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Last updated at 00:00 21 February 2004
CARRIE FISHER is tiny, with sleek blonde hair, huge brown eyes and shapely legs. However, she's undeniably tubbier at 47 than when she was luscious Princess Leia in Star Wars.
She sits in an armchair in her Savoy suite with her legs curled up like a child, in such a short skirt that she reveals her stocking tops. Her mother is old-time movie star Debbie Reynolds and her father Hollywood singer Eddie Fisher.
When Carrie was 18 months old and her brother Todd was a baby, Eddie walked out on Debbie and his children. He left them for Elizabeth Taylor, whose husband Mike Todd had just died in a plane crash.
Debbie was Liz's best friend and it was the movie scandal of the decade.
Later, the predatory Miss Taylor dumped a heartbroken Eddie for Richard Burton.
Since then, there has been a non- stop procession of women in his life, including marriage to the late singer Connie Stevens.
'Last time I knew,' says Carrie 'he was sleeping with a yoga teacher 20 years younger than him, but it could be somebody else by now. They change all the time.
'He's had four face lifts and the hair is dyed but he's very charming. It's not like you look at him and think, "How the hell did he get all those ladies?" ' Carrie has now written a heartbreakingly funny, corrosive, blazingly honest novel, The Best Awful. 'I am not,' she says, 'going to be coy and pretend it isn't autobiographical.' It's based on her mental breakdown after the end of her relationship with entertainment agent Bryan Lourd. They shared a house, had a daughter Billie together in 1992, and then he left her for a man.
'I suppose you're Billie's stepmother,' Carrie quipped when she met Bryan's lover.
She says that, undoubtedly, Billie is the grown up in the family.
'My daughter is exceptional, she's more stable than my mother or me. She also has the luxury of knowing that both her parents love her and that they get along, which I didn't have.
'One day she told me she wanted to be a comic when she grew up. I said: "You have plenty of material. Your father's gay, your mother is a drug addict and manic depressive, your grandmother tap-dances for a living and your grandfather took speed.' Luckily, Billie laughed, though she finds her grandparents so embarrassing she didn't tell her mother when there was a grandparents' day at her school.
'My mother hasn't lost her mind,' says Carrie, 'but she's so eccentric you wouldn't notice if she had. And when you're 12, you don't like your grandmother turning up in heavy makeup and a wig.
'Billie loves my mother but she doesn't want her at school. Everybody else has a grey-haired grandmother who knits and doesn't suddenly start tap-dancing.
'My mother asked Billie to call her Abba Dabba, after her hit song Abba Dabba Honeymoon, instead of grandma. It's a bit like me wanting to be called Star Wars.
'My dad did show up at Billie's school once and she literally panicked.
My daughter hasn't met Eddie a lot, but you know within minutes that he's a crash course in trouble.
'He wore beige slacks, a bright green shirt, gold chains round his neck, tinted movie star glasses and blue shoes. His hair is very black and curled and when he greets you, he does it in song.' Eddie also used drugs and Carrie was addicted to uppers and downers for a long time. Six years ago she became so dependent that she was driven to the edge of madness.
SHE uses jokes to deflect pain because it's her way of coping with life. She can even turn two weeks locked up in a secure mental unit into a funny story.
'When I lost my mind I was awake for six days. In the hospital they put me on controlled substances, so after a year I had to go back to rehab. Now I'm OK, I'm about as safe as I can be, which is to say not entirely.' Carrie still takes about a dozen daily pills to counteract depression, which she developed after a bizarre childhood. She had her first photo- call when she was two hours old.
She was always being told to 'Smile, baby' and by 15 had her own psychiatrist. She was surrounded by servants and watched television to discover what people did in the real world. 'I often ask myself: "Is my life crazy or am I crazy?" ' When Carrie was nine, her mother married wealthy shoe company executive Harry Karl. They lived in a mansion which felt like a mausoleum, but never home. It was so unreal that some of the furniture was still covered in plastic.
'It was big and cold, and then Harry lost all his money. He had huge debts, but instead of going bankrupt he used up all my mother's hard-earned funds.
'She had $7 million in the bank from her whole career, which was a lot of money in those days. He was an alcoholic and he took everything.
'He told my mother he was impotent, but his barber brought hookers to the house, pretending to be manicurists, to have sex with him.
'My mother told me this when I was 13. My adolescence, which was already intense, got tangled up in her midlife crisis, so we yelled at each other all the time.
'She was drinking because her marriage was falling apart, she was very unhappy, life was chaotic, and in those days there wasn't any rehab.
