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Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen. Note: This feature may not be available in some browsers. Snow Cams. Active Threads Search forums. Log in. Active threads. Search Everywhere Threads This forum This thread. Search titles only. Search Advanced search…. Everywhere Threads This forum This thread. Search Advanced…. Members Registered members Current visitors. Toggle sidebar. Install the app. There's more to this forum than meets the eye! Join today. Register to remove the ad below Join today. Forum Ski Travel Japan. JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly. You should upgrade or use an alternative browser. Resource Japan Snow Country Realestate to Thread starter Scoober Start date Aug 17, Register to view full-size images Join today. Scoober One of Us. Ski Pass. May 12, 2, Gosford. I find it hard to get any Real Estate websites for buying property. Is it because they are in Japanese and don't show up on google? Any insightful directions? Yes off topic I know Nov 14, 1, 3, Hakuba. Scoober said:. Click to expand Lucky Pete said:. Besides Hakuba, Niseko and maybe one or two other places, agents sites are in Japanese and there is no unified website like realestate. You will need to search in Japanese and for each specific area. My advice is if you dont plan to live in Japan dont buy here and use the money to travel to different places each year. Owning a place will definitely tie you to one location when there are so many places to go see and shred in Japan. If you do buy a place here and plan to rent it out whilst you arent here property managers wont be interested unless they can market from Mid Dec to Early March so there goes being here in prime time. Managing it yourself from a distance is difficult we just set up a business to help Absent Owners and unless you set up a business you will be stuck on tourism visas if you plan to be here an extended time. No visa also means you cant buy a car, get utilities, bank accounts etc although you can buy property insurance. Getting Japanese tradies is also a whole other issues that some of us do well with whilst others dont and you defintely want to be here to manage their work or appoint someone to supervise which we are doing now too. Apologies for raining on your parade but having seen many with the same dream and flounder its further mentioning the above. Reactions: Lucky Pete. Ramenman A Local Ski Pass. Mar 3, 7, 10, Jul 1, 2, 2, The Foothills. A kind offer, indeed. Reactions: Scoober. Jun 2, 7, 4, myokoskiresort. Reactions: hotsaki , Scoober and hatto. Ramenman said:. Question A : What kind of real estate are you looking for? Then, you tell me which of 5 you like the most, which helps me to understand what kind of real estate you are actually interested in and I'll show you 5 other real estates which are similar to the one you choose previously. I think I should not gain a profit from this forum, so, what I wrote above is all I can do for you or any other people on this forum. Reactions: Ramenman. Unless you have a Japanese speaking contact who can organise everything for you, most importantly snow clearing, along with a bottomless pit of money to dig into as needed. Like Lucky Pete I've encountered far too many people with rose coloured glasses about how it all works. Nozawaman A Local. We have Japanese friends in Tokyo that may be able to organise as long as its just speaking over the phone. Not sure about a bottomless pit, but I won't be jumping in until I know what I'm in for and well off enough to be able to spend xxx a year to maintain. I've worked far to hard to get where I am to throw it away. With advice from this forum and speaking with my friends in Japan will all help make a decision, something I will not rush into. Jan 1, 10, 8, B Would be on Honshu. We were meant to be staying with skichanger in Madarao this January to try out the area. It seems a good area with lots of variety within decent driving distance. We also have friends in Tokyo who could join us but don't have a car. Far