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The problem with making a comparison is that my memory is selective. As time goes on it erases the bad bits leaving a nostalgic glow. Was the GR 10 , which I walked first, really that sublime? I want to start by eliminating the shared features. So which route did I like best? The Pyrenean Way GR10 is still in first place. What do you think? See comments below. Hi a friend and I are wanting to just do a few days maybe 4 hiking the gr 10 or 11 and preferably sleeping in huts but open to hostels and trying to figure out best area for that. Myself and a friend are hoping to do 4 days of fast packing along one of these routes. We are both ultra distance trail runners, interested in technical terrain loved the GR20 northern section and can cover a good amount of ground per day. We can happily carry our own tent or stay in refuges and have both decent experience in the mountains. Is there a section you would recommend? Our major constraint is access to the route from public transport. Any advice would be gratefully received. I would expect we will be doing this trip in September. Access is easier via France. If you are going before mid July you may need crampons and ice axe for certain sections Bayssellance or Wallon-Respomuso. See comments on snow conditions in the Pyrenees my other site. I hop this helps. Hi Steve, thank you for a very practical guide to all three routes. Could you recommend a possibility to join some of the routes in Andorra region for day trip ending on public transport with possibility to go back to Andorra or Barcelona? We are experience walkers but will be heavy with a tent and rations. Thanks a million. With a tent you could split up some of the longer days. Hi Steve! Brilliant comparison, very to the point. I want to hike any of the 3 trails, but due to work, I only got time in November. I also want to do it light weight and without a tent, like you. Is there any chance in your mind? Most hostels are shut and it will certainly snow at some point. Unless you are super fit and experienced at mountain running you will need more than 30 days. On the other hand, if you just want to sample the mountains for a couple of weeks, start at the Mediterranean and work inland. Check out which hostels leave basic accommodation open in winter and also the numerous huts. Your websites are really helpful. Can you recommend a section of the HRP or maybe a particularly good bit of the GR11 for days trekking? My brother and I are travelling to northern Spain in the first week of October and were hoping to spend a few days in the mountains. We both have lots of experience in the Rockies etc. Isolated hostels are better than nights spent in town. At that time of year there will be accommodation in Nuria and the Ulldeter hostel is open at weekends. So you can go from Nuria to Ulldeter on the ridge and back via the Coma de Vaca hostel , also open weekends only. Or cross over to France and stay at excellent Cal Pai in Eyne coming back up the Eyne valley but then cutting across east to Nou Creus before descending to Nuria again. I am interested in doing a bit of one of the three trails, I only have 4 days off and am coming from Ireland. Do you have any recommendations for a shorter trip accessible by public transportation? Thank you! Hi Christine It depends when you are coming. To shorten it you should be able to get back to Toulouse from Luz St Sauveur. I have a question. I was in Dolomites, Tirol and Mont Blanc. Each time no more than a week of hiking. What is your recommendation up to 7 days with return back by some public transport or taxi. GR 10 or GR Do you help me with some advice. Thank you very much. You could combine some of these Pyrenees cross-frontier walks , or even better walk the Senda de Camille , the Muntanyas de Libertat or the Porta del Cel. See this page for trailheads on the GR10 and GR A truly fantastic resource and insight! My easiest access is to the east of these trails Andorra I can fly into directly. Having about days what stages would you recommend of the GR11 to see the best possible of the pyrenees? Many thanks for all your help! Go west from Andorra. Note that this is only feasible July to October. From Conangles you should be able to find a bus to Barcelona airport. Thanks so much for such a detailed comparison! We are three friends who fell in love with long-day trails last year. We did Tour de Montblanc and now looking for a new route. We have days in June or July. What would you recommend? And may be you know some circle routes not far from Bilbao? Thank you for this useful information. I am not planning to carry a tent. Generally, facilities in unstaffed huts are better in Spain than France, so if you have a choice plan to spend more time in Spain than France I calculate I crossed the border 28 times! Hi Steve, thanks for your time and effort documenting the trails of the Pyrenees. I was hoping you could provide some advice for an upcoming trip. We are experienced back country hikers and live in the Sierra Nevada of California. As such, we would like to experience the mountains, beautiful