter how you look at. It's just a Vtuber tool using resources that can found in COM3D2.
VKatsu is pretty much the same thing. It is based on Koikatsu but It's just a Vtuber tool using resources that can found in Koikatsu.
Q; Can we have the costumes from Custom Cast in COM3D2?
A: Because it's not an eroge, so.... NO .
Though, recently since the last Nicotama, people ask the same thing and KISS's answer is that they need to have consultation with Custom Cast Inc. But event if it can be imported, only costumes that have intellectual property or copyrighted materials will not be imported.
So,
if it's the male part => maybe yes
If it's collab costume or costume that has Custom Cast Inc.'s copyright => no.
Q: Can we link JP CM3D2 to the ENG COM3D2?
A: As of now, you can't.
While some code expert (AKA Hackers) will look for a way to make this possible, how possible it is will depend on how KISS configure it. So, while you can see the changes made in the game's code and see the chance of flipping the switch to somehow enable it, this doesn't mean that it will work properly.
If you insist, you can go on with your own risk, but honestly, you would be better off buying the Japanese version of COM3D2 instead.
Gameplay Question
Q: Why I can't use Master's SM Room & Soapland in Schedule?
A: They are not meant for working as facilities for customers. Those are private rooms. Do note that build those facilities gives you access to use it in Adult Service, no more than that.
Q: I see some new sex skill in the H-event. Why can't KISS give us that in Adult Service?
A: KISS doesn't simply add new sex skills as easy as saying ABC...
While KISS can copy some animation and voice files,
1. They STILL need to come up with the new lines for the every 25 Excitement value threshold, now that the horny state is included, it means double the work.
2. They STILL need to figure out the name for the skill and the voice line to keep up within the theme of that skill. They also have to think on which category they need to put and what skill actions they need to put in those skills that is relevant to them. Add to that is the time constraint, which isn't helping them either...
3. KISS use the new skill because they need it to make the story progression for the H-event. And in H-event, you DON'T need to come up with the skill name and user are not required to interact.
Q: Why can't KISS implement the half-undressing feature like a certain games or certain plugins did?
A: Someone ask to implement that feature, and their responses is "that's a bit difficult to do".
For that to work, KISS will have to design a separate model with half-undressing part and then have to make it swap with the actual costumes on the go.
even if KISS manage to create such system, there's just too many costume (we have like 200+ costumes now) that they need to fix to make it compatible with the feature in so little time. Add to that, you can't really make the current mod costume work with it either.
Q: Unique Maids?
A: They are user-suggested maids who had won the top three for Block A and Block B for the "Strongest Maid I ever had" competition. They work like rental maids but instead of being rented, they wil be come your permanent worker once you beat them.
These maids also have two version of their respective looks. The game will run on of those looks for these unique maid, depending if you turn on the third option at the start of the game.
Q: Extra Maids?
A: They are facility maids that help you to run facilities for you. They do not have sex scene nor supervision event like Rental/Unique maids does.
However, some of them had appear in some scenes, so you will need to hire them if you want to get the scenes.
Q: Extra Maids are useless. Can I get rid of them?
A: At the moment, no, but KISS is currently working on a solution so you can safely dismiss them.
However, do keep in mind that deleting these maids WILL NOT IMPROVE THE PERFORMANCE OF THE GAME AND IT WILL NOT HELP YOU TO REDUCE THE SIZE OF THE GAME FILE EITHER . If you have to get rid of them, it just you can't stand the clutter.
Q: Which one should I use? Studio Mode or Multiple Maid plugin
A: It depends. Honestly, if you are a casual player, Studio Mode is sufficient enough but if you are into professional screenshooter, Multiple Maid plugin might be for you, although I still see people able to create great screenshot with Studio Mode with other plugins.
Q: What would happen to Free Maid when NTR block is on?
A: NTR block just block you from NTR content so your fragile heart wouldn't burst and died when you see one.
Your Free Maid STILL work like how they used to (having sex with customer, serve customer, etc.), NTR block just prevent you from see them doing that.
Q: Aren't Swapping NTR?