from ruling out other areas though. Nozawaman said:. It's ok to say you have 'friends' in Tokyo that can help , but the reality of it is that it's not going to be cursory phone calls to translate. If and when actual reno's start that's when the fun begins!!!!! WRT running as a business , well unless you are experienced , and or are a people person with a quick learning curve you are kidding yourself it is a 10 week season at best. Reactions: Tanuki , susie , piolet and 3 others. If you get to Japan this winter we can talk and I can introduce you to some people etc. In the mean time I will send you some stuff. Reactions: skichanger. Its looking soo unlikely atm Always next year Reactions: snowgum , Froff Life and Scoober. Hey Ramenman , Thanks its a very kind offer. We are a year or two away yet to be financially set to buy and up-keep a property but am keen to start looking at locations and what prices to expect. A Primarily looking for a house. Would be mostly private use but as Lucky Pete mentioned would be best set up for business use also. Would need 3 bedrooms as we were mad and had 4 kids!! Not sure on price range as mentioned above the older the place the more it takes to get right and up to scratch. All help is greatly appreciated. Jan 1, 78, 50, 1, Melbourne Australia, often in Austin Texas. This 27 year old lodge at the base of Mt. It's been used as a business use lodge small one with 5 guest rooms and 1 owner's room. The owner says that you can see all of Mt. Madarao, Mt. Myoko and Mt. Kurohime from the lodge. Judging from the pictures, the condition is not bad and I think you won't need a big renovation. Reactions: piolet , skichanger , Scoober and 1 other person. Sandy said:. I'd be reluctant to buy at Kurohime. It's less popular, which also means that it's more vulnerable in the future to closing. Also, Kurohime is not really between Madarao and Myoko, it's about 5km due south of Myoko Suginohara. Tangram is about 10km east of Myoko Kogen station. Reactions: cold wombat and skichanger. Asama One of Us Ski Pass. Jan 29, 1, NW Gunma, Japan m asl. Could even go something smaller as our family of 6 get along so we don't need too much space. Reactions: piolet , dr80 , Hanz Onyawaif and 5 others. Asama said:. At resorts themselves the properties available tend to be commercial properties rather than family houses, hence the large number of rooms. Lots of rooms and still deep in snow country about 20km from Madarao and 6km from Nozawa onsen as the crow flies. Doing it up to modern standards would probably need to be a labour of love. This place is on the very cheap end of the scale for whatever reason but gives you a sense of rural property prices away from the resorts! There are a lot of such old cheap and some of them are charming too houses in ski resort inaka villages and I love seeing some people buy them at cheaper than 3 - 5 million Yen and nicely renovate it to be reborn as an inn of a great mix of old charm and modernism. Reactions: Tanuki , susie , piolet and 7 others. There's a German architect called Karl Bengs who has taken this to the next level in Niigata. One of his projects is a hamlet called Taketokoro Tokamachi that has come back from the brink of disappearance with beautifully restored houses. Thanks Asama , she looks like a lot of work!! But again appreciate seeing all thats on offer. Reactions: dr80 , mc , Ramenman and 1 other person. Hi Sandy , Sorry for hijacking the Tourism thread. If you could move all the posts here that would be awesome. Do you have a link for this. I think I know where it is but not sure. Other questions are Question C: 15 - 20 min drive to the nearest ski resort is too far? Question D: You want your lodge to be always covered with deep snow in winter?. We own a lodge at m asl in Aizu region. Last edited: Aug 23, Reactions: Angelique , cold wombat , fennekeg and 2 others. Hyst Untenshu - kangoshi Ski Pass. Nov 23, 5, 5, Copenhagen. Reactions: cold wombat and Annabuzzy. The two houses below are near Madarao Kogen but not in Madarao Kogen 6. The owner bought a Japanese