scenery and mountain towns of the region. Based on your site, I think the GR11 would be a good choice for us. Where would you recommend we start and finish to get the most out of our trip? I suggest walking from Conangles to Puigcerda, which are both relatively accessible from Barcelona. You can join it at Tavascan and come back to the GR11 from the Juclar refuge. I am going to walk east to west in 30days for charity. Starting 25th June in Hendaye. I am concerned about the requirements for ice axe and crampons! I will be camping every night and want to keep weight down- must I carry them? Are there any resources to see how much snow fell this winter? Which route would you recommend to ensure completion? Many thanks in advance for your valuable insights! One of the best guides to the amount of snow is to look at the Pyrenees webcams listed on my other site. At present the webcam at Respomuso for example is showing a lot of snow: by the time you get there that long valley should be almost completely snow-free assuming you take the GR Especially as you will be carrying a tent etc. I prefer to go alone with my tent for privacy, but this time I am going with two of my friends. They are also in good shape. We want to begin in the middle of June, and we would like to go to the Pyrenees. I would like to ask you if you have any recommendations for our two weeks. Thanks, Kaz. By that time the hostels will be open. In any case you have plenty of options. You could walk a section of any of the three routes and use public transport or taxis to get back to your car — as you will see from this page on accommodation for walkers in the Pyrenees many of the hostels have car access. At that date you might need to go around some of the higher passes between the points marked on this page on snow on the GR10, GR11 and HRP. On the other hand you may be lucky and find that the snow has disappeared — it is difficult to be certain at this stage. Alternatively you might like to combine the routes using cross-frontier paths. Brian Johnson has just brought out a new Cicerone guide to Short Treks in the Pyrenees which should be very useful to you. I am looking to do a 3 or 4-day hike in the pyrenees in the second half of September. I already did a section of the GR11 a few years back Sallent de Gallego — Parzan , with the Picos del Infierno as one of the most fond memories I have of that hike. Now I would like to spend a few days in the mountains with my girlfriend. We would come in by car, walk 3 or 4 sections, drop out and take a bus back to our starting point. So some accesibility is key. But I would definetly be looking for a similar experience to the one I had a few years back solitude, stunning views, high peaks and camping. What options would you recommend? Thanks a lot! Hi Joren Getting a bus back could be the difficulty because you would have to go well out of the Pyrenees down a valley and then back up again. One option would be the Caros de Foc which is circular — and magnificent, and well served by busses at the extremities. Otherwise consider one of these combining these cross-frontier walks. Have fun. Hi, my friend and me are planning to hike a bit of Pyrenees. We will arrive to Toulouse and we plan to leave from Andorra. My friend is experienced but that can not be sad about me, bud we are in a good shape. We plan to hike for days in late August. Do you have any recommendation for us? We would prefer not to carry tent and not to spend very much on accommodation. Maybe some refuge huts? If you decide on Tarascon you will need to take a bus up the Vicdessos valley and then walk up to the GR10 at Goulier or Siguer. There is a cheap hut in Siguer. After that there are free huts at Courtal Marty and Clarens. You would then stay in the Rulhe hostel and walk over to Andorra via the lacs de Fontargente, to the Juclar hostel, or indeed to the free hut at Cabana Sorda. Hi, thank you so much for this. Is there a difference between GR11 and GR10 in terms of water availability? I am planning to start hiking at the end of August. We have about 10 days of pure Walking. We want to wild camp. What section of the GR10 do you recommend. We would love to see forest, lakes and rough mountains. I gnerall: beautiful and diverse nature. I know this i very subjective but maybe you can give us an inspiration. My propositions will depend on your experience of high mountains above m and trekking with a tent more than 3 days. Also, when are you thinking of going? Hi Steve. My main question is: What will the weather be like generally in October? Thanks Dave. Hi Dave See my page on snow reports for the Pyrenees and comments. It has already snowed — yesterday — but melted. So you are likely to encounter snow showers towards the end of your trip. As long as you are prepared for 0 degrees first thing in the morning you will be OK assuming you are staying in hostels. Follow me on Twitter enmarchant for snow updates. Get back to me if you have any more questions, though I will be away until Monday. My friend and I loved the Northern section of the GR It was a good level of difficulty not too hard but