She's not an alcoholic but, just for a while, the world got too much for her to bear.' In her late 30s, Debbie went back on the road doing cabaret, often in seedy hotels, with her two children as part of her act. At 17, Carrie dropped out of high school, became a chorus girl and made her movie debut with Warren Beatty in Shampoo.
She went to drama school in London for a brief spell of normality and then did Star Wars. She married musician Paul Simon and wore the garter her mother had worn at her wedding to Eddie Fisher, which wasn't a good omen. The marriage broke up after a tumultuous, acrimonious year and Carrie went into rehab.
AFTERWARDS, she used her experiences with psychoanalysts and drug clinics in Los Angeles to write her searingly autobiographical novel, Postcards From The Edge. She and Paul divorced in 1985, though years later he said that he was still in love with her.
Her relationship with her mother was traumatic for a long time, but now she respects her as a tough survivor who will always pin a dazzling smile to her face and perform till she drops.
Debbie, of course, looks exactly what she is, which is a once-famous film star who has fought for 40 years to keep her looks and coquettish, girlish charm.
'She lives next door to me in Los Angeles and we share a driveway. If your eyes light on anything in her living room she'll say: "Oh, do you want that?
I'll just put a sticker on the bottom so you can have it when I die."' There's a lot of death talk, but she's still beautiful, still working. She looks better than the other women in her age group, Shirley MacLaine or Elizabeth Taylor.
Carrie once told Elizabeth that because of her, she rarely saw her father when she was young. 'You didn't miss much,' said the movie star.
Carrie adored Eddie when she was young but later he betrayed her. He wrote his autobiography when his famous days were over because he wanted to recapture the headlines. He described Debbie Reynolds as a phoney who pretended to be sugary, but was obsessively vain, hooked on fame and frigid.
'My father was horrendous to my mother in his book. He was vile and he did it for attention, to hurt other people. She was a virgin when they married and he talked about her body and said the sex between them wasn't good.
'It was really beyond belief. When I heard that he was also going to suggest she was gay, which she certainly wasn't, I called him and, at first, he denied it.
'I went round to ask him not to do it and burst into tears which I rarely do.
He promised he wouldn't, but then he did, to sell the book. He's so charming, such fun you want to be with him, but he always lets you down and I can still fall for it.
'He called to say he was coming over for the weekend and I was stupid enough to believe him. I wouldn't have believed him when I was three years old.
'You can never hate him because he's like a little boy. I'd say he's got attention deficit disorder. When you're in the room with him he thinks you're the most beautiful, intelligent most amazing person he's ever had the good fortune to be related to.
'He can then walk through the door,see a jacket he likes and he forgets you exist.
'I've gotten quite close to his two daughters by Connie Stevens and they hardly saw him either. But he never paid any attention at all to my brother.
'Eddie doesn't do boy talk. When the girls got older he'd take us out because we could be mistaken for his date. Eddie is not a daddy guy, he's a date man. Oh, he's unbelievable. His life has been about dope, excess and lack of responsibility.' Hollywood isn't real life and Carrie had a showbusiness upbringing where appearance was everything, and her parents thought presents were an adequate substitute for love.
Inevitably, it left her searching for security, and when she met Bryan Lourd she believed she'd found it.
He could always calm her and make her feel safe. He's still the first person she calls in a crisis.
'He's my emergency contact number. I really did love him.
I thought: "This is a man who will take care of me and be a wonderful father", and I wasn't completely wrong.' He still does take care of her and in her suite there are longstemmed red roses with a note saying: 'From Bryan with love'.
She's dedicated the book to him and Billie and told him that she'd take out anything he didn't like.
However, he read it and didn't change a word.
'When we started living together I didn't know he was gay, though, when I look back, the signs were there. But at 13 I was working in nightclubs with gay chorus boys.
All my early crushes were on gay men, my first kiss was from a gay man. So falling in love with Bryan wasn't completely outside my weird repertoire.
HE SHOULD have told me, but he wanted a child and so did I, and he thought he'd be able to change. He lied out of fear, he wanted to be heterosexual.
'Billie said to me once: "What is gay?" I couldn't think of anything that would satisfy a child, so I just answered in an emotional way. I said: "It's when two men love each other and they kiss."
I said: "Yes, but gay men kiss like people in the movies kiss."
'When she asked her father he said: "It's when two men call each other Baby."' After Bryan left, Carrie battled on, trying to cling to sanity and self-esteem. She had a one-night stand with a famous Hollywood stud, renowned for his libido and sexual appetite.
Her book, which will make you laugh even as you cry, is filled with real life, fornicating, drug-addicted monsters to whom she gives pseudonyms.
However, she says that sex has never been her drug.
'I'm more of a mind f***. My line to men used to be: "You should have sex with somebody else and the cigarette with me". But I'm in trouble now because I quit smoking.