traditional house and renovated it 12 years ago. Reactions: fennekeg , Hyst , Annabuzzy and 1 other person. I believe that area is reliably snowy, even in the valleys. Scanning back to , Iiyama weather station m asl has almost always had a snowpack for all of January and gets over 1m most Februaries. This last winter a disaster as most everywhere else , late start , and snowpack disappeared mid-Feb are the only stand-out 'off' years. A snowy city for sure. Reactions: cold wombat and Asama. TJ One of Us. Aug 5, 3, 1, Hakuba, Japan. There are plenty of cheap places to purchase throughout Japan but if you want a roi then choose popular tourist areas for domestic and international visitors. They are also usually more foreigner friendly. Things to consider are how much it can snow and where the snow falls on your property and where can you put it. Also if you are located in a forest area the jungle will take over and you can have issues with bugs and mould if no one is looking after it in the warmer months. Taxes and rates can be expensive for concrete buildings. Anything built prior to will have old earthquake building regulations. Reactions: cold wombat and hatto. TJ said:. C You can't own a car without a residency visa and renting a car long term is not easy. D Yes. Why you need a local contact. Sorry to sound like a negative nellie but rather you'd know fully what you're getting yourself into. Reactions: hatto. You need someone on the spot, especially for snow clearing. And how are you going to pay your bills if you don't have a business visa? If you only have a tourist visa you can't get a car, a bank account, a phone, etc. Here is something you may have already seen but the middle paragraphs are important. Snow clearing is a 'relatively' smaller issue when it comes to Tohoku, especially Northern Tohoku. I mean, I've seen quite many 'unused' lodges there and nobody was clearing snow of those unused lodges. There are two reasons, I think. This is a lodge at the base of Appi Kogen that we were interested in buying. Last edited: Aug 19, Jun 2, 1, 1, Couple of things from my experience. Snow clearing is never ending and has to be done. If you cant do it yourself it will cost you plenty You cant own a car, you must have a car space if you hire one You can't have a bank account so bill paying is hard Rates, water, elec, sewer etc, the tariffs are higher if a business Tourist visa only good for 90 days then you must leave and re enter. Permanent visa is difficult skichanger may be able to shed some light You need someone to help out when not there to look after things. Never new i had so many friends The powder is incredible The Japanese are such fantastic people The food unreal Was it a good choice- absolutely Would i do it again - in a heartbeat Would i sell it - not a chance Goodtimes with family - priceless Having friends enjoy it with me - special. Reactions: cold wombat and Scoober. This 23 year old lodge is at the base of Tangram ski resort inside Tangram ski resort lodge village. The lodge had been used till last year. LMB Old but definitely not Crusty! May 6, 42, 58, 1, Perth. Have never regretted for a second buying a place in Japan. But we went the easy option. A condo apartment in Hirafu looked after by a management company. Good luck! Reactions: piolet , Lucas , mannyk and 3 others. Reactions: piolet and Scoober. Reactions: Hanz Onyawaif and fennekeg. The lodge below is not in Madarao region, but in northern Tohoku, though. It's close to Morioka city the capital city of Iwate Precture as well. The local city clear the snow on the road and it's for free. Reactions: Marfed , JayJee , susie and 4 others. You must log in or register to reply here. Similar threads. Question Has anyone ever renovated a property in Japan? Replies Views 6, Sep 2, skifree. Fuzzynz Apr 5, Japan. Replies 15 Views 2, Apr 8, Fuzzynz. Getting on with the neighbours and other challenges In Japan. BobGnarly Oct 4, Japan 2 3. Replies Views 9, Share: Share Link. Log in Your name or email address. Password Forgot your password? Stay logged in. Top Bottom Back.