unbelievably beautiful and with occasional swimming spots. Which route would you recommend for beauty, moderate-hard difficulty, swimming spots and a section that could be done in days or so? Happy planning. How is it possible to book a bed for so long time? Could you recommend an itinerary from Merens to Bunyols with a rough idea of time. I am pretty fit and and experienced mountain walker. Hi Joe, The classic is the GR10, 9 days, see my other site pyreneanway. If needed, we can stretch it from monday late afternoon until friday early evening. Levels of experience range from beginner to slightly more experience, but no experts by any means in terms of GR trails. Hi Stino A good walk for you could be the ruta de las Golondrinas , particularly now that the refugio de Belagua will be reopening on 15 August. It can be done in 3, 4 or 5 days, your choice. Have fun, Steve. It would be for a party of 2, one fairly experienced walking in the mountains eg. We are young and in good shape so we would be able to power through some miles. We prefer sleeping in our tent or an unmanned shelter. We would like the start walking the 22nd July this year but are a bit spooked by the numerous thunderstorms forecasted. We looked into the HRP and the Senda De Camille, with the former looking a bit too difficult and the latter maybe a bit too easy and not adventurous enough. Recap: Looking for a route that should be accessible without extra gear. Mountainous stages are no problem if the walking pads are not too technical. Accessibility by train or bus would be a plus. Hi Matthias The Senda de Camille is a good hike. When I did it I stayed in the hostels but I noticed that there were free extremely basic huts about half way between most of the hostels that I could have stayed in. They have an overlapping section between Bordes de Graus and Certascan. You can certainly get to St Girons on public transport. After that it will be more difficult and you will need to research options. But the vast majority happen after 16h So get up early — easy if you have a tent or are in a hut — and set off before 7h That way you will get a good days walking in and arrive at your destination by 16h Time for a siesta! Maybe you can help us: A friend and I would like to spend days on GR 10 in the 1st or 2nd week of September. We are in our early 30s, in good condition, have already done several multi-day treks and are equipped accordingly. We want to camp wild and will therefore have heavy backpacks with which we cannot do difficult climbing passages. But we love wild nature and our focus is on deserted landscapes, less people and a varied flora and fauna. We are looking forward to your recommendation! Hi Jannick The wildest bits are in the centre, but that means that if you want to do a linear walk it is more difficult to get back to the start. You could do Banyuls to Mariailles, for example and then cut down to Villefranche and catch a train back. However, I would recommend using one of the cross-frontier routes for a circular walk. Let me know if you need any more info. Weather-wise, is it feasible to take the GR10 route starting 1 Nov. Thanks for any advice! Hi Thomas see this page on the walking season in the Pyrenees. Hi Steve, Thank you so much for this great article! Which segments would you recommend? We are open for anything. We would like to stay in huts, but if needed we can bring a tent. The main thing is that we would love to see some of the amazing nature and have a great experience doing km of the route. There should be an option to go back to the starting point by public transport to pick up our car afterwards. Hi Anke There is no public transport along the length of the Pyrenees, you would have to go down and back up, taking up to a day. Better to do a circular walk. Otherwise see my page on circular treks between France and Spain. Great site. And even a few high trail sections. Hi Steve See this page. I hiked the colorado trail last summer and found that the guthook online guide was immensely helpful for staying on the trail using my phone in airplane mode. I also did some summit hikes around Cauterets a few summers ago and we kept getting lost until we found a gps-based guide I am 62 in case you think I am a phone addicted teenager! Do you use similar resources and if so is there one you would recommend? I am concerned that not all gps guides follow the same path. Thanks for your help and your priceless comparison of the 3 routes. This is why there are so many versions online, including mine, linked above. Before any trip I download several versions and compare them. My principal resource is Wikiloc though VisoRando is also useful, as are many other sites. When I was walking the HRP I took a rechargeable battery so that I could recharge my phone from it, giving me 7 days independence in airplane mode. Have fun! I still dream of doing the whole thing in two years time. From my previous experience I am surprised you say you can do it without a tent; anyway I like the odd night in the wild between luxury. More importantly is food really available all the way along. I want to travel light. Thanks, Henry. Hi