A: Yes, Swapping is an element in NTR. If you seen a game that feature swapping that collaborate with KISS before, you should know that by now.
Q: Why are there so little harem skills and why does there's only 2F1M type of skills?
A: Again, it's because CM3D2 is 3 years old and COM3D2 has been out for months now, of course you wouldn't expect the newer game will get as much content as it's predecessor.
Also, putting in harem skills has a lot of factors that you need to consider.
1. The minimum and recommended specs => Yes, the recommended specs plays an important role to decide how much maid can you put in one scene, and currently it's enough to put up to 3 without dropping too much fps.
2. Idea and Time => KISS need to know that there's a need for 3F1M harem skills, and also they need to find time to develop it. Also, just because it is easier to make doesn't mean they can just finish it quickly, that means that they could just delay it until there's a need for that.
3. The theme and maid focus of the game => CM3D series were not design to focus on harem theme, so that's why there's so little focus and effort on harem skills. If this was like Harem Mate from Illusion, that would be a different story.
This is why I keep telling people to just talk to KISS if you really want 3F1M harem so bad. There's no point to just go to a forum or a VOIP application and then complain about it. Complain is nice and all, but you might as well just complain that to the game developer instead, so, you don't have to waste your voice or your energy to type stuff using keyboard just to vent out of your frustration.
Q: Why are dances taking so long to be transferred.
A: Putting just the animation and music is sure easy, but you need to be reminded that KISS also need to put the map for the Rhythm Action, calibrated the maid's position.
Creating a map for Rhythm Action is not easy, and KISS has a very busy schedule anyways. Hence why it took so long.
MOD
Q: I see someone offer a new plugin loader called BepInEX. Is it any better than Sybaris 2.x?
No, while BepInEX is future-proof and "smaller DLL in size"(in which it doesn't really give any performance degradation on COM3D2 and PC), it's no different than Sybaris 2.x and BepInEX doesn't perform any better that Sybaris 2.x anyways.
So, BepInEX would be more useful in future games but not COM3D2 as of now.
You can use it if you are that extremely concern about the Sybaris2.x's DLL size, need a more detailed debugging tool and/or just for future-proofing sake, but you'll have to read the readme for installation, updates and switching to it. IMO Sybaris is easier to install compare to BepInEX. Someone wouldn't make a program to move everything if it was that easy anyways...
Q: Why do the Japanese Modders riled up whenever someone upload CM3D2/COM3D2 mods that has strong resemblance to an original author's work.
A: It's because , in Japan's ethics, they consider that as plagiarism and a copyright infringement (usually the former), no matter what's your intention. While it's fine to reuse the materials from an original work, you should recreate the material from the start, instead of just use what is available.
In simple terms, if you are studying programming in a school/university, while tutors teach you the same set of code, if you just copy and paste from another person, it's consider plagiarism. But if you just write it and make changes on some codes without affecting it's main purpose, it should be okay, That's how this situation came to be.
The only good way to do deal with this is to just not post this in public if you make mods that is reusing textures and models from another original author's work.
*What about very old games like 3DCG? Why we can't port it?
It still applies even if it's a very old game. If you really want the freedom to port it you would have to wait for 70 years after that mod being published (according to Japanese Copyright Law. Yes, even modders for a game can sue you thanks to that) for that mod to become "free-to-use".
People's Rant
Q: I bought the CM3D2 & COM3D2 W Pack but I find two set of two disc instead of just everything in two disc, why is that?
A: Because all W packs are bundles, not all-in-one. "W pack" stands for "double pack".
Q: The game is getting repetitive and boring.
A: Every game in the world are repetitive and boring. This is why most games are just a one time thing. What do you really expect?
Sure, you could argue that a certain game doesn't feel that way, but it's because you are attracted to it's feature. For example, in an MMORPG, you having fun because of the cosmetics you saw and you get to play with other people in the world, but beyond that it's just another repetitive and boring game.
Q: Why KISS's code is messy? I can do a better job at this.
A: Sure, if you think you can do a better job, get a working visa from Japanese government and
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