Ha Long Bay, Vietnam | Visiting the Floating Vung Vieng Village and Pearl Farm

Buying snow Ha Long

Follow my blog with Bloglovin. The morning of day three of our cruise with Indochina Junk in Ha Long Bay started with another relaxed breakfast surrounded by the magical limestone karsts and the warm sun shining brightly onto the calm green blue sea. While enjoying the peaceful seascape sliding by, we were all too conscious that we only had a few hours left on our wooden Indochina Junk, before we would return to Ha Long City and move on to other destinations within Vietnam. However we had been very lucky to spend the last two days with lovely people and children that had made our cruise even more enjoyable and a stimulating part of the overall travel experience. Over the previous nights dinner we had discussed the possibility of honouring the impeccable service of our crew by leaving them a tip. We decided to not give our guide a larger sum as we felt he was most possibly on a higher salary in the first place and also felt that he probably had one of the easiest jobs on board. The cook worked the hardest spending hours, upon hours preparing food for us, from early morning to late evening. Tipping is not a common or expected custom in Vietnam but we were sure that the crew would appreciate the gesture. It was planned to hand the tips over during lunch before we would arrive back in Ha Long Port. The kids would have loved to go for another kayak or swimming session that morning but our tight schedule meant we had to sail straight to our visit at Ving Vieng fishing and pearl farm village. There were a large number of boats anchored just outside the protected bay of the pearl farm and floating fisher village than we had seen on our whole journey, confirming that the closer you are to Ha Long City the higher the density of tourists. Our tender boat dropped us off at the entrance to Ving Vieng Village. There we could see the buildings of the pearl farm and a school for the children of the fishing community. After the Vietnamese government had decided to stop the fisher families living on their boats and in caves they set up villages in protected area in Ha Long Bay with floating huts. The pearl farm also provided additional income and job opportunities for those not wanting to live the nomadic life of a fisherman anymore. Our guide had explained that we were to row through the village and then visit the pearl farm before returning to our boat. Each rowing boat took a family or two couples out on the tour of the floating fishing village. We were curious where the village was hidden, as we could not see a single house when we set out. The boat gently glided though the bay, the huge limestone cliffs towering above us like a sheer wall. Jerome wondered if they would row the visitors through the village all day long, it must be a physically challenging job to row the boat through the bay for hours on end. We could see the boat in front turn to the right and soon after our boat followed. There we got a first glimpse of the floating houses of Ving Vieng Village in the bowl of the bay. Fishermen have lived in the area for hundreds of years, thanks to the well protected location, enclosed by the towering rocks that almost entirely surround the village and therefore even the strongest typhoons cause limited damage to the boats and dwellings. On our approach to the floating huts we saw some dogs run around excitedly it had surprised us to find so many of them living with the fishermen, even on the tiny boats, rather than cats to keep the mice and rats away. They must not only be there to provide the lonely fishermen with company, but most likely are a guardian to the huts and boats while the men and women are away. Jerome also noticed the floating cages, a place for small fishes to grow to a sellable size. The families farm the smaller fish to get more cash when they grow, but do not breed them, replacing those sold with more small by catch. Our guide had informed us that Ving Vieng Village is home to 35 families. Some of the floating houses were locked up, others were open and we got a glimpse of the interior. They were rather small by western standards but considering that these families used to live on boats, the huts were probably a huge improvement to their daily living accommodation. Electricity seemed to be supplied by solar cells on the roofs and possibly generators. The fishermen still lead a hard life. They generally need to be out fishing for about 12 hours every day. The trip to Ha Long City, where they can sell their catch at the market takes about 3 hours one way in a small boat and even longer in bad weather. A daily earning of about 12USD is the norm of which 1USD goes for fresh drinking water plus petrol, and part of the income needs to be saved for health care and medicine in case a family member is sick. Their main diet consists of rice and fish plus the occasional vegetables. The tour through the Ving Vieng Village showed Jerome a different side to life, one less luxurious and more confined to space and work than his. I think he was also quite shocked to see the families living on the cramped boats, with barely anything that he would call essential possessions. Taking in the scenes around us we gently glided through Ving Vieng Village. Far ahead we could make out an arch in the limestone karst that looked barely high enough for a boat to get through. Once we got closer we could see some of the others boats rowing underneath, waiting for us to join them. The arch connects the village area to the outside world. From there we could see the large tanker and container ships in the harbor across Ha Long Bay, loaded with