Henry I did the GR10 with only one night in a tent and with better planning that could have been avoided. I stayed in refuges, hotels, unstaffed huts. There are hundreds of free basic huts in the Pyrenees , including in wild places, including some not on the pyrenees-refuges site. You will need to plan carefully. If you decide to go for unstaffed huts and find a zone where you think there are no possibilities, let me know. If you want to know where I stayed in detail, there is always my book! At first Thank you so much for sharing your experience and espacialy hosting this website for so much years and answering even questions twice, which you actually answered in your main thread already. Hi Pete When you stay in hostels, the evening meal, bed, breakfast will cost around 45 euros in France. A picnic lunch will be around 8 euros on top, if you want one not value for money usually. If you are wild camping and buying your own food including meat and dairy, you will need to budget around 20 euros unless you want to skimp. This assumes you are cooking all your own stuff. A basic restaurant meal will cost 18 euros in France, 14 in Spain. I hope this helps. Also, as a newby to big mountain walks, I thought maybe to start I could do Henday to St Jean Pied de Port as a fairly short trip, but wanted to get your views on how lovely this section is and how challenging? I want a challenge as I am fit but not too arduous as I want to enjoy it too. Any advice appreciated. However the map you requested contains no more detail than the one on the site already, which you can print. The countryside is pretty and green rather than mountainous and rugged. How arduous you make it depends on how far you walk in a day. Ok so that section is a good starter session for going on to do the more arduous sections then? Can I then readily get public transport back to Hendaye after the walk s? Perhaps the best resources are available on Facebook, with many groups dedicated to the backpacking on the three route. Best wishes Steve. Amazing read! Hi Zhao The route is here. And here is the first of the pages I wrote about the HRP. Refuges will cost around 60 euros including food, hotels 80 euros. Guess I will pack a tent instead haha. Thanks for the route and guide though! I am planning a 7 day trip to the pyrenees in beginning of may. I am flying in from Barcelona and as I am reliant on public transport, I came across Pugcierda as a starting point. However after reading through your blog, I am uncertain if the weather will permit hiking the GR 11 in either direction from Pugcierda…do you know if there are any routes a little bit lower without heavy snow in that region, which might be a nice alternative to the GR 11 of weather conditions are still snowy? I am prepared to bring a tent and food for a week. Thank you for any kind of help! It may be Ok. If it is too cold because of snow, it is going to be pretty rough for camping. Consider the GR15, though this is harder to get to. Or cross frontier routes at the eastern end so you can loop back. Happy planning, Steve. Great article and comparison, thanks for all the details! What areas do you recommend for a two weeks hike? In your opinion, does the area in the Parc National de Pyrenees stand out? How is it in general for camping? Is it easy to find good spots near water, not to exposed to wind, etc? Good luck. Hi Steve, Thankyou for such a good resource! I have a week off the last week of May, I am planning about 7 days of walking in the Pyrennes. I like to wild camp. My original plan was to leave Hendaye and walk the HRP then after about 6 days exit towards public transport. Then return in the future and do the next section of HRP. Lescun is too far from Hendaye, can you think of any exit point? Also I came across Senda De Camille browsing your site and that sounds very good. Do you think it will be passable late May? I would have a tent so it would not be an issue if the mountain huts are closed. Any thoughts on my plans or even an alternative? Hi Tony I see the problem. Either continue longer or double back on the other side for a couple of days. Remember the HRP is an idea, not a fixed route. As for the Senda de Camille, check the webcams. What is the earliest I can safely start the gr 10, or West to east in the new season. I will use crampons and ice pick. Hi Pant If you are experienced with crampons and an ice pick you could start in April. BUT you need to know how to read the landscape and avalanche conditions. April and May are the worst months for avalanches. And also to plan for alternatives for the highest passes. Happy planning for Hi Steve, thanks for your great website. May I ask for your advice? We would love to do a day trekking at the end of July and bring our tent and stove. Could you recommend an initiary? We arrive by car, so a circular-trekking would be great or a route with access to public transport to return to the car. Years ago we hiked from Hendaye to Bielsa. So somewhere in the eastern part of the French or Spanish Pyrenees would be great. Thanks in advance! Hi Mink, try these routes. Some are circular, others