'I once said to my first husband: "I'd put up with sex for good conversation." Paul said: "I'd put up with conversation for good sex."
My fantasy playmate is an English college professor.' She would love to live in England but Bryan's career is in Los Angeles and she'd never take Billie away from her father. 'The people in his family are normal and serene.
Billie feels happy and safe with them.
'It's a very unassuming, undemanding world and I understand, because there was a time when I was embarrassed by my parents.' Hopefully, one day, Billie will come to appreciate her crazy, beguilingly dreadful, maternal grandparents.
Certainly, they seem a lot more fun than grey-haired knitters - and there's one hopeful sign.
When Carrie told her beautiful daughter that the new book might be made into a film, Billie said: 'I want to play me.' THE Best Awful by Carrie Fisher is published by Simon and Schuster at Pounds 14.99.
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There were rumors surrounding both of them for years. Debbie and Agnes Moorehead. Carrie and Penny Marshall. If Debbie had really been in love with Eddie Fisher and Esleaseabeth Taylor had truly lured him away, Debbie would have never become friends with Liz again. And I never got the feeling that Carrie was all that hetero. Yeah, she was crowing about her affair with Hans Solo. But marrying Paul Simon, that's pretty much marrying a woman. And we can't forget that decades-long "friendship" with Penny Marshall. Does anyone think she's straight. I hope Meathead doesn't!
That is none of your business disgusting asshole.
Um .... why? This is a gossip site, isn't it? Ellen.
Very few closeted lesbians ever give up their cover. As women they can present any form of sexuality and make it appear real when in fact it may not be. In this case we are discussing extremely talented and incredibly smart women. We will never know the answer to your question unless one of them has an unpublished true story to be released to public at some determined time in future.
Or brother Todd. Or Penny. Or whoever you are. It's time this is talked about. It was being hidden for years and years. Carrie had not problem outing her husband and other people. But she was never willing to out her mother ... or herself. Or Paul Simon, who I always wondered about. Anyone who says that gay people wanting to know if other people are "disgusting assholes" are part of the problem. Why is someone a "disgusting asshole" for wanting to know the truth after all of these years?
Carrie Was too smart and too witty to have been straight.
Hey R3: Carrie Fisher wanted to talk so much about having an affair with Harrison Ford that she couldn't bear it. She couldn't wait until he was dead, so she went ahead and published it as part of her latest book. She didn't have any shame. Why should we pussyfoot around her sexuality? The fact that she only publicized the hetero part of her life is very troubling. Especially for a woman who as all about "the truth."
Didn't Carrie and Penny have an annual star-studded birthday party every year?
Meh. Unlucky in love and in Carrie's case not an easy person to be married to either. It's quite common for women to think lesbianism is an option after divorce or a breakup. Of course most imagine a girlfriend who they can shop and cry and brunch with. Maybe cuddle. Once they realize there's sex involved they back out fast. I'm sure after their disastrous relationships they often said if only we were lesbians. Carrie in particular may have even dipped her toe. But they both seemed like straight girls with reasonable explanations for their singleness. Carrie was batshit crazy and Debbie was trying to find a partner in an era where men were not interested in being a husband to a successful woman. And those who were had an agenda.
Do you all buy the Harisson affair? Or that she wrote those diaries at 19 and "found them" last year? She denied hitting the sheets with HF numerous times in the past. Seemed like a publicity gimmick to me to move books.
Growing up when and where she did Debbie would have been expected to show little signs of sexuality, not be too interested in boys, be submissive. In that era most lesbian women were married with kids and not liking sex or desiring your husband was normal. In the 70s some of those gals put 2 and 2 together finally and came out. Debbie's husbands 2 and 3 were ugly and old so she wasn't marrying to set the sheets on fire. Maybe lesbianism or maybe a victim of her time. Gay or straight Carrie in her prime would have been too much for anybody to deal with. In her later years she seemed fun and mellow and much better relationship material.
R8, I'm not disagreeing at all. I was a big fan of Carrie. I saw her show "Wishful Drinking" off-Broadway. I bought most of her books (with the exception of the book about her grandma molesting her). That was a novel, by the way. One shouldn't write fiction about being molested by a grandparent..
This is all to say that I was a fan. A big one. I didn't care about Star Wars at all. That was for nerds. I thought she became in her when she started writing. And I thought she was great. She was smart and didn't put up with anyone's shit. I thought she was great. Only second to Fran Lebowitz. God bless.
I often thought that in rehab she put have heard almost every person say they were molested or abused and that's where the inspiration came from.
Why was Liz Taylor given such a pass through through her life? I'm not connected with either party at all, but every
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