coal and other goods before starting their journeys across the globe. One thing that had shocked us during our entire time on the cruise, was the sheer amount of rubbish and litter in the sea and along the rocky shores, while we felt that our cruise company took good care of the environmental impact, including taking care of litter and avoiding too much additional washing, we noticed that our guide through Vung Vieng Village constantly fished out any debris from the sea. Vietnam in general has a rubbish problem and whilst the government is trying to educate and change the culture sadly many places still dump their rubbish in the corners of fields or by the roads, from there it easily is blown into the sea. Finishing our circular tour, we arrived at the pearl farm. A lady already expected us at the pearl farm and started to share her knowledge on the different varieties of oysters and their pearls. The oysters originate in Japan, the South Pacific and Tahiti and the different varieties create pearls in white, rose and grey hues. The pearls then need a further years or even longer before they have reached their final size and shape. We were led into a room where we were able to watch a man open the oysters and retrieving a white pearl. What an incredible wonder nature creates inside the oyster shells. The lady explained that only a very small amount of the pearls are actually sold for jewelry, they require them to be perfect without any deformations or damages, whereas many are actually more oval or deformed. I was rather disappointed to hear this as I had wanted to buy some deformed ones and have them made into earrings. The disregarded pearls are sold on to companies that use them in paste for cosmetics and skincare. In the next room we found a large display of pearl jewelry, they obviously expected us to buy earrings, rings or even necklaces, either for ourselves or as gifts and souvenirs. There were some loose pearls on offer, included a few deformed ones and when I asked I was quite shocked by the price. They wanted 90 USD for them, which I consider a rip off rather than a fair price. I would have happily paid a bit more but this was way too expensive, I remember on our trip to Ishigaki-jima in Japan, the prices were similar if not lower, but that was Japan and about ten years ago… We all left without buying anything, so I think everyone felt the same. In some ways it was a shame, as we would happily support the effort of the village but they clearly were trying to exploit their captive tourist audience. Back on the boat we packed our suitcases ready to be collected by the cabin boys. Then everyone met up in the dining room, it felt weird to eat our lunch inside, but the crew thought it was too hot to have lunch on the outer deck. Our guide came to say goodbye, plus the captain thanked us for our stay on board in Vietnamese, which we all found quite amusing. We handed over the tips for everyone. They actually had set up a gratuity box on the bar for the crew and one separate envelope for the guide. The mood over lunch was somewhat subdued, as we were all sad to leave the boat behind, wishing we could cruise this magical part of Vietnam for longer. Soon enough it was time for us to get back onto the tender and return to Ha Long harbor. We said farewell to our fellow guests in the waiting lounge and were driven back to Hanoi by minibus. This time we stopped at a different rest stop, but it was selling similar items and marble sculptures to the ones on the way out. These rest stops were perhaps our only criticism of what was otherwise an fantastic tour. As our onward journey was by overnight sleeper train we asked to be dropped around the corner from Hanoi station. We went for an early dinner at restaurant Quan An Ngon for some Vietnamese food. I had read that it was advisable to eat proper food or buy food to take with you before taking the overnight train. The friendly Japanese couple that shared a table with us started a conversation and Jerome somehow managed to charm them enough to get some Japanese sweets from them. He was keen to take them on the train. Once we had paid we set off with our luggage to the train station in Hanoi , located two blocks from the restaurant. We were excited about our overnight train journey, a first for Jerome, not knowing what to expect from a soft sleeper berth on a Vietnamese train. You can read all about our train journey to Hue in the following post. Need help with finding the right cruise for you, read my in-depth guide on how to find the best cruise for you here. Just looking into a Ha Long Bay two night trip as I type — my first thought was tovreread some of your posts! Such beautiful photos and dreamy landscape… the pearl extraction process must have been fascinating for you guys. I have greatly enjoyed reading about your trip to Halong Bay. I am always amazed at how comfortable the dogs are moving around and between the floating houses. Thanks for sharing! This totally brought back memories of our visit to Ha Long Bay years ago! Those views were just lovely! I am glad it brought back happy memories. It truly is a special place, we hope to be able to return one day…. Subscribe now to keep reading and get access to the full archive. Type your email…. Continue reading. Like this: Like Loading Pingback: Family Travel Blog. Leave a Reply Cancel reply. We only recommend destinations we have discovered and enjoyed. As an affiliate of Booking. Discover more from wanderlustplusone Subscribe now to keep reading and get access to the full archive. Type your email… Subscribe. Loading Comments Email Required Name Required Website.

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