can be combined. Thank you very much for all the information! I would like to go hiking in the Pyrenees with a friend in August. What can you recommend? We would like to camp a lot and also have experience with multi-day tours in the mountains. Thank you very much! Hi Anke See my reply to Mink. If you are coming from the French side see this. From Spain or Catalonia there are many options but you may need a taxi for the last bit. Hi steve, I was wondering if it is possible if the gr10 is well signposted from banyuls to hendaye or that i really only need to use a card. I am not strong on card reading yet. I can find little information on this. I think i like to walk from O to W starting next week around begin of august. But if this is not possible i will start from W. Kind regards, Carmen. Hi Carmen You can walk the GR10 in either direction. There are a few signposts but waymarks are more frequent. Most of the guidebooks assume W to E and if you walk that way you will make friends whom you will see again. Walking E-W you will meet just as many people but never see them again. If you are not good on maps, download a map to your phone. That way, you will always be able to see where you are exactly. But you still need to learn how to read GPS maps. Hi Steve, thanks for your answer. Zo if i undertstand right there are waymarks in either directions? And yes i mean maps???? Hi Steve, WOW, what a great website! We could only book a visa appointment in time to enter via Spain so will fly into Barcelona. We would prefer not to have the stress of looking for paths or getting lost. We are very fit trail runners and given that we have a terribly weak currency we need to do this on the cheapest budget possible avoiding expensive transport routes and accommodation — we will carry our tent to sleeping in and most food although will put some budget aside for some meals in huts! We would prefer to experience some of the higher passes as we love majestic views, lakes and high places but also appreciate the grassy green meadows and looking up at high places! I am quite overwhelmed by the sheer number of options — we need to be able to access transport to and from barcelona to both or one if circular trail heads. I would LOVE some route suggestions from you please! Thanking you in advance, Sarah. There are also a number of circular walks such as the Senda de Camille to consider. See also my page on Pyrenees cross-border walks. We love exposure, high level ridges and some scrambling but nothing too challenging with multi day bags , as well as all the lakes and the beauty the mountain range has to offer. Hi Nika Try the Senda de Camille, but staying in the huts. Or the Porta del Cel which is wilder. We are coming from the US west coast to do the GR10 this summer. If I read your comment on walking season with respect to snow and high passes, 8 June would not be an unreasonable start date unless the snowpack is above average this year. Do I need to book accommodation on the GR Hi Mark Best to book as little as possible now. As long as there is only one of you, you should get away with booking 3 days ahead. However for around 14 July and 15 August it would be a good idea to book now. Your email address will not be published. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Aragon Subordan. Ibon Tebarray. Anglios hut. Baiau hut. As the crow flies the distance from the Atlantic to the Mediterranean is around km. For walkers it is about twice that. There are in all, plus a few subsidiary ones. There is little difference between the weather on either side of the central ridge. The Spanish Pyrenees are not dryer just because they are in Spain! After all, the average distance separating the northernmost and southernmost routes is only 15km the maximum is 30km. What you get depends more on the direction of the wind. One day the foehn may shroud Spain in cloud, leaving France gloriously sunny. The next day the inverse. Misty morning in the Basque country. On the other hand there is a significant difference between the west humid , the higher middle colder and the east dryer and hotter. From mid-June to mid-September, the main trekking months, the days tend to start out cool and damp at dawn with the temperature rising steeply until about 16h00 when the rain often starts, sometimes accompanied by thunder and lightning. On average there are more soulanes south-facing slopes on the southern side of the mountains. But the Pyrenees are so convoluted that the effect is only important locally, near the high passes. At the beginning of the walking season the south- and east-facing slopes will be the first to shed their snow. Even on the HRP, even on difficult days, I met local walkers who considered the area their playground. I saw farm animals at some time absolutely every day , even on the HRP. The Pyrenees are not as wild as I thought before I started walking them. How long are the walks? But you might as well ask how long is a piece of string. The numerous guidebooks all have different figures for the length of the treks. In any case, the HRP is not a trajectory, more a concept and everybody I met was hiking a different route. The GR 10 and GR 11 also have variants. The average walker will only progress a seemingly pathetic 16—20km a day. The outside toilet pictured at the Maupas hostel has no door giving occupants a vertiginous view to contemplate. This may come as a surprise to those who have read Pyrenees guide books and blogs, but there is no need to carry a tent on any of the Pyrenees crossings. I almost always arrived at my destination before 16h See Pyrenees Refuges et Cabanes for free huts available to walkers. I never had a problem with free huts being full, unlike staffed hostels. Of course, camping reduces costs and brings with it that special experience of being alone at night in the mountains, but I like to walk ultra-light. Mont Rouch on the Pyrenean Haute Route, a free hut with beds for 9. The heights are snowed up until early summer, so the walking season for thru-hikers without crampons is determined by the first high passes. Dates given below are a guide to what you might expect in an average year but check with nearest hostels for an update Respomuso has a webcam. Nearest hostel: Respomuso earliest date without crampons 28 June In the approach to the Collado de la Facha was still covered in snow on 16 July and I used crampons, though others passing later in the day did without. Coll de Nou Creus m, Day 9 from E. Nearest hostel: Ulldeter earliest date without crampons 21 June though crampons could be useful between the Soula and Renclusa hostels all summer. This is what I liked about the HRP. The HRP in all its variants has no specific waymarks although it often coincides with other routes making navigation easier. To my mind the GR10 is the easiest of the three paths, despite the amount of climbing and the length, largely because it has existed longer and the creases have been ironed out. There is a cable to help but it is badly positioned. On the GR11 many of the higher passages are bestrewn with irregular boulders requiring care. I had to use crampons many times in after a severe winter, though looking back this may have been better than boulder-hopping. The HRP is the most technical route, with lots of boulder-hopping and several awkward or vertiginous passages. But one pass stands out from the rest. The bad reputation of the Gourgs Blancs glacier is unfounded: it no longer exists, though the subsequent descent from the pass and the boulders before the Portillon hostel are very trying. All three routes are similar at both ends; but in the middle the HRP and GR 11, being higher, are more frequently above the tree-line and more rugged. The HRP visits more stupendously beautiful lakes than its rivals. At m it could be cold. The GR11 often spends the night at a hotel in a village whilst the other two hikes favour isolated hostels. Whichever path is chosen, you will see marmottes, isards and vultures. No bears. Above m the landscape is predominantly bare rock, so for animals, flowers, and birds the GR10 is probably best. Previous Post Pyrenean Haute Route Days 14—19 Somport to Gavarnie. You need to tell me more. Hi Steve, Myself and a friend are hoping to do 4 days of fast packing along one of these routes. Keep warm! Many thanks, Peter. Hi Steve, A truly fantastic resource and insight! Hi Stephen Go west from Andorra. Elena, Anna and Maria. Hi Steve, Thank you for this useful information. Looking forward to hear from you, Best regards, Eke from the Netherlands. Thank you, Scott. Hi Scott I suggest walking from Conangles to Puigcerda, which are both relatively accessible from Barcelona. Hi Steve, Thanks for the awesome info. Dear Steve, I hope you are well. Love your site! I would be delighted if you could help me out a little. Thank you very much for hepl. Hey, my grilfriend and I want to hike a part of the G Hello Alex My propositions will depend on your experience of high mountains above m and trekking with a tent more than 3 days. Hi Steve, Could you recommend an itinerary from Merens to Bunyols with a rough idea of time. I am pretty fit and and experienced mountain walker Thanks, Joe. Hi Steve, Great website you have! Very useful, thanks for sharing! Looking forward to any recommendations! Best regards, Stino. I know those are a lot of demands, but we hope you could help us find the perfect fit! Best regards, Matthias. Hi Steve, a great report! If you think that GR 11 is much more suitable for our project, please tell us! Many thanks and greetings Jannik. Thanks in forecast! Any advice appreciated cheers, Mike. Hi Steve, What a resource of information and inspiration. Oh, that was the perfect illustration! Thank you. Now it is easier to make a customer tour. Hi Steve, Amazing read! Thank you, Zhao. Hello Steve thank you very much for your detailed description. Hi Steve, Great article and comparison, thanks for all the details! Hello Steve What is the earliest I can safely start the gr 10, or Mid April? Mid may? Thanks for all the valuable info Regards Pant. Do you have a route you can suggest? Thanks so much, Nika. Leave a Reply Cancel reply Your email